Pochettino asks Levy to sign Jay Rodriguez

[Saint-Armstrong]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/11191213/Mauricio-Pochettino-targets-Jay-Rodriguez-as-Tottenham-manager-battles-unrest-in-White-Hart-Lane-dressing-room.html

[Roger]

Just don't understand why he'd want to go. Much better run club, better fans and better manager.

[Saint Charlie]

Just don't understand why he'd want to go. Much better run club, better fans and better manager.

 

He loved playing for Poch, is perfect in a high pressing team and has gone out of his way to praise Pochettino this summer.

 

With 18 months on his contract if he won't sign another one we will have to sell in the summer. Hopefully we can tell them to **** off in January though, especially with Mane probably away and Long not starting well in front of goal.

 

Shame Spurs didnt get Welbeck really.

[Saints foreva]

He doesn't seem interested in signing a new deal so I'd be tempted to let him go.

[SB]

I'd hope we go out of our way to not sell to spurs..

[beatlesaint]

I cannot believe Levy would sign a player for big money who has been out for 6 months with a major injury before knowing and seeing he is as good as he was before that injury.

 

I would also like to believe that Jay feels he owes Southampton for nursing him back to health but my confidence in footballers having any sort of loyalty or scruples was badly hit during the summer.

[musesaint]

I'm not sure if this isn't just Spurs propaganda. If he's got any sense he'll stay. Hopefully he'll take note of how well the famous 5 are doing.

[hypochondriac]

I want more than 15 million to be honest. Closer to 20 please.

[Baird of the land]

Really hope he signs a new contract. If he does'nt I guess we'll have to though.

Losing him for 15m would be gutting, especially to Spurs.

[LGTL]

I'm sure we'll screw over whoever wants him in terms of transfer fee. We are much more equipped now if we do lose him. Perhaps he needs to take a look at the fate of others first though.

[saint77]

Harry Kane and 10million ?

[The Cat]

I sincerely hope we aren't still interested in Townsend as the article suggests.

[Bewildered]

If Rodriguez is going to just run down his contract then let him go, but not until the summer. He will be needed while Mané is at AFCON.

 

Also, tomorrow's Sun back page says we will offer Spurs 10m for Harry Kane.

[Roger]

I sincerely hope we aren't still interested in Townsend as the article suggests.

 

I don't rate him at all. Not sure j rod will go tbh.

[angelman]

OK, he has an ACL injury that he is coming back from. All the signs are that he is doing well, but without testing it out on the pitch, you never know. So, given the story about Kane, I would give JRod an ultimatum. Sign a new contract, or sign now (which you can do, pending a move in January) for Spuds with Kane and £7.5m at least coming the other way. Personally would prefer Berahino, but Kane would be good as well.

[ART]

I think, at the moment, Jay is more concerned about playing football and recapturing his form again, than signing for the likes of Spurs or anyone. Obviously the usual know alls on this thread never have participated in his website questions and answers or spoken directly with him.

[hypochondriac]

I think, at the moment, Jay is more concerned about playing football and recapturing his form again, than signing for the likes of Spurs or anyone. Obviously the usual know alls on this thread never have participated in his website questions and answers or spoken directly with him.

 

Have you? But even if you had would you expect a different answer? His contract remaining unsigned says more than his words could.

[John Boy Saint]

An interesting line in the introduction.

 

[h=2]"Spurs line-up January bid for Southampton forward while perception grows that Argentine coach has 'untouchables' he is unwilling to drop"[/h]That was something leveled at him by players who found themselves outside MoPo's golden circle, no wonder he didn't want to get into Europe as that policy of favourites isn't going to help.

[KelvinsRightGlove]

Interesting how the article also hints at Poch having a clique of favourites. Gives some more credence to the reports about that being the case here.

[John Boy Saint]

Blimey I could swear there's an echo in here!!

[sandwichsaint]

An interesting line in the introduction.

 

"Spurs line-up January bid for Southampton forward while perception grows that Argentine coach has 'untouchables' he is unwilling to drop"

 

That was something leveled at him by players who found themselves outside MoPo's golden circle, no wonder he didn't want to get into Europe as that policy of favourites isn't going to help.

 

From the Invincibles to the Untouchables, forever in Arsenal's shadow.

 

There used to be a mong board down there, with apologies to Bill Nicholson.

[Chalkboy]

I don't buy it.

 

This article in the Telegraph from early October states that;

 

"At no stage was Rodriguez the subject of an offer and nor did he ask to be kept informed of any interest."

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/11140340/The-inside-story-of-Southamptons-brilliant-start-to-the-Premier-League-season-under-Ronald-Koeman.html

 

This despite a number of reports saying that Spurs had made a bid. I mean.......why would they buy a player who may not return at anywhere near his previous form. It makes no sense. Paper talk and speculation, re-hashing old stories.

[stevegrant]

So many things with that article.

 

Firstly, Levy won't pay us the going rate (see his pathetic Schneiderlin offers for evidence) so it's probably a non-starter anyway.

