Pochettino asks Levy to sign Jay Rodriguez

[Verbal Kint]

I can't believe there are people who genuinely want us to flog Rodriguez.

 

I don't get it either. He was fantastic last year and is improving. Only mental offers should be considered in January although our position has to change next summer if he won't sign a new deal

[ashleyb5443]

If we weren't 2nd you wouldn't be saying sell him. We've had a very easy start this year. Let's see how we're doing in jan.

[saintbob40]

Difficult one given the nature of the injury. It is by no means certain he will come back firing on all cylinders. I would be surprised if Spurs would take him without a run of games behind him meaning the January transfer window would likely come to too soon.

[Turkish]

I can't believe there are people who genuinely want us to flog Rodriguez.

 

I can unfortunately.

[Professor]

If the journo who wrote this story is an angler, he'd be proud of the bites he's getting. Ignore it.

[beavis17]

I don't buy it.

 

This article in the Telegraph from early October states that;

 

"At no stage was Rodriguez the subject of an offer and nor did he ask to be kept informed of any interest."

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/11140340/The-inside-story-of-Southamptons-brilliant-start-to-the-Premier-League-season-under-Ronald-Koeman.html

 

This despite a number of reports saying that Spurs had made a bid. I mean.......why would they buy a player who may not return at anywhere near his previous form. It makes no sense. Paper talk and speculation, re-hashing old stories.

 

Spurs bid £15m for him in the summer so it seems they don't have a clue...

[angelman]

If he goes, he goes. Comes down to whether you have faith in the board and manager to handle transfers properly. Now that Cortese is out of the picture (yes, I am blaming him for Osvaldo, Forren and to a lesser extent Ramirez), I wonder whether people think they can do a proper job!? (rhetorical)

[Gemmel]

Spurs bid £15m for him in the summer so it seems they don't have a clue...

 

No they didn't

[beavis17]

No they didn't

 

That's not what his agent told me...

[Gemmel]

That's not what his agent told me...

 

First off as already stated - You don't bid 15 million for a player with an ACL injury - You just don't (And based on insurance etc. Can't.

 

Les Reed confirmed we did not receive any bids (And of course we didn't - see above) for JRod. Given the bad press and situation at the time, Saints would have loved to come out publically and shout from the roof tops we turned a bid from spurs. We couldn't, because they didn't.

 

I suggest you speak to his agent again.... Whilst I am sure he would have loved spurs to make an offer (And hoped and prayed they would), it simply didn't happen.

 

Would you pay full list price for this, because that is exactly what JRod is right now

 

[farawaysaint]

That's not what his agent told me...

 

Ah yes, agents, those bastions of truth and righteousness. They are also known for releasing confidential details of negotiations to people off the street. Reporters I can understand to influence one party or the other but exactly why is he telling you these things?

[derry]

I'd like him to stay but the signs are not good. His house at Wellow is on the market and the contract is ignored. If he doesn't sign I'd let him go for the best fee possible as soon as possible and use the money to add to the squad.

[Saint Rees]

I'd like him to stay but the signs are not good. His house at Wellow is on the market and the contract is ignored. If he doesn't sign I'd let him go for the best fee possible as soon as possible and use the money to add to the squad.

 

Wasn't Schneiderlin already 'moving out of his flat' before Ralph and co demanded they were both staying?

[beavis17]

Ah yes, agents, those bastions of truth and righteousness. They are also known for releasing confidential details of negotiations to people off the street. Reporters I can understand to influence one party or the other but exactly why is he telling you these things?

 

Well you don't know what my job is, do you?

[farawaysaint]

Well you don't know what my job is, do you?

 

No, I don't. Hence asking why he told you.

[Alain Perrin]

Well you don't know what my job is, do you?

 

 

Sex worker?

[CB Saint]

Well you don't know what my job is, do you?

 

Bearsy's gimp?

[Bearsy]

Tokyo-Saint?

 

...

[beavis17]

Sex worker?

 

Bearsy's gimp?

 

Both of the above.

[buctootim]

Points to ponder:

1. Did he tell you that?

2. Was it true?

3. He's still here so does it matter?

[The Cat]

I'd like him to stay but the signs are not good. His house at Wellow is on the market and the contract is ignored. If he doesn't sign I'd let him go for the best fee possible as soon as possible and use the money to add to the squad.

 

He lives on the edge of Easton, near a friend of mine. His house has been on the market for ages and he's having a new one built near Romsey.

 

At least that was the situation the last time my friend spoke to him which was maybe a few months ago.

