Saint Charlie Posted 27 October, 2014 Share Posted 27 October, 2014 http://m.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/11562411.Bertrand__I_want_to_stay_at_Saints/ Very good news, would be a great signing. Seems like a good character as well as a tidy left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 27 October, 2014 Share Posted 27 October, 2014 "'They've got really high expectations, the people behind the scenes, they really want to achieve great things and do it the right way" Hang on, didn't all the ambition go out the door with Cortese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 27 October, 2014 Share Posted 27 October, 2014 Well I can sleep a bit easier tonight ⚽️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 October, 2014 Share Posted 27 October, 2014 Well he wants to stay and we want to sign him. Get it sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 27 October, 2014 Share Posted 27 October, 2014 And get Tony signed up too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 27 October, 2014 Share Posted 27 October, 2014 get his chum corky signed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 27 October, 2014 Share Posted 27 October, 2014 Sounds more to me like he'll wait and see if we get into Europe. “I think it is one of them things where I’ve got to wait and see, Then goes on to talk about the good base to the club etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 27 October, 2014 Share Posted 27 October, 2014 Sounds more to me like he'll wait and see if we get into Europe. Then goes on to talk about the good base to the club etc. He goes on to say for him there is no reason why not, do doesn't really imply that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 October, 2014 Share Posted 27 October, 2014 Koeman said he'd like to sign him if the money is available. My guess is that he'll sign if the money is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 27 October, 2014 Share Posted 27 October, 2014 And get Tony signed up too. Tony Montana? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 28 October, 2014 Share Posted 28 October, 2014 Tony Montana? No. Tony Clifton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Posted 28 October, 2014 Share Posted 28 October, 2014 We don't need a bloody ostrich running around the place.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 28 October, 2014 Share Posted 28 October, 2014 Shows what a great place our club is for player development and inclusion. Bertrand should know, he's seen more clubs than most. Brilliant to see he wants to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 28 October, 2014 Share Posted 28 October, 2014 Sounds more to me like he'll wait and see if we get into Europe. Then goes on to talk about the good base to the club etc. IMO, that's not it. The option to buy at a fixed price is in place as part of the loan deal and although Bertrand could refuse an offer there is no advantage to Southampton in exercising the option early. If they did it would be Southampton who would then carry any risks such as loss of form or injury. If Ryan is still performing in May as well as he is now I'd expect the club to sign him based on Koeman's current comments, but things can change, for example if RB picked up an injury or suspension giving Targett a run in the side and if Target performed beyond expectations. As Bertrand said: You've got wait and see, but he's talking about an offer from the club, not whether he could go off and tout himself elsewhere, when he's actually got stability here after years of uncertainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 28 October, 2014 Share Posted 28 October, 2014 Jan Kluitenberg retweeted this yesterday: FCUpdate.nlVerified account @FCUpdate_nl Ryan Bertrand staat open voor een permanent verblijf bij het Southampton van Ronald Koeman: "Fantastische manager" http://www.fcupdate.nl/voetbalnieuws/265041/ … And also RE Toby - I think Alex Crook said last week that we've opened up discussions to sign him on a permanent basis in January already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmotorstone Posted 28 October, 2014 Share Posted 28 October, 2014 Team 2nd in the Premier League, best defensive record in Europe, playing week in week out - I bet he wants to stay! Sign him up I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldridge Posted 28 October, 2014 Share Posted 28 October, 2014 I can see Toby being much harder to secure permanently. His prospects at Atletico are much brighter than Bertrand's are at Chelsea. Wouldn't begrudge him not wanting to sign permanently I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 October, 2014 Share Posted 28 October, 2014 I can see Toby being much harder to secure permanently. His prospects at Atletico are much brighter than Bertrand's are at Chelsea. Wouldn't begrudge him not wanting to sign permanently I guess. Not sure about that. He's already 25 so not a young player trying to gain experience to force his way into the team. If Atlectico rated him they wouldnt have shipped him out on a full year loan. I can see lots of other PL teams being interested though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 28 October, 2014 Share Posted 28 October, 2014 Not sure about that. He's already 25 so not a young player trying to gain experience to force his way into the team. If Atlectico rated him they wouldnt have shipped him out on a full year loan. I can see lots of other PL teams being interested though. This - he's in the