St Jim Posted 17 February, 2015 Share Posted 17 February, 2015 What part of maybe don't you lot understand ? I don't care what any of you say if you are inclined to believe someone you have never met (no matter who they are supposed to be) that's down to you I'll listen to the bloke who gave me free stuff that I have actually met and talked to and if you wanna get picky actually read thru ALL my comments and then come back and speak to me Per your own post "maybe" was about the own brand kit. What part of the statement "negotiations for next seasons kit had to be done by last October to be ready for the summer" do you not see as complete ********? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 17 February, 2015 Share Posted 17 February, 2015 Just look at Portsmouth. No really, look: http://www.sportsdirect.com/sondico-portsmouth-home-shirt-2013-2014-junior-378070?colcode=37807050 "From £2.50" . Is that the shirt price or the club valuation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 February, 2015 Author Share Posted 17 February, 2015 (edited) That's a very wrong shade of blue, this is more Saints 'traditional' blue Dark blue shorts would also look good with the 'Rank Xerox' shirt but gets my vote either way. I actually bought that USA 94 kit, home and away. Can't believe I got rid of them, along with the 1990 US blue shirt. Absolute classics. Edited 17 February, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 February, 2015 Author Share Posted 17 February, 2015 Is that the shirt price or the club valuation? Total fan share valuation (with £2.50 added). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 February, 2015 Author Share Posted 17 February, 2015 FWIW, that Skate shirt is last year's in youth sizes (it's taken them ages to shift all the other stuff which has been under £10 since September). They're clearly keeping the home shirt from this season at full price until they get rid of last year's stock, because who the hell would pay £35 for one, and they've already reduced the 2014/15 away, keepers' and third shirts to £15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%Red&White Posted 17 February, 2015 Share Posted 17 February, 2015 Red, White & Blue. Looks ace. Played in blue shorts from 1891-1950 http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Southampton/Southampton.htm The IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 17 February, 2015 Share Posted 17 February, 2015 Works well imo. That at looks pretty damn great to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 17 February, 2015 Share Posted 17 February, 2015 I just saw this on a Facebook group, I have no idea from whence it came. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 18 February, 2015 Author Share Posted 18 February, 2015 (edited) It's a fairly messy (see grey lines not matching the red stripes) photoshop using 2015/16 adidas templates in the Football Manager format. I should know, I've done plenty of them in the past. Useful indicator though, and I think it looks fairly decent. FWIW, that template would probably have mesh holes around one of the sleeve/cuffs and possibly a second mesh hoop around the hem. Though NY City FC's away shirt has the same style without mesh, but then they released that in late 2014 so it could yet be a prototype (as the home shirt is older than the club!). At some point when I'm REALLY bored I'll probably do a cut and paste of all the different options from the screenshots on previous pages so we can see what they all look like. If I can be ar5ed . Plus obviously there's no guarantee of stripes (though it looks likely) and no guarantee of the thickness or kind of stripes they'd be anyway. Edited 18 February, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 18 February, 2015 Author Share Posted 18 February, 2015 Just spotted the Chelsea leaks - they've got a variation on the standard templates (as usual), in this case with a hybrid collar and cuffs. Which match. Only graphics of the away and third, here. I am bored and thus halfway through producing that mix-and-match template thing I mentioned above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 18 February, 2015 Author Share Posted 18 February, 2015 Oh and here's a slight variation on the original Liverpool leak, it's still ugly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 18 February, 2015 Author Share Posted 18 February, 2015 (edited) Ok, here are all the various different "pieces" of pretty much all of the adidas styles released so far, chances are what Saints get will have one piece from each of these images. Note also that the "squared" shoulder bit forces the shirt to have the "squared" cuff bit too. Plus the Chelsea one above, seeing as they've crapped about with the template. I expect Man U will do the same, and Bayern, and Real, but that's about it. Even Milan and Ajax have only been allowed a very minor tweak or addition to the standard. Of course the main body of the shirt can have pretty much anything they like printed on it. And why yes, this was all my own work. Edited 18 February, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 18 February, 2015 Share Posted 18 February, 2015 Per your own post "maybe" was about the own brand kit. What part of the statement "negotiations for next seasons kit had to be done by last October to be ready for the summer" do you not see as complete ********? I think the fact that we have only got a 1 year deal (the remainder of the original contract) tells its own story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jim Posted 19 February, 2015 Share Posted 19 February, 2015 I think the fact that we have only got a 1 year deal (the remainder of the original contract) tells its own story! What, that Ralf and co. have worked hard to repair the damage caused by Nicola and that both parties came to an agreement to see out the remainder of the contract and that we may be with Adidas next year or we may be not? I'm not sure there's really anything of substance that can be drawn from the fact that we only have one year left of a contract with Adidas and that we're seeing it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 19 February, 2015 Author Share Posted 19 