[beavis17]

Points to ponder:

1. Did he tell you that?

2. Was it true?

3. He's still here so does it matter?

 

I'm just passing on what I was told.

[Ohio Saint]

The sale, or otherwise of Jay is best left to the club without the opinions of us who have no clue of the situation.

 

He had a great spell for us, but his injury was serious enough to change him as a player. None of us can have a clue how he will pan out, but the club at least have the best knowledge available.

 

If he goes, I will assume it was a sound business decision. If he stays, I will cheer him on and hope he regains his potential.

[St_Tel49]

The sale, or otherwise of Jay is best left to the club without the opinions of us who have no clue of the situation.

 

He had a great spell for us, but his injury was serious enough to change him as a player. None of us can have a clue how he will pan out, but the club at least have the best knowledge available.

 

If he goes, I will assume it was a sound business decision. If he stays, I will cheer him on and hope he regains his potential.

This.

[Dark Munster]

I'm just passing on what I was told.

Fair enough. But either the agent or the club is telling porkies.

 

My money's on the agent.

[Viking Warrior]

what utter nonsense,

 

several spurs fans are not impressed with poochie, and are making their feelings known.

 

Jay Rod can see what is happening at Saints and will want to be part of our future

[SW5 SAINT]

I can't believe there are people who genuinely want us to flog Rodriguez.

 

Well if he won't sign a new contract…………...

[cellone]

Just a hypothetical one. Is Jay Rod that good? He's played well for 6 months since he's been here, just not sure whether the playing badly is the anomaly, or the playing well?

 

After a massive injury will he be the same? Just playing devils advocate here.

 

I don't remember him playing badly, he took a little time to find his feet. This could be a case of hasn't played for ages so I think he's better than he is though.

[Wiseone]

I'm sure we'll screw over whoever wants him in terms of transfer fee. We are much more equipped now if we do lose him. Perhaps he needs to take a look at the fate of others first though.

 

Totally agree

[Redslo]

I'd like him to stay but the signs are not good. His house at Wellow is on the market and the contract is ignored. If he doesn't sign I'd let him go for the best fee possible as soon as possible and use the money to add to the squad.

 

For Salary Cap and Financial Fair Play reasons it would make sense to sell Rodriguez and, if necessary, Clyne and Schneiderlin after July 1. It would have to be a tremendously good offer to be worth selling in January. This does not mean that I want to sell any of them--just that the sales would make more sense if they happened in the next fiscal year.

[saint77]

He lives on the edge of Easton, near a friend of mine. His house has been on the market for ages and he's having a new one built near Romsey.

 

At least that was the situation the last time my friend spoke to him which was maybe a few months ago.

His new house is nearly complete moving in late December and it's in romsey

[The Cat]

His new house is nearly complete moving in late December and it's in romsey

 

Hooray, I was vaguely ITK.

[S-Clarke]

Really not sure why anyone would want to join Spurs right now, they're a complete mess. In a very bad way in terms of a squad/balance.

 

If Jay tries to push for a move there (no evidence to suggest he will, though) then he needs his head seeing to. - same goes for Morgan.

[Gordon Mockles]

Ah yes, agents, those bastions of truth and righteousness. They are also known for releasing confidential details of negotiations to people off the street. Reporters I can understand to influence one party or the other but exactly why is he telling you these things?

 

How can you tell when an agent is lying?

 

His lips are moving.

 

;o)

[ART]

Interesting to see him reverting to a translator in a Telegraph interview.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/11192834/Mauricio-Pochettino-I-dont-regret-leaving-Southampton.html

[hutch]

I'm just passing on what I was told.

No you're not.

 

You're telling us that your information is 100% correct, and anybody that doesn't agree with you doesn't know what they're talking about.

[Plastic]

Tottenham manager Mauricio Pochettino says his Spurs players need to change their weak mentality to succeed in the Premier League

 

Oh dear, calling your players weak is not a great motivator in my book.

[angelman]

http://www.eyefootball.com/news/21134/Tottenham-Charlie-Austin.html

 

I can see this and think it might be more likely than JRod, due to the risk of the ACL. Didn't Austin have a serious injury with his knees hence why clubs were a bit wary on signing him? I see JRod, Austin, Ings being of a similar type, with JRod being the best (pre ACL) but of course I would!

[Wes Tender]

Rodriguez won't go to Spurs. He doesn't like small pitches and so wouldn't excel there.

[Leicestersaint]

Keep him - we need depth for next year's European campaign!