 

Secondly, given the current climate, can anyone say with a degree of certainty that Pochettino will even still be in charge at Spurs come the January transfer window?

 

Thirdly, as already mentioned, it would be a huge risk to spend big money on a player who may yet still not make a full recovery from a serious injury. Spurs aren't in a position to take that kind of risk at the moment, with every spare penny being directed towards the new stadium project.

[Toon Saint]

If we can't convince J-Rod to sign up to a long-term deal when riding high in the Premier League and when the lad is recovering from a career threatening injury, we most probably never will. With that in mind, I would begrudgingly sell him in Jan if the price is right. Can't see the logic in him looking for a move, mind.

[LostBoys]

Excuse me but if things carry on as they are Pochettino won't still be there in January. A funny story when we were at White Hart Lane a few weeks ago - we were at the excellent burger van at the away end and we were approached by three Spurs second hand car salesmen who offered to sell us Pochettino back for only half what they paid for him. Nah - you're alright thanks.

[CWD]

If I was Jay, I think I would feel a sense obligation to my employers who have not only paid me for 6 months while I haven't been able to work, but also paid for all my treatment. He shouldn't leave before the end of the season - he owes us that.

[Goatboy]

Poch: I need a bit more quicky quicky ina attack.

Levy: I think you have plenty of options there.

Poch: But Jay isa good player and he love me. Please spendy spendy.

Levy: Isn't he injured?

Poch: Si boss, but he still better than Soldado.

Levy: Speaking of which, I think I've spent enough on attacking 'talent'.

Poch: But I can't makea da top 4 without him boss.

Levy: Koeman seems to be doing ok. Got his number?

[Sour Mash]

If I was Jay, I think I would feel a sense obligation to my employers who have not only paid me for 6 months while I haven't been able to work, but also paid for all my treatment. He shouldn't leave before the end of the season - he owes us that.

 

 

Agreed, I'd go as far to say that he owes us a newly signed contract - unfortunately modern football doesn't work that way.

 

Does it seem like there are a new round of Spurs/Saints articles, just after another very poor result for Tottenham.

[Bucks Saint]

Massive non story. Not kicked a ball in anger yet, nor will he for some weeks, never mind anything else

[Professor]

Absolute rubbish, Typical re-hash of an old story aimed at selling newspapers to a few football fans who are unfortunate enough to follow Tottenham. The inclusion of the Townsend element is a giveaway as it shows that the journo who wrote this is long out-of-date.

[Unbelievable Jeff]

Just a hypothetical one. Is Jay Rod that good? He's played well for 6 months since he's been here, just not sure whether the playing badly is the anomaly, or the playing well?

 

After a massive injury will he be the same? Just playing devils advocate here.

[david in sweden]

If Rodriguez is going to just run down his contract then let him go, but not until the summer. He will be needed while Mané is at AFCON.

 

Also, tomorrow's Sun back page says we will offer Spurs 10m for Harry Kane.

 

 

..maybe..... but I think a lot of people are blinded by what shines out of the Sun's back page ......

[KingdomCome]

I just don't see it, for the many reasons already stated (cost, unknown ability after injury, poch might not be there come January).

 

...even if he does go, we'd only sell for a decent amount; he's far from a guaranteed start even in last season's form; and if he isn't right back there he'll be unlikely to get a huge amount of games. How much of a loss would he be?

 

Don't get me wrong, if he is close to how he was last season, he'd be a very strong asset and another option for Koeman to use and if he goes we should be looking for a replacement. It certainly wouldn't be the end of the world if he were to go though.

 

Loyalty bears no weight on footballers now so the time and money spent by Saints to fix him up will unlikely even cross his mind.

[redmotorstone]

Confused with the whole JR situation if I'm honest ..... I know agents play a major role in a contract, telling the player where to go for the best money and all that, all for the player benefit I may add but if Koeman really does want him it needs sorting.

 

Will he go to Spurs? If he's mad he will - totally unorganised team that seems to have the wrong coach for the players it has or vice versa depending which way you look at it.

 

There is also the major element that has yet to be mentioned. We have sold a lot of players for, well lets just say more than they were worth. This has got an awful lot of press coverage and to me, we will be watched now regarding the price of our players. None of those we have sold are playing towards their price tag and with JR just coming out of a long term serious injury I don't think a. We would get what we want and b. Jay would get the club and deal he wants.

 

I love the players we have and have 100% trust in Ron, but if a player want to go - P1ss off I say.

[SW5 SAINT]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/11191213/Mauricio-Pochettino-targets-Jay-Rodriguez-as-Tottenham-manager-battles-unrest-in-White-Hart-Lane-dressing-room.html

 

I love that "10 things Pochettino should not say to his translator"…….

[redmotorstone]

We do not need to sell players now, we have a large pot in the bank and an already quality filled squad. If anything we should be adding some strength in depth in January and Jay would be ideal. If of course he wants to stay that is!

[Gemmel]

Perhaps it's because it is in the Telegraph, the article is given more credibility than the copy deserves.

