CB Fry Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 The whole thing is a shapeless mess. Just annoying viewing. Clegg doing well and probably the right strategy for him to visibly attack Cameron. Farage and Sturgeon (who I cannot stand) doing okay. Milliband, meh. Cameron uncomfortable.
solentstars Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 think clegg,millaband and the green lady coming across well but not impressed with nigel has he normally comes across well but just repeats the same old nonsense slogans, cameron playing safe so far and looks like he would rather be elsewhere.
hypochondriac Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Gotta say Farage is winning this... Cameron and Clegg doing OK, but the rest!!!!! Agree with that. Welsh woman utterly pointless and greens need to change their leader. Milliband just looks stage managed.
hypochondriac Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 think clegg,millaband and the green lady coming across well but not impressed with nigel has he normally comes across well but just repeats just repeats the same old nonsense stuff, cameron playing safe so far and looks like he would rather be elsewhere. Total bias from yourself. I disagree with the lib dems and I'm not voting ukip but both coming across well and the best two so far.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Sturgeon is actually quite good isn't she?
solentstars Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Total bias from yourself. I disagree with the lib dems and I'm not voting ukip but both coming across well and the best two so far.bias on your part i would say but not everyone will have the same view as you and a different opinion and i want some thing more than slogans when i want to elect a government,
hypochondriac Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Sturgeon is actually quite good isn't she? Yeah not bad. Despite my loathing of her party, she is doing a good job.
Batman Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Sturgeon is actually quite good isn't she? she is alright. she is going to be part of the westminster elite soon....she has spent so much attacking it and winning support doing so
Hockey_saint Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Agree with that. Welsh woman utterly pointless and greens need to change their leader. Milliband just looks stage managed. Totally, I think Nige is walking away with this so far....Nice to see he's the only one with the balls to point out that the tories have borrowed far more than labour.....opportunity missed there Ed.....so much for deficit reduction.
solentstars Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 cameron came across well when talking about his kid there.
Joesaint Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Sturgeon is actually quite good isn't she? Don't agree
Hockey_saint Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Ahhh Cameron's brought up his disabled kid again.....didn't stop him trying to ruin disabled people's lives in the UK though did it with the removal of the independent living fund, the bedroom tax or the complete removal of a blanket 20% off disability benefits though did it?
solentstars Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 oh dear another slogan but plays to his core audience.
Batman Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 now turning into Milliband v Dave. you would think we live in a 3rd world country according to half of that panel
Hockey_saint Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 If you think him mentioning his disabled son who he claimed DLA for is a good thing, you don't know what he's doing to the lives of disabled people.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Ahhh Cameron's brought up his disabled kid again.....didn't stop him trying to ruin disabled people's lives in the UK though did it with the removal of the independent living fund, the bedroom tax or the complete removal of a blanket 20% off disability benefits though did it? Bedroom Tax is probably the stupidest thing ever.
solentstars Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 clegg comes across good on television and sturgeon is coming across well .
Hockey_saint Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Bedroom Tax is probably the stupidest thing ever. Yep and that was created by labour. But the Independent living fund; bringing in ATOS to judge this new version of DLA which has removed the mobility element and plans a huge cut is disgraceful also. It's like Clegg trying to get down with the students now.
solentstars Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Bedroom Tax is probably the stupidest thing ever.agree but so was the poll tax in the 1980s.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 agree but so was the poll tax in the 1980s. Yep, but we no longer have a poll tax!
bridge too far Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 If you think him mentioning his disabled son who he claimed DLA for is a good thing, you don't know what he's doing to the lives of disabled people. That's one crossed off my bingo list
Joesaint Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Fair enough! hard not to be a bit bias though, I'm trying to think about the content, and guess when I just do not agree, its hard to believe. But I am trying to be a neutral as well, so looking at someone who is not too manufactured ; and Farage seems to be the only honest person. I wont vote UKIP I don't think, as he definitely got a few who go a bit too far to the right in the party, but I do seem to agree with him quite a lot.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Yep and that was created by labour. But the Independent living fund; bringing in ATOS to judge this new version of DLA which has removed the mobility element and plans a huge cut is disgraceful also. It's like Clegg trying to get down with the students now. I don't know enough about what has happened with the new version of DLA but don't agree with ANY cuts to disability benefit.