[Greenridge]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/tottenham-plot-20m-january-transfer-4531440

[Shanghai Saint]

Poch "asking for regular updates on the Southampton forward"!

 

Go **** yourself would the appropriate response.

[trousers]

Poch "asking for regular updates on the Southampton forward"!

 

Go **** yourself would the appropriate response.

Might help explain why the 'JRod recovery update' videos have seemingly dried up of late...?

[angelman]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2813509/Tottenham-eye-Jay-Rodriguez-Mauricio-Pochettino-plans-raid-old-club-Southampton.html

 

I would let him go after pulling down Spuds' pants and shafting them for huge bucks. While this tapping up is of course deniable as paper talk, it can work both ways. Given our somewhat more secure position than the vulnerable one we found ourselves in in the summer, we can play a lot harder. I like the figure of £20m that the Mirror quote. Fine by me. Hope JR's career is not blighted by this, but if he wants out, then I would let Spuds sweat and then bite their hand off. To me, it is nonsensical to spend that much on a player coming back from an ACL without him having much/any playing time under his belt. Wouldn't it be wiser to wait a season or at least half a season? Is this a sign of desperation? If it looks like he is going, then I would be tempted not to play him at all in case he does break down again.

 

I can see advantages of him going and him staying, so am easy on this one. If he does go, we do need a replacement, and although I can't see it happening, Kane would be acceptable.

[david in sweden]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/11191213/Mauricio-Pochettino-targets-Jay-Rodriguez-as-Tottenham-manager-battles-unrest-in-White-Hart-Lane-dressing-room.html

 

whether he goes or not......I'm surprised that the media still regard such a rumour as a forgone conclusion and that Jay Rod would want to move to "a big club " like Spuds, and that we would come with open arms to accept some measly offer for him........just because it's THEM.

 

The fact of the matter is that, aside from winning the League Cup in 2008 ......they haven't won a trophy since FA Cup (1990-91) and it's a surprise to me they've survived at the top end so long as Daniel Levy seems to change managers almost every season.

 

Of course if JayRod has this " longing " to join Pochettino mindset.... that may be a short-lived situation ....as MP may not survive the rest of the season.

 

To continue thinking of Spuds as a "Big Club " .....is like people thinking England are a world-class nation in international Football.... because we won the World Cup - once- 48 years ago .

[RobM]

Here's my take on this...

 

We need another goal scorer. Pelle will get injured / suspended / hit a poor run of form at some point and he's our main out-and-out striker. We need another. JRod scored a decent amount of goals last season and while there's no guarantee he'll do it again, there is no guarantee he won't. He may come back and be every bit as good as he was, then get better.

 

But we have proven recently that however good a player is, if they don't want to be here we can get a good sum of money for them and replace with equal or greater quality, getting a player who WANTS to play for us in the process.

 

If JRod doesn't want to be here and wants to leave so much he's willing to go to an unstable place like Spurs, who's managers will always be a few games away from the sack, then our focus should be on getting the best deal. In the meantime, we're hardly struggling.

[sadoldgit]

Oh dear, calling your players weak is not a great motivator in my book.

 

There is always an excuse with Poch. Poor referring. Small pitch. Weak mentality etc.

[Saint_Ash]

Getting JRod back in the team in January will be like the best January signing we can do in the window. Our players will start to get a bit knackered by then and, if fit, he can help keep us firing on all cylinders.

 

The only reason we should sell him is if it is for stupid money and Koeman gets to spend it how he likes but I'd personally want him to stay as we'd struggle to find a better player to sign in January.

[alpine_saint]

1. Why will J-Rod want to drop down the table ?

2. Pochettino will be long gone before the window opens

3. Levy will never offer enough if he thinks Morgan is worth 10m.

4. We wont deal with Spurs.

 

Will NEVER happen unless we know something about J-Rods knee that Spurs dont.

[S-Clarke]

1. Why will J-Rod want to drop down the table ?

2. Pochettino will be long gone before the window opens

3. Levy will never offer enough if he thinks Morgan is worth 10m.

4. We wont deal with Spurs.

 

Will NEVER happen unless we know something about J-Rods knee that Spurs dont.

 

I think you're right. If anything, Morgan will look at the summer as a close escape. Going to Spurs isn't a step up in my eyes, maybe in stature and size of club, but they're a poor team and are years and years away from doing anything of note.

 

We're not as big as Spurs, but as every day passes I think we may be on the brink of something a bit special. The only reason he'd move is for more money, and I don't think he's that sort. At this moment in time it's a poisoned chalice and he'd be gambling with his career.