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Bailey

Bailey

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THE TEAM FOR PLYMOUTH HAS CHANGED SINCE MY LAST POST!

 

We are now set to start with the following . . .

 

----------------------- Davis ----------------------

 

James ------- Lancashire ------- Cork ------- Skacel

 

--------------- Gillett ----- Surman ----------------

 

Smith --------------- Lallana ------------- Holmes

 

------------------- Robertson ---------------------

 

It's not the first time the team has changed last minute and probably won't be the last.

 

Poortvliet has decided to rest a few people and it's good to see McGoldrick has been taken out of the firing line.

 

Still unsure as to why Pearce isn't involved. Maybe we aren't extending his loan deal?

 

Still, here's hoping for 3 points!

Gully

Gully

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Surely Perry is a guarantee in the back line, preferably with Cork, in front of Davis that would be a good central three. Skacel at left back fo' shizzle and then I guess there is no choice but James at right back. Alternatively move Cork out right and play Pierce in the centre.

 

Glad to see that neither Euell or Lallana is playing right midfield as they are useless there.

 

Glad he might drop fat mac.

Burnsie

Burnsie

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  Saint Fan CaM said:
We will lose with that team - Saga up front we might have stood a slim chance, but now...well...the circus plays on as we watch the club die...

 

Saga's on loan to Aalborg mate

BotleySaint

BotleySaint

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That doesn't look too bad. I'm worried about Lancashire as he's not up to the job most of the time. Thee attacking midfielders is a worry. Robertson is one dimensional rubbish. But, I guess there isn't many other options! Just have to get behind them. We should have pace at least.

benjii

benjii

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  BotleySaint said:
That doesn't look too bad. I'm worried about Lancashire as he's not up to the job most of the time. Thee attacking midfielders is a worry. Robertson is one dimensional rubbish. But, I guess there isn't many other options! Just have to get behind them. We should have pace at least.

 

Smith is very fast indeed.

L1Minus10

L1Minus10

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5 out of that 11 are not good enough for the CCC.

 

They are Lancashire, James, Gillett, Robertson and Smith.

 

If, in any team sport, you have 5 out of 11 players who are not good enough, then you will lose.

team-saint

team-saint

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apart from the back which is too inexperienced i think that team will do better than what jan is likely to put out, it at least gives us a balanced midfield with 2 wingers and robertson is better than mcgoldrick

Hopkins

Hopkins

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If Robertson starts ahead of McGoldrick then were ****ed. McGoldrick is our top goal scorer, he may not be everyones favourite player but dropping your top goal scorer, who ever you are, is absurd.

 

Other than that, I'm happy enough. Gillet has been bought in top combat the phsyical side of Plymouth as despite him being a dwarf he's likely to put his foot in. That is the only reason I can think of that Roberston is starting, because he's likely to be a bit more phsyical than McGoldrick. Shame he is guff.

Hopkins

Hopkins

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Because the people who watch him think that because he's not Brett Ormerod and doesnt run round like a headless chicken that he is ****. I'm pretty certain that you ask anybody who watched him while he was playing in the reserves a few years ago, that they will tell you he's never been one that looks like giving a ****. Infact, random and slightly sad but I remember a post on this board a while ago after a reserve game saying something like "McGoldrick was **** today, we slagged him off all game, didn't look interested, couldnt be arsed at all, but to be fair he scored twice."

 

Don't all top strikers say something along the lines of "The best bit of movement you can do as a striker is no movement at all. Standing still is just as useful" I certainly don't see players like RVN running there socks off. (He's alot better than McGoldrick and has alot better service, before anyone says "but RVN scores McGoldrick doesn't".)

 

Also quite sad but I remember Beattie saying something about teaching our young strikers like Blackstock, McGoldrick and Best that chasing stuff down just gets you into posistions out wide where you cant score from. As I said earlier, Ormerod did that, and he scored like 4 times or something silly for us. When you play one up front, which is our best option because we have no other strikers worth playing, you dont want that centre forward whipping in crosses to nobody after he's just ran his arse off to get the ball off the left back.

 

The kid does not look like he gives a ****. Yes he's been **** the last few games, he couldn't finish his breakfast against Forest, but he's our top goal scorer. He won us the game at Preston with a fine solo goal. I dont remember Stern John ever looking like he could give a toss but he scored goals. McGoldrick will score goals more than anyone else in our squad at the moment. Saga, when he gets back is about the only striker worth challenging him for a place in the team. Untill then, the kids been better than any other striker in our squad. Yes he's been inconsistent, but he's a kid, unless he's Rooney he's going to be **** but i'd rather him in the team than anyone else in our squad, quite simply because not one of the other strikers is doing ANYTHING worth shouting about.

 

At least he's getting chances to miss, which is something I do not remember Robertson or Paterson ever having when they have played, and if someone says "They haven't been given a chance to play regulary like McGoldrick has." Then that is ******** also because Robertson has and Paterson cant even get ahead of him in the reserve side.

 

BWP is a much better winger before anyone says anything about starting him upfront on his own and as for the mug who said play Skacel up front, well done clever clogs, play the only half decent player capable of playing left back who we were all crying out for to come back in at left back at the start of the season upfront on his own, when despite rumours saying otherwise he's never actually played there.

 

I can't reply anymore because of the shocking 3 post rule.

SFC Forever

SFC Forever

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James has taken a lot of stick this season and some early doors was merited. He has been caught out of position and goals have been scored. WOW.

In my book this is a team game and he is expected to run up and down the flank by our highly esteemed manager(?) If so where has the cover been on these foraging expeditions. He is a kid who recently has shown signs of improvement. If the bone idle players in front of him were doing their job correctly he would either have someone to pass to or someone to cover his runs.

Being a natural midfield player why not play him in front of Cork. I think he could do a much better job of covering than the present holders of right midfield. Plus he does sometimes give us a good cross for the forwards to attack.

Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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  Le Goddard said:
James is a very good RIGHT MIDFIELDER

 

not a very good right back.

 

How would you know, he's never played at RM.

Amazed that Perry and BWP are not starting to be honest.

I can actually see the potential in Lancashire. I'm happy to keep playing him as i'm sure he will come good. Same said for Smith, I think he will win a few people around.

harvey

harvey

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  Hopkins said:
Because the people who watch him think that because he's not Brett Ormerod and doesnt run round like a headless chicken that he is ****. I'm pretty certain that you ask anybody who watched him while he was playing in the reserves a few years ago, that they will tell you he's never been one that looks like giving a ****. Infact, random and slightly sad but I remember a post on this board a while ago after a reserve game saying something like "McGoldrick was **** today, we slagged him off all game, didn't look interested, couldnt be arsed at all, but to be fair he scored twice."

 

Don't all top strikers say something along the lines of "The best bit of movement you can do as a striker is no movement at all. Standing still is just as useful" I certainly don't see players like RVN running there socks off. (He's alot better than McGoldrick and has alot better service, before anyone says "but RVN scores McGoldrick doesn't".)

 

Also quite sad but I remember Beattie saying something about teaching our young strikers like Blackstock, McGoldrick and Best that chasing stuff down just gets you into posistions out wide where you cant score from. As I said earlier, Ormerod did that, and he scored like 4 times or something silly for us. When you play one up front, which is our best option because we have no other strikers worth playing, you dont want that centre forward whipping in crosses to nobody after he's just ran his arse off to get the ball off the left back.

 

The kid does not look like he gives a ****. Yes he's been **** the last few games, he couldn't finish his breakfast against Forest, but he's our top goal scorer. He won us the game at Preston with a fine solo goal. I dont remember Stern John ever looking like he could give a toss but he scored goals. McGoldrick will score goals more than anyone else in our squad at the moment. Saga, when he gets back is about the only striker worth challenging him for a place in the team. Untill then, the kids been better than any other striker in our squad. Yes he's been inconsistent, but he's a kid, unless he's Rooney he's going to be **** but i'd rather him in the team than anyone else in our squad, quite simply because not one of the other strikers is doing ANYTHING worth shouting about.

 

At least he's getting chances to miss, which is something I do not remember Robertson or Paterson ever having when they have played, and if someone says "They haven't been given a chance to play regulary like McGoldrick has." Then that is ******** also because Robertson has and Paterson cant even get ahead of him in the reserve side.

 

BWP is a much better winger before anyone says anything about starting him upfront on his own and as for the mug who said play Skacel up front, well done clever clogs, play the only half decent player capable of playing left back who we were all crying out for to come back in at left back at the start of the season upfront on his own, when despite rumours saying otherwise he's never actually played there.

 

I can't reply anymore because of the shocking 3 post rule.

 

It's my birthday today and I've had a few drinks, so forgive me if I've got the wrong end of the stick, but do you honestly believe what you have written ???????

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rocknrollman no2

rocknrollman no2

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  Hopkins said:
Because the people who watch him think that because he's not Brett Ormerod and doesnt run round like a headless chicken that he is ****. I'm pretty certain that you ask anybody who watched him while he was playing in the reserves a few years ago, that they will tell you he's never been one that looks like giving a ****. Infact, random and slightly sad but I remember a post on this board a while ago after a reserve game saying something like "McGoldrick was **** today, we slagged him off all game, didn't look interested, couldnt be arsed at all, but to be fair he scored twice."

 

Don't all top strikers say something along the lines of "The best bit of movement you can do as a striker is no movement at all. Standing still is just as useful" I certainly don't see players like RVN running there socks off. (He's alot better than McGoldrick and has alot better service, before anyone says "but RVN scores McGoldrick doesn't".)

 

Also quite sad but I remember Beattie saying something about teaching our young strikers like Blackstock, McGoldrick and Best that chasing stuff down just gets you into posistions out wide where you cant score from. As I said earlier, Ormerod did that, and he scored like 4 times or something silly for us. When you play one up front, which is our best option because we have no other strikers worth playing, you dont want that centre forward whipping in crosses to nobody after he's just ran his arse off to get the ball off the left back.

 

The kid does not look like he gives a ****. Yes he's been **** the last few games, he couldn't finish his breakfast against Forest, but he's our top goal scorer. He won us the game at Preston with a fine solo goal. I dont remember Stern John ever looking like he could give a toss but he scored goals. McGoldrick will score goals more than anyone else in our squad at the moment. Saga, when he gets back is about the only striker worth challenging him for a place in the team. Untill then, the kids been better than any other striker in our squad. Yes he's been inconsistent, but he's a kid, unless he's Rooney he's going to be **** but i'd rather him in the team than anyone else in our squad, quite simply because not one of the other strikers is doing ANYTHING worth shouting about.

 

At least he's getting chances to miss, which is something I do not remember Robertson or Paterson ever having when they have played, and if someone says "They haven't been given a chance to play regulary like McGoldrick has." Then that is ******** also because Robertson has and Paterson cant even get ahead of him in the reserve side.

 

BWP is a much better winger before anyone says anything about starting him upfront on his own and as for the mug who said play Skacel up front, well done clever clogs, play the only half decent player capable of playing left back who we were all crying out for to come back in at left back at the start of the season upfront on his own, when despite rumours saying otherwise he's never actually played there.

 

I can't reply anymore because of the shocking 3 post rule.

 

Please stop listening to radio Hampshire and actually start attending games.

McGoldrick should never be in the team EVER.

Jonnyboy

Jonnyboy

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  Saint Fan CaM said:
We will lose with that team - Saga up front we might have stood a slim chance, but now...well...the circus plays on as we watch the club die...

 

oh yeah , with his two goals last season

Chez

Chez

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  Le Goddard said:
James is a very good RIGHT MIDFIELDER

 

not a very good right back.

 

very good right midfielder? What makes you think that, a couple of decent crosses from fullback?

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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  adriansfc said:
Certain to lose etc., club dying blah blah. Grow up. It's largely the same team you all said couldn't beat Reading. Maybe we will lose, maybe we'll beat Reading, who knows, but you lot will no doubt predict loss doom and eternal woe forever more regardless. It's just that sunny Southampton disposition.

how is it a dispostion when we are on the verge ofthe bottom 3..and our recent form is shyte..

 

predicting a loss is pretty sane if you were a betting man...

Andy_Porter

Andy_Porter

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That team isn't too bad, glad we've tried to change it around though. We've been dire since Reading with quite a settled side. If we're going to win then I think Gillett will be crucial, none of the other midfielders are going to tackle or put their foot in and that's going to be crucial against Plymouth.

 

COYR.

OldNick

OldNick

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what a nonsense team. If that is what we are starting with then expect a hammering.

Jan its time to go.Perry and BWP Euell should be in the team

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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  nickh said:
what a nonsense team. If that is what we are starting with then expect a hammering.

Jan its time to go.Perry and BWP Euell should be in the team

indeed

 

BWP has scored our last few important goals and is out of the team as it stands..

 

WTF....

Andy_Porter

Andy_Porter

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  Thedelldays said:
indeed

 

BWP has scored our last few important goals and is out of the team as it stands..

 

WTF....

 

Indeed, we lack goal scorers and leave BWP on the bench. If we're going to persist with 4-5-1 then i'd play Holmes and BWP out wide, BWP is at least a goal threat and can cause problems for defenders.

 

He's not the best player in our squad but on current form he should be in the 11.

teamsaint

teamsaint

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Just looking at our squads and team sheets makes for depressing reading I'm afraid.

 

That said, we do have a "best 11 that would be at least competitive.

 

Its

 

KD

Cork

perry

Pearce

Skacel

Spider

Surman

Gillett

lallana

Robbo/Mcg/Bwp

Holmes

 

I'm not BWPs biggest fan, but on form he's worth having around.

Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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  Andy_Porter said:
Indeed, we lack goal scorers and leave BWP on the bench. If we're going to persist with 4-5-1 then i'd play Holmes and BWP out wide, BWP is at least a goal threat and can cause problems for defenders.

 

He's not the best player in our squad but on current form he should be in the 11.

He's our only goal threat.

captainchris

captainchris

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  Hopkins said:
If Robertson starts ahead of McGoldrick then were ****ed. McGoldrick is our top goal scorer, he may not be everyones favourite player but dropping your top goal scorer, who ever you are, is absurd.

 

Other than that, I'm happy enough. Gillet has been bought in top combat the phsyical side of Plymouth as despite him being a dwarf he's likely to put his foot in. That is the only reason I can think of that Roberston is starting, because he's likely to be a bit more phsyical than McGoldrick. Shame he is guff.

 

Unless we have actually coached Robertson in how to play and put Llana next to him literally it is a waste of time! We must play the same we did at Reading with the two up front VERY CLOSE TOGETHER. Has portvliet not worked this out YET. I'm tired of his inability to recognise what works, how and why!....................

captainchris

captainchris

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  Andy_Porter said:
Indeed, we lack goal scorers and leave BWP on the bench. If we're going to persist with 4-5-1 then i'd play Holmes and BWP out wide, BWP is at least a goal threat and can cause problems for defenders.

 

He's not the best player in our squad but on current form he should be in the 11.

 

BWP is the only player we have who makes runs in the box - pure and simple. Portvliet continues to tell us what is wrong and is by and large not too far adrift but continues to do absolutely nothing about it in terms of coaching this to the players.................

NickG

NickG

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would be interested to see Euell playing behind BWP.

 

Euell with bit of presence to get knock downs etc and BWP with more pace and looking more likely in one on ones

derry

derry

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  Bailey said:
THE TEAM FOR PLYMOUTH HAS CHANGED SINCE MY LAST POST!

 

We are now set to start with the following . . .

 

----------------------- Davis ----------------------

 

James ------- Lancashire ------- Cork ------- Skacel

 

--------------- Gillett ----- Surman ----------------

 

Smith --------------- Lallana ------------- Holmes

 

------------------- Robertson ---------------------

 

It's not the first time the team has changed last minute and probably won't be the last.

 

Poortvliet has decided to rest a few people and it's good to see McGoldrick has been taken out of the firing line.

 

Still unsure as to why Pearce isn't involved. Maybe we aren't extending his loan deal?

 

Still, here's hoping for 3 points!

 

Nearly. Gillett Gobern midfield Surman behind McGoldrick.

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