biggest shop window in world football right now! Would love him to sign, but I expect him to end up at Arsenal, Man U, Liverpool next summer - all of whom need a quality centre back and all of whom have more pulling power and financial muscle than us. Hopefully I'll be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 28 October, 2014 Share Posted 28 October, 2014 Have to say that my main concern at the moment is the future of our defence. There is no current concern, as it has been the bedrock of our excellent start, just a concern that it might be a bit temporary! Now given where we were May/June, then those at the Club have done well to get such a strong back 5/6, but I do wonder what the chances are of keeping hold of Bertrand & Toby, and to some extent Clyne. If Bertrand & Toby keep performing as they are, then think we might struggle to keep them despite having first dibs. And more solid performances from Clyne could also see the bigger clubs sniffing around. A decent placing in the League, some sweet talking from Koeman and a bit of luck might do the job, if not I fear we may have another rebuild next summer. Targett, Gardos, Stephens, a n others - I'm not sure, but given their success last year with regards succession planning, I imagine Les & Co are already on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 28 October, 2014 Share Posted 28 October, 2014 IMO, that's not it. The option to buy at a fixed price is in place as part of the loan deal and although Bertrand could refuse an offer there is no advantage to Southampton in exercising the option early. If they did it would be Southampton who would then carry any risks such as loss of form or injury. If we want him it makes sense to sign him permanently ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 28 October, 2014 Share Posted 28 October, 2014 Price is agreed, let;s do the deal. Everyone's a winner. Lovely jubbly. Sign Bertie, Toby Oldervirus; keep J-Rod and Morgan; tell Spurs we don;t want Kane or Townsend. Keep a place in the squad in case in AOC or Theo want to come home to SMS. Sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 29 October, 2014 Share Posted 29 October, 2014 Makes perfect sense for him. Would still be in a top league and so playing for a top team, and also gets a much better shot at first team football in the longer term here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 29 October, 2014 Share Posted 29 October, 2014 Potentially awkward situation for the club to manage - if reports are to be believed then in Matt Targett we have a player who is admired by bigger and better clubs than us and he hasn't committed his long term future to the club yet. The signing of Bertrand would put him firmly second in line to a starting berth at left-back, and he may be left with a decision - stay at Saints and be backup or join a bigger / better club that play more games where he may start, and earn far more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 29 October, 2014 Share Posted 29 October, 2014 Potentially awkward situation for the club to manage - if reports are to be believed then in Matt Targett we have a player who is admired by bigger and better clubs than us and he hasn't committed his long term future to the club yet. The signing of Bertrand would put him firmly second in line to a starting berth at left-back' date=' and he may be left with a decision - stay at Saints and be backup or join a bigger / better club that play more games where he may start, and earn far more.[/quote'] Didn't he only sign his first pro-deal last summer? He's a Saints fan, he knows he is in the best place possible to develop his talent, so personally, I don't think he will be doing a Chambers anytime soon. Not sure any of the top 6/7 clubs are in the market for a LB either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 29 October, 2014 Share Posted 29 October, 2014 I believe he signed a 4 or 5 year contract (Targett) last year so LLP's statement is incorrect. Add to that, if he is good enough he will get his chance: most successful clubs have cover in all positions and we are no different. Keeping them all happy is a different matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 29 October, 2014 Share Posted 29 October, 2014 He signed Pro terms in the summer of 2013. I'm not aware of how long it is for but 2-3 years seems the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 29 October, 2014 Author Share Posted 29 October, 2014 Sky reported in the summer that we were in talks with him about a 5 year deal to put off the clubs watching him, but as yet nothing signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 29 October, 2014 Share Posted 29 October, 2014 Am I the only one to read that article and think he doesn't really say what the headline does? “I think it is one of them things where I’ve got to wait and see,” he said. “For me, there’s no reason why not, to be honest. “There is a good base to the club – we’re pulling in the right direction, we have fantastic fans, fantastic players, a fantastic manager and the coaching staff. “It has been a good experience for me so far, so I don’t see why not.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 29 October, 2014 Share Posted 29 October, 2014 Yea sounds like he never had conceived of the idea of staying till the journo popped the question, and he had to be diplomatic. I hope he stays he's been excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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