 

First the club confirmed (In the last three weeks or so) that they had NO bids for JROD in the summer transfer window. Do football clubs always tell the truth? Of course not, but in this instance and certainly back in the transfer window, Saints turning down bids would have been a much needed "Good news" story, that we were not prepared to sell anymore players and would have been shouted from the roof tops as opposed to denying it. Then there is the point of course that how do you ever bid for a player with that sort of injury.

 

Secondly (Within the last two weeks) the club have confirmed that JRod will be back in full training within 7 - 8 weeks, so where the journalist gets this aim to return in mid November from ????, Starts to paint a picture of how credible the whole story is.

 

JRod has turned down a new contract, that's suggests he wants to go and if spurs are ready to make an appropriate bid in January, then we should seriously consider it, because very few players come back the same, from these injuries. My guess is they won't (In January) and will wait to see how he performs. Next Summer would be the most likely scenario IMO, but then that wouldn't provide two pages of ill-informed article to fill a newspaper.

Edited 28 October, 2014 by Gemmel

[CB Saint]

If Jrod is stalling on a contract, has dodgy knee and wants to go, and if spurs are willing to cough then why not. Spurs may be willing pay a damn sight more if they are struggling for goals -

 

The Harry Kane story is an interesting one. I wonder if the club have put it out there to get spurs used to the idea of a player swap

[Saint_Tony]

Spurs are very much interested. As good as he's been, I'd let him go. Although it's not guaranteed MP will be there in January from what I've heard.

[angelman]

Spurs are very much interested. As good as he's been, I'd let him go. Although it's not guaranteed MP will be there in January from what I've heard.

 

I agree, that I would let him go. He did well last season, fair enough, but not the season before with only 6 goals. If they want to buy him now, and offer a decent amount and Jrod doesn't want to be here, then given the injury and the risks associated, wouldn't it would be a little foolish not to accept?

 

And Tony, what have you heard re Pochettino? Is it just tittle tattle on the internet or something more concrete?

[Saint_Tony]

I agree, that I would let him go. He did well last season, fair enough, but not the season before with only 6 goals. If they want to buy him now, and offer a decent amount and Jrod doesn't want to be here, then given the injury and the risks associated, wouldn't it would be a little foolish not to accept?

 

And Tony, what have you heard re Pochettino? Is it just tittle tattle on the internet or something more concrete?

Not going to go into too much detail, but all is not well behind the scenes, hardly surprising given Spurs' start to the season.

[CB Saint]

Not going to go into too much detail, but all is not well behind the scenes, hardly surprising given Spurs' start to the season.

 

That's such a shame.

[SaintRobbie]

So many things with that article.

 

Firstly, Levy won't pay us the going rate (see his pathetic Schneiderlin offers for evidence) so it's probably a non-starter anyway.

 

Secondly, given the current climate, can anyone say with a degree of certainty that Pochettino will even still be in charge at Spurs come the January transfer window?

 

Thirdly, as already mentioned, it would be a huge risk to spend big money on a player who may yet still not make a full recovery from a serious injury. Spurs aren't in a position to take that kind of risk at the moment, with every spare penny being directed towards the new stadium project.

 

My thoughts exactly Steve, although I sense Levy will have to stick with Pottychino for the season at least. What's more I sense that Pottychino would be saying to Levy that he agreed to come if he could bring Schneiderlin and Jay Rod with him, and he hasn't been given either,yet. Does that mean Levy has to pay more to back his managerial selection? Either way, Saints are in a very strong position.

Edited 28 October, 2014 by SaintRobbie

[SaintRobbie]

Absolute rubbish, Typical re-hash of an old story aimed at selling newspapers to a few football fans who are unfortunate enough to follow Tottenham. The inclusion of the Townsend element is a giveaway as it shows that the journo who wrote this is long out-of-date.

 

I find the Townsend thing interesting. Do we really want him? There appears to be much better out there for the money.

[SaintRobbie]

Spurs are very much interested. As good as he's been, I'd let him go. Although it's not guaranteed MP will be there in January from what I've heard.

 

Come on Tony. You need to tell us what you've heard about Spurs

 

Even if it turns out to be rubbish, it is good for morale!

[Saint Rees]

I find the Townsend thing interesting. Do we really want him? There appears to be much better out there for the money.

 

Think it was either him or Mane, I know who I'd rather have

[sfc1976]

He'd probably struggle to get into our team these days, so don't begrudge him his move down the ladder to get regular football with them.

[Unbelievable Jeff]

Sell Jay Rod, bring in Memphis Depay...

[stevegrant]

I can't believe there are people who genuinely want us to flog Rodriguez.

[Gemmel]

I can't believe there are people who genuinely want us to flog Rodriguez.

 

if the offer is based on his worth pre injury, we would have to consider it (20 Million +).

 

I wouldn't want to sell him in a million years, but as of yet we don't know whether we own a 20 million pound player or a player who struggles to find his previous standards.