Wiggles31 Posted 18 October, 2014 Posted 18 October, 2014 Bring in Wanyama. Felt he gave us good balance when he came on. Plus this will be a more physical affair. 9-0 for me.
JxgrSaint Posted 18 October, 2014 Posted 18 October, 2014 I'm plumping for a conservative combined scoreline for both games of 17-1
Saint_clark Posted 18 October, 2014 Posted 18 October, 2014 Wanyama for who? If you had to choose one of the three CMs who performed the least you'd have to say it was Schneiderlin. Unless you bring him in for Long and put Davis back out wide, but I think that upsets the balance sometimes.
SuperMikey Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 You'd have to be mental to make changes to a Starting XI after an 8-0 win!
Roger Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Wanyama for who? If you had to choose one of the three CMs who performed the least you'd have to say it was Schneiderlin. Unless you bring him in for Long and put Davis back out wide, but I think that upsets the balance sometimes. Really? Thought he was fantastic.
CanadaSaint Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 You'd have to be mental to make changes to a Starting XI after an 8-0 win! Indeed. Moreover, Wanyama and Mané are tremendous players to have "up our sleeve", whether we're looking to solidify a midfield in which everyone runs their nuts off, or to throw electric pace at a tiring defence. And even Mayuka didn't look out of place during his brief appearance. There were many exciting dimensions to yesterday's game, but one was certainly the quality we now have on the bench.
RedWillie Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Anyone wanting a ticket should get them now. I think there is an offer hence why it is now limited availability. Got two last night but couldn't get two together in block 33 or 34 unless in back rows.
Batman Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 there could well be a change in wanyama coming in I doubt stoke will press the self destruct button like sunderland, who had the better of the play for the first 20. Even RK made the point in public he was not happy about it
pangy Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Won't be long before teams start man marking/doubling up on Tadic. When J-rod is back will Tadic go into the middle with Mane/long/Davis out wide ???
SNSUN Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Got to keep the same line up, surely? Wanyama and Mané are the debatables, but I'd rather start Long over Mané against a tough Stoke side. 2-1 win though.
Bucks Saint Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 there could well be a change in wanyama coming in I doubt stoke will press the self destruct button like sunderland, who had the better of the play for the first 20. Even RK made the point in public he was not happy about it Probably agree but worth remembering that Sunderland beat Stoke recently.
Dalek2003 Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 This will be a very tough game, Stoke will park the bus and try an beat us on the break. We need to be patient and try and grind out a win or at least a draw.
nta786 Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Hypothetical Question- Would you rather win the league game or the cup game? I genuinely am not sure lol- I'd love a cup run but am loving being around the top We can't go worse than 4th if we do lose :/
Dalek2003 Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Hypothetical Question- Would you rather win the league game or the cup game? I genuinely am not sure lol- I'd love a cup run but am loving being around the top We can't go worse than 4th if we do lose :/ The league every time. In fact I would rest some of our best players for the Cup game.
hutch Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 We've only conceded one goal at St.Mary's this season. It would be nice to keep that going a bit longer.
CB Fry Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 The league every time. In fact I would rest some of our best players for the Cup game. More comedy gold.
nta786 Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Hypothetical Question- Would you rather win the league game or the cup game? I genuinely am not sure lol- I'd love a cup run but am loving being around the top We can't go worse than 4th if we do lose :/ tbh answering my own question- i'd go for the cup- we're likely for top half and a day out at wembley would just be too much for me- mean the world.
Bucks Saint Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Hypothetical Question- Would you rather win the league game or the cup game? I genuinely am not sure lol- I'd love a cup run but am loving being around the top We can't go worse than 4th if we do lose :/ No reason at all we cant go out and win both. I am sure that this is the mindset RK has set in the team already - win every game and dont settle for anything less
Roger Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Stokes fans are complete animals. Moaning at ref for everything. He gave them a pen that wasn't too. How many will be there for capital one cup?
doddisalegend Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Wanyama in for Cork. Why? Cork was immense yesterday again. The paper this morning gave Cork a better mark out of ten than both Morgan and Davis yet people want to drop Cork again. Cork moves the ball so much better and quicker than Victor IMO. I mean this is stoke at home we're playing not Chelsea away I'd rather we put them under the cosh with quick flowing football rather than go defensive so Cork on the pitch and Victor on the bench for me.
teenagegsaint Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Why? Cork was immense yesterday again. The paper this morning gave Cork a better mark out of ten than both Morgan and Davis yet people want to drop Cork again. Cork moves the ball so much better and quicker than Victor IMO. I mean this is stoke at home we're playing not Chelsea away I'd rather we put them under the cosh with quick flowing football rather than go defensive so Cork on the pitch and Victor on the bench for me. Why? Wanyama is better Stoke are a very physical side so Wanyama has to play imo.
Roger Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 For me wanyama is better than cork. Love corky too. But Vic is awesome.
markr27 Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 i think the only choice is Wanyama or Cork. The rest of the starting XI (from yesterday) will play. Is it me, or has Mayuka "beefed" up a bit?
shurlock Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Koeman seemed to suggest that the two changes were forced on him by the international break and traveling, so wouldn't be surprised if Long or Cork drops out.
whelk Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 For me wanyama is better than cork. Love corky too. But Vic is awesome. Is this going to be raised on every pre-match thread? Surely about time someone brought up Wanyama's win ratio stats or pass completion rate?
LGTL Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Moses has gone off today holding his hamstring, could be a doubt for next week and the cup game.
SW5 SAINT Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Hypothetical Question- Would you rather win the league game or the cup game? I genuinely am not sure lol- I'd love a cup run but am loving being around the top We can't go worse than 4th if we do lose :/ At the moment the league game, genuinely think anything possible league wise this early in the season. However come early next year might be different. I would however always take the FA Cup over the League Cup anytime.
Wiggles31 Posted 19 October, 2014 Author Posted 19 October, 2014 Watching them now. This will be our hardest home game of the season so far. They maintain that ugly style under Hughes too hence big Vic in the team for me.
Dalek2003 Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 More comedy gold. Most premier managers will put the League before the Cup. Stop being a pudding.
doddisalegend Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Why? Wanyama is better Stoke are a very physical side so Wanyama has to play imo. He really is not. Better tackler for sure but Vic's passing is ponderous at best he so often slows counter attacks down with pointless passes or slow thought. What Cork lacks in physicality he makes up for in moving the ball better.
Plastic Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Such a horrible team, full of cloggers. Expect a couple of injuries from this one. They defend very well down the centre, but look vulnerable out wide. Hopefully this bodes well for tadic / pelle / long / mane
Saint_Tony Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Will be tougher to break down than Sunderland, that's for sure. Another win would really show we mean business. Think we'll see a 1-1 draw in this one though
Badger Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 This has 0-0 written all over it. As did yesterday.
eelpie Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 This has 0-0 written all over it. Just like Sunderland was...
farawaysaint Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Just like Sunderland was... We need Trousers to say it before it is officially a rout.
sentry Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Vs West Ham I thought (as did many others) Vic would play as WHU are a physical side. RK rested him, bench I think, surprised a few but worked out ok. I was not at the game though so might be wrong. 0-2 to saints for me.
doddisalegend Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Will be tougher to break down than Sunderland, that's for sure. Another win would really show we mean business. Think we'll see a 1-1 draw in this one though Sunderland beat them 3-1, they drew 2-2 with QPR and only managed 1-0 against Newcastle they're OK but if we play our football the way we can we should beat them IMO
Baird of the land Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Only change possibly mane for long. Personally prefer balance of midfield with cork in for home games over less fluent but with defensive shield of wanyama.
Dark Munster Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Sunderland beat them 3-1, they drew 2-2 with QPR and only managed 1-0 against Newcastle they're OK but if we play our football the way we can we should beat them IMO Yes, but they won 1-0 at Citeh. Still can't figure out how that happened.
fanimal Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 Cork has started playing more up front, so for Stoke get Big Vic back in and Mane for Long, only tweaks for me; but credit to Shane he won loads of headers yesterday, great well timed leaps. Stoke will not start as open as Sunderland did for sure.
Saint_clark Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 We've only conceded one goal at St.Mary's this season. It would be nice to keep that going a bit longer. Bojan hasn't had the effect they thought he would so a clean sheet should definitely be our target.
Roger Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 He really is not. Better tackler for sure but Vic's passing is ponderous at best he so often slows counter attacks down with pointless passes or slow thought. What Cork lacks in physicality he makes up for in moving the ball better. Don't agree. Vic improved loads at that and still offers more on defence and he also is adding goals too.
ant Posted 19 October, 2014 Posted 19 October, 2014 I'm just glad that we have such depth of quality in the midfield. Whoever misses out on the start, there'll be players on the bench that can turn a game for us.
JRM Posted 20 October, 2014 Posted 20 October, 2014 It will be interesting to see what the crowd is for this game, Ssints being 3rd in the league having just won 8-0 and ticket prices being Category C - cheapest available PLUS the ticket offer of £25 in the chapel stand for season ticket holders to buy extra for mates. Stoke won't bring many down so block 43 will once again remain empty behind the goal unless the rest of the ground sells out and they open it up for home fans. I would play the same side for this, like the option of Mane coming off the bench and we can bring Wanyama on 2nd half. Will be a tough game - another team we have failed to beat since getting back up to prem, we always draw with them so about time we put that right. Strange having them in the cup a few days later as well
Mowgli Posted 20 October, 2014 Posted 20 October, 2014 Same starting 11 please. Tough game with a lot of antics to watch out for (Shawcross and Moses will have alerted referees to their behaviour already). Crouch will want to have a good game too. I'd be happy with a scrappy win to be honest. With Man Utd and Chelsea facing one another on sunday there is a real opportunity to close in on the leaders.
Mowgli Posted 20 October, 2014 Posted 20 October, 2014 Won't be long before teams start man marking/doubling up on Tadic. When J-rod is back will Tadic go into the middle with Mane/long/Davis out wide ??? It's extremely difficult to man mark a player like Tadic out of the game. He's just too mobile. Always looking for space, switching flanks and thriving on one touches you can easily find players chasing shadows and being pulled out of position which will only work in our favour creating space eleswhere on the pitch. You would lose a lot of that if he moved into the middle. I think J Rod will challenge Pelle and Long for position on the pitch. It's a squad game now though so potentially room for all three on the pitch over 90 minutes IMO
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