Turkish Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 They are now out in force Either way, no dealt with badly. Cringeworthy isn't it What worries me is that people are voting for the bloke that is less of a c*nt. what a way for this country to elect it's leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Bless plaid Cyrmu. She practices what she preaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Really??? Was this from the Guardian or something?telegraph ..tracker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Cringeworthy isn't it What worries me is that people are voting for the bloke that is less of a c*nt. what a way for this country to elect it's leaders. It's the only choice really. I wish we had someone worth voting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Well the debate part is over. My view. Best down to worst Clegg Dave Sturgeon Nigel Milliband Bennett The Welsh one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Surgeon's closing speech was a Nick Clegg 2010 tribute act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Has this 'debate' changed anybody's voting plans ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Great shot by Cameron. Milliband saying he'll legislate against 0 hours contracts, then Dave pointing out that 70 labour MPs use them to employ their staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Cleggy wants another spin with Dave then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 People on here all moaning about lack of honesty and humility, and at the same time judging the leaders on their appearance and mannerisms. They can't really win. Try listening to the policies instead of the style. agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Well the debate part is over. My view. Best down to worst Clegg Dave Sturgeon Nigel Milliband Bennett The Welsh one I agree with that. Maybe have Bennett at the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Cleggy wants another spin with Dave then He's got to get re-elected yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 It's the only choice really. I wish we had someone worth voting for. As I've said for months, Labour are unelectable,Miliband is a joke. UKIP and Farage only get any air time because everyone is so dissatisfied with the others and don't even get me stated on clegg! Cameron and the Tories are the only credible choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 I agree with that. Maybe have Bennett at the bottom. Yep I would put Wood higher to just for that punch on Ed's nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Cameron and the Tories are the only credible choice. They are not credible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Source? Telegraph again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 They are not credible. Okay - the only not completely uncredible option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Just how the f**k did labour do that well? Are they f**king simple? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Just how the f**k did labour do that well? Are they f**king simple? It's a nonsense surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Great shot by Cameron. Milliband saying he'll legislate against 0 hours contracts, then Dave pointing out that 70 labour MPs use them to employ their staff. http://labourlist.org/2015/04/are-labour-mps-really-hiring-people-on-zero-hours-contracts/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 It's a nonsense surely? No, it's an opinion poll, and is as reliable as any of the statistics quoted over the last 2 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 It's a nonsense surely? Farage answers that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Just how the f**k did labour do that well? Are they f**king simple? no it is just a simple fact that Mickey mouse could stand for labour and Donald duck could stand for the Tories and they would still get 30% of the vote each Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 you gov snap poll STURGEON - 28% FARAGE - 20% CAMERON - 18% MILIBAND - 15% CLEGG - 10% BENNETT - 5% WOOD - 4% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 As a Green Party member i'm a bit disappointed in Natalie Bennett's performance tonight tbh, she isn't a particularly confident orator and I think that she missed out quite a lot in debates that the Greens actually have a strong stance on - especially the EU and the fact that the Greens support a referendum so that people don't have to vote UKIP or Tory to get a choice on membership. Sturgeon absolutely smashed it though, very impressed with her. The rise of the SNP in Scotland has definitely been helped by having 2 engaging, confident and warm leaders in Sturgeon & Salmond - they seem like proper politicians as opposed to Cameron & Miliband who seem like 2 animatronic puppets repeatedly bashing each other over the head. Will be interesting to see the reaction to the debate and how it affects the election. Think SNP will clean up over Scotland now, which means that Labour will be in trouble of losing more ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Think the only winners there were the minor parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 http://labourlist.org/2015/04/are-labour-mps-really-hiring-people-on-zero-hours-contracts/ apparently 0 hours contracts is not the same as casual contracts. How? In both cases there is no guaranteed income. maybe if I hire all my staff on casual contracts that would be ok in EDs eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Bless plaid Cyrmu. She practices what she preaches. What's that then, just being Welsh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 no it is just a simple fact that Mickey mouse could stand for labour and Donald duck could stand for the Tories and they would still get 30% of the vote each At least both parties would have charismatic and believable leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 ICM poll #leadersdebateMiliband 25%Cameron 24%Farage 19%Sturgeon 17%Clegg 9%Bennett 3%Wood 2% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 At least both parties would have charismatic and believable leaders. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 The whole thing was a butter embaresent; from Red Ed's pleas to camera, Nige's gurning, Dave's stuttering smarm and Cleggy's fence sitting. **** knows why the others were there to be honest as the Welsh lady said **** all of any use, the Greens were tosh and despite the SNP giving good copy no one can vote for them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 As a Green Party member i'm a bit disappointed in Natalie Bennett's performance tonight tbh, she isn't a particularly confident orator and I think that she missed out quite a lot in debates that the Greens actually have a strong stance on - especially the EU and the fact that the Greens support a referendum so that people don't have to vote UKIP or Tory to get a choice on membership. Sturgeon absolutely smashed it though, very impressed with her. The rise of the SNP in Scotland has definitely been helped by having 2 engaging, confident and warm leaders in Sturgeon & Salmond - they seem like proper politicians as opposed to Cameron & Miliband who seem like 2 animatronic puppets repeatedly bashing each other over the head. Will be interesting to see the reaction to the debate and how it affects the election. Think SNP will clean up over Scotland now, which means that Labour will be in trouble of losing more ground. She's a train wreck. I'm surprised they don't still have caroline lucas in charge, she was much more errudite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 She's a train wreck. I'm surprised they don't still have caroline lucas in charge, she was much more errudite. She