February, 2015 Given the massive change in the club's profile since the original deal was agreed (and the potential legal fee savings from going back to the original deal) I think it makes every bit of sense just to have the one year. It also gives the club a bit more negotiating leverage than if they were in a multi-year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 19 February, 2015 Share Posted 19 February, 2015 Conspiracy theory time: What if Cortese signed an agreement with AN Other kit manufacturer for this season, cancelling the Adidas one for no other reason that they had ****ed him off and he found someone else that would deliver what he wanted? Adidas refused to step aside and threatened to sue the club for millions. The new management set up has a binding agreement with two different companies and has to pick up the pieces. They renegotiate with A N Other to start after the Adidas contract runs out but by the time this renegotiation has been complete Adidas couldn't deliver the shirt for this season. Because of this, they agree to us developing our own shirt for this season on the condition their contract is completed next season. We are then free to take up the contract with A N Other the following season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 19 February, 2015 Author Share Posted 19 February, 2015 Conspiracy theory time: What if Cortese signed an agreement with AN Other kit manufacturer for this season, cancelling the Adidas one for no other reason that they had ****ed him off and he found someone else that would deliver what he wanted? Adidas refused to step aside and threatened to sue the club for millions. The new management set up has a binding agreement with two different companies and has to pick up the pieces. They renegotiate with A N Other to start after the Adidas contract runs out but by the time this renegotiation has been complete Adidas couldn't deliver the shirt for this season. Because of this, they agree to us developing our own shirt for this season on the condition their contract is completed next season. We are then free to take up the contract with A N Other the following season. Occam's razor applies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 19 February, 2015 Author Share Posted 19 February, 2015 As well as Chelsea, Northern Ireland have mildly irritated me by using this collar for their away kit (not catalogued above): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyOldBoy Posted 19 February, 2015 Share Posted 19 February, 2015 Conspiracy theory time: What if Cortese signed an agreement with AN Other kit manufacturer for this season, cancelling the Adidas one for no other reason that they had ****ed him off and he found someone else that would deliver what he wanted? Adidas refused to step aside and threatened to sue the club for millions. The new management set up has a binding agreement with two different companies and has to pick up the pieces. They renegotiate with A N Other to start after the Adidas contract runs out but by the time this renegotiation has been complete Adidas couldn't deliver the shirt for this season. Because of this, they agree to us developing our own shirt for this season on the condition their contract is completed next season. We are then free to take up the contract with A N Other the following season. No this did not happen. I have been told by someone in the know that Puma wanted the contract for this season but Saints were intent on home-brew for this season. Adidas were in no position to sue Saints for millions since their delivery in year 1 was not as per contract... The one year deal we now have is of no real importance since Saints can judge the delivery in the autumn and then court several suppliers with an obvious preference to stick with what you know. If we get a Europa league spot or better.... you can guarantee that the club will sign a very lucrative kit/apparel contract well before next seasons end.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 19 February, 2015 Author Share Posted 19 February, 2015 Not a new style, but a look at the long sleeved versions of DC United's away kit (and the purple Orlando shirt from a while back with the weird overlapping sleeve with other sleeve under it...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 19 February, 2015 Author Share Posted 19 February, 2015 No this did not happen. I have been told by someone in the know that Puma wanted the contract for this season but Saints were intent on home-brew for this season. Adidas were in no position to sue Saints for millions since their delivery in year 1 was not as per contract... The one year deal we now have is of no real importance since Saints can judge the delivery in the autumn and then court several suppliers with an obvious preference to stick with what you know. If we get a Europa league spot or better.... you can guarantee that the club will sign a very lucrative kit/apparel contract well before next seasons end.... The timeline suggests to me that Cortese's legacy left them with no choice in the matter. Guessing your contact is Puma-side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%Red&White Posted 19 February, 2015 Share Posted 19 February, 2015 As well as Chelsea, Northern Ireland have mildly irritated me by using this collar for their away kit (not catalogued above): Change the 2 shades of blue for red and white and you'll have the mid-1890s Saints kit - not to mention Ronald's old Feyenord colours. http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Southampton/Southampton.