bridge too far Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/04/02/nigel-farage-just-malfunc_n_6995270.html?1428002983
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 hard not to be a bit bias though, I'm trying to think about the content, and guess when I just do not agree, its hard to believe. But I am trying to be a neutral as well, so looking at someone who is not too manufactured ; and Farage seems to be the only honest person. I wont vote UKIP I don't think, as he definitely got a few who go a bit too far to the right in the party, but I do seem to agree with him quite a lot. He come across as honest. However, they have no idea on how to run the countr.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Anyone following Boris on Twitter? He really is entertaining.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Hmm. Misstep from nige there about hiv. That is a MASSIVE mistake.
hypochondriac Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 That is a MASSIVE mistake. He shouldn't have mentioned it. It was a point that didn't need making.
solentstars Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 no game changer so far so looks like a hung parliment and it was good to see the other party leaders but need a paxman to ask them questions.
bridge too far Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 I don't know enough about what has happened with the new version of DLA but don't agree with ANY cuts to disability benefit. One of the benefit cuts being considered by the Tories is Disability Living Allowance in that it will be considered for income tax.
solentstars Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 He shouldn't have mentioned it. It was a point that didn't need making.seems he just wants to blame everything on foreigners at every turn..very nasty politics .
Hockey_saint Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 I don't know enough about what has happened with the new version of DLA but don't agree with ANY cuts to disability benefit. It was one of the current government's first moves. I can say as a disabled person it feels like the current PR comes across as all disabled people being lumped with the jobless as feckless shirkers....Which isn't always the case. Let's just say, when disabled people chain themselves to railings outside the house of commons you understand maybe it isn't a good idea to try to identify with said group.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 One of the benefit cuts being considered by the Tories is Disability Living Allowance in that it will be considered for income tax. And that I do not like. I think it's very difficult, you're never going to agree with every policy a party puts forward, and for me it's cutting benefits any further.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 It was one of the current government's first moves. I can say as a disabled person it feels like the current PR comes across as all disabled people being lumped with the jobless as feckless shirkers....Which isn't always the case. Let's just say, when disabled people chain themselves to railings outside the house of commons you understand maybe it isn't a good idea to try to identify with said group. Doesn't sound a good idea!
JackFrost Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Ahhh Cameron's brought up his disabled kid again.....didn't stop him trying to ruin disabled people's lives in the UK though did it with the removal of the independent living fund, the bedroom tax or the complete removal of a blanket 20% off disability benefits though did it? The 'bedroom tax' is Labour's greatest propaganda success. 1) It's not a tax because it's not a levy on earnings. It's a reduction in a subsidy. 2) Ed Miliband voted for the introduction of the "Bedroom Tax" as part of the 2007 Welfare Reform Act. The Conservatives may have
hypochondriac Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Imagine Miliband in a room with Putin. F**k me. He is bloody awful. I can't stand how he turns to look at the camera every time.
solentstars Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Imagine Miliband in a room with Putin. F**k me.unlike cameron who will scare him s hit less lol:lol: lets face it putin only bothered by the us.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Cameron pre-empting the increase in immigration. Good play.
hypochondriac Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 unlike cameron who will scare him s hit less lol:lol: lets face it putin only bothered by the us. He's an irritating human and a bit of a nob but still miles more prime ministerial than ed. Totally agreed with dave on immigration there.
Colinjb Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 He is bloody awful. I can't stand how he turns to look at the camera every time. What the f*ck were labour doing putting him in charge, trying to throw the election? Do they have a long term plan that they are keeping to themselves? A strong opposition would have won this election by now.
hypochondriac Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Cameron pre-empting the increase in immigration. Good play. That was his best answer so far.
Jonnyboy Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Bennett is the only one presenting true left wing policies.
hypochondriac Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Farage was right there, we can't negotiate the free movement of people.
Hockey_saint Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 The 'bedroom tax' is Labour's greatest propaganda success. 1) It's not a tax because it's not a levy on earnings. It's a reduction in a subsidy. 2) Ed Miliband voted for the introduction of the "Bedroom Tax" as part of the 2007 Welfare Reform Act. The Conservatives may have I've already said that I am fully aware that it's a labour invention.
badgerx16 Posted 2 April, 2015 Posted 2 April, 2015 Pssst, want to know a secret ? They're all lying.
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