wanted to devote more time to her kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 As a Green Party member i'm a bit disappointed in Natalie Bennett's performance tonight tbh, she isn't a particularly confident orator and I think that she missed out quite a lot in debates that the Greens actually have a strong stance on - especially the EU and the fact that the Greens support a referendum so that people don't have to vote UKIP or Tory to get a choice on membership. Sturgeon absolutely smashed it though, very impressed with her. The rise of the SNP in Scotland has definitely been helped by having 2 engaging, confident and warm leaders in Sturgeon & Salmond - they seem like proper politicians as opposed to Cameron & Miliband who seem like 2 animatronic puppets repeatedly bashing each other over the head. Will be interesting to see the reaction to the debate and how it affects the election. Think SNP will clean up over Scotland now, which means that Labour will be in trouble of losing more ground. Being a member of the Green Party is as much use as being member of you grandads workings me club young mikey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Just how the f**k did labour do that well? Are they f**king simple? Yes. They vote on tradition not on reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Interesting discussion regarding the 'NHS tourism' and response from the Welsh bint and Nicola Sturgeon both claiming 'moral high ground' and trying to shame Farage's comments. Still at least its one problem sorted, any HIV positives from overseas needing treatment can be sent off to Glasgow, Edinburgh,or Aberystwyth for treatment. Wonder if Sturgeon will be so humanitarian in her outlook if this eats into Scotland's own funding of the NHS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 The whole thing was a butter embaresent; from Red Ed's pleas to camera, Nige's gurning, Dave's stuttering smarm and Cleggy's fence sitting. **** knows why the others were there to be honest as the Welsh lady said **** all of any use, the Greens were tosh and despite the SNP giving good copy no one can vote for them! At least the Welsh bird had the balls to admit the truth about us not being able to control immigration whilst in the EU. That at least was refreshing compared to the usual bullsh!t from Cameron, Miliband and Clegg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Interesting discussion regarding the 'NHS tourism' and response from the Welsh bint and Nicola Sturgeon both claiming 'moral high ground' and trying to shame Farage's comments. Still at least its one problem sorted, any HIV positives from overseas needing treatment can be sent off to Glasgow, Edinburgh,or Aberystwyth for treatment. Wonder if Sturgeon will be so humanitarian in her outlook if this eats into Scotland's own funding of the NHS. I can see Nigel's point but it wasn't really the time nor the place to bring it up. When you have 30 seconds to get a point across, you can't say something Potentially explosive like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 This thread is amusing. Folk just cannot understand how much the tories are disliked. Ed is a muppet but the fact the Cameron is going to fail to win an election, again, sums up the public's mistrust of him and his party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 The whole thing was a butter embaresent; from Red Ed's pleas to camera, Nige's gurning, Dave's stuttering smarm and Cleggy's fence sitting. **** knows why the others were there to be honest as the Welsh lady said **** all of any use, the Greens were tosh and despite the SNP giving good copy no one can vote for them! A butter what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 hung parliment again and nigel comes across has a one trick pony ,which appeals to a lot of disaffected people but slogans and hate cannot run a government /and we would be in uproar if a german,spanish,french politician talked that way about a British hiv sufferers who use there health services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Being a member of the Green Party is as much use as being member of you grandads workings me club young mikey Didn't anyone ever tell you not to mix wine & beer Turks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 This thread is amusing. Folk just cannot understand how much the tories are disliked. Ed is a muppet but the fact the Cameron is going to fail to win an election, again, sums up the public's mistrust of him and his party. They will do roughly the same as labour which suggests that they are disliked a similar amount. Tbh both of them are total rubbish and if I could come for someone else to ensure that we had a different party running things then I would. Simple fact is that the choice is labour or Tory and I don't trust ed on the economy nor do I want him as the figurehead of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 I can see Nigel's point but it wasn't really the time nor the place to bring it up. When you have 30 seconds to get a point across, you can't say something Potentially explosive like that. Tip of the iceberg. Showed the true face of UKIP, walking daily mail/express headlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 hung parliment again and nigel comes across has a one trick pony ,which appeals to a lot of disaffected people but slogans and hate cannot run a government /and we would be in uproar if a german,spanish,french politician talked that way about a British hiv sufferers who use there health services. Your clear bias against ukip is obvious. I didn't like that comment but Nigel still did better than a lot of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 hung parliment again and nigel comes across has a one trick pony ,which appeals to a lot of disaffected people but slogans and hate cannot run a government /and we would be in uproar if a german,spanish,french politician talked that way about a British hiv sufferers who use there health services. It was a more than fair point. Why tread on eggshells around issues like health tourism? It costs us a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 Interesting discussion regarding the 'NHS tourism' and response from the Welsh bint and Nicola Sturgeon both claiming 'moral high ground' and trying to shame Farage's comments. Still at least its one problem sorted, any HIV positives from overseas needing treatment can be sent off to Glasgow, Edinburgh,or Aberystwyth for treatment. Wonder if Sturgeon will be so humanitarian in her outlook if this eats into Scotland's own funding of the NHS. Using that kind of language to talk about people with that horrible disease illustrates the stigma in society that surrounds HIV patients. If the Scottish parliament did take in all the HIV+ patients that Farage et al want to get rid of, I would be delighted as it would show that at least somewhere they are thought of as people with a disease rather than a figure. For f*ck sake, they're people too - I imagine if it was you or a family member in a foreign-born HIV patients position you'd be pretty angry about being refused care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 2 April, 2015 Share Posted 2 April, 2015 They will do roughly the same as labour which suggests that they are disliked a similar amount. Tbh both of them are total rubbish and if I could come for someone else to ensure that we had a different party running things then I would. Simple fact is that the choice is labour or Tory and I don't trust ed on the economy nor do I want him as the figurehead of the country. Ed is a muppet and the tories still won't win. If the other brother had been elected as he should have been this election would be over all ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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