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 February, 2015 Author Share Posted 25 February, 2015 Just had a look at the 2015 adidas teamwear range - this is the only striped one (Argentina style): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 February, 2015 Author Share Posted 25 February, 2015 (edited) Flamengo 2015/16 Third: Edited 2 March, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 February, 2015 Author Share Posted 25 February, 2015 Basel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 25 February, 2015 Share Posted 25 February, 2015 Basel I'd be happy with a saints style version of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 March, 2015 Author Share Posted 2 March, 2015 Probably a unique women's collar for the Mexico women's kit - but interesting to see what the long sleeved version of these shirts look like: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 March, 2015 Author Share Posted 2 March, 2015 Ditto with Montreal - same long sleeve style as the purple Orlando shirt above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 March, 2015 Share Posted 2 March, 2015 I think we should go for blue shorts. There's a tradition that we used to have them, and it would make us genuinely distinct from Stokunderland. And I think would look rather nice. And white socks. gets my vote every time. The red and white stripes look far far better when matched with dark blue shirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 March, 2015 Share Posted 2 March, 2015 Not a new style, but a look at the long sleeved versions of DC United's away kit (and the purple Orlando shirt from a while back with the weird overlapping sleeve with other sleeve under it...). I like this, although a bit Arsenal-esque. Mind you, better than Britsol-City-esque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 March, 2015 Author Share Posted 4 March, 2015 In case anyone is wondering the sort of detailing that makes a shirt "not a teamwear kit", this is the kind of thing adidas can do if they're asked to: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 In case anyone is wondering the sort of detailing that makes a shirt "not a teamwear kit", this is the kind of thing adidas can do if they're asked to: Great. They can make it look like luxury super soft toilet roll. The stripes are back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 March, 2015 Author Share Posted 4 March, 2015 (edited) Real Salt Lake away - more interesting for the shorts style with the contrast trim around the bottom, and the hooped socks than anything else - those socks would look decent in red and white... Chicago Fire away shows one of the other adidas shorts templates for 2015/16, though the socks look bespoke. Edited 4 March, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 Real Salt Lake away - more interesting for the shorts style with the contrast trim around the bottom, and the hooped socks than anything else - those socks would look decent in red and white... Arent they exactly the same as ours last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 March, 2015 Author Share Posted 4 March, 2015 Great. They can make it look like luxury super soft toilet roll. The stripes are back. They can, but they very tangibly didn't in 2013/14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 March, 2015 Author Share Posted 4 March, 2015 (edited) Arent they exactly the same as ours last year? Not at all. Last season's were broad, equal-sized hoops, with a three-stripe turnover. Edited 4 March, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 March, 2015 Author Share Posted 4 March, 2015 Portland Timbers 2015/16, also showing a different shorts style - with a narrow hoop around the top of the short (see pic left). Ties in with the shirts with the tape around the bottom, to give a similar effect whether shirt is tucked in or not (i.e. they don't actually go with this shirt style properly!). Also another alternative sock style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 Ever since I moved here I have been frustrated with how much effort Adidas goes to for MLS clubs compared to most English clubs. The Bespoke elements and variations in details like customised socks, watermarks, customised printing etc. It's probably the difference between Adidas NA and Adidas Europe, not to mention Adidas's contract to supply the whole league. Also every team gets a full fanwear range of leisurewear such as Adidas originals tee's and alternative track tops, scarfs hats etc. It did mention in our press release that we would have a fanwear collection, so I look forward to seeing what this consists of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 If we make it into Europe do you think there is any chance we could have a special European kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 Ever since I moved here I have been frustrated with how much effort Adidas goes to for MLS clubs compared to most English clubs. The Bespoke elements and variations in details like customised socks, watermarks, customised printing etc. It's probably the difference between Adidas NA and Adidas Europe, not to mention Adidas's contract to supply the whole league. Also every team gets a full fanwear range of leisurewear such as Adidas originals tee's and alternative track tops, scarfs hats etc. It did mention in our press release that we would have a fanwear collection, so I look forward to seeing what this consists of. I would've thought it may be something to do with Adidas' MLS deal is with the league overrall, not individual teams as in Europe, therefore they have to offer bespoke kits, fanwear, leisurewear etc. for every team as part of their contract...I may be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 March, 2015 Share Posted 5 March, 2015 I was listening to a bit of UB40 last night, their song red, red wine was a great hit some time ago. Imagine a kit with a dark red line running through it. Wouldn't it be SASHational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 March, 2015 Author Share Posted 5 March, 2015 Ever since I moved here I have been frustrated with how much effort Adidas goes to for MLS clubs compared to most English clubs. The Bespoke elements and variations in details like customised socks, watermarks, customised printing etc. It's probably the difference between Adidas NA and Adidas Europe, not to mention Adidas's contract to supply the whole league. Also every team gets a full fanwear range of leisurewear such as Adidas originals tees and alternative track tops, scarfs hats etc. It did mention in our press release that we would have a fanwear collection, so I look forward to seeing what this consists of. It is a bit weird, but as you say, probably due to the single MLS contract. They clearly bother to do similar in Europe for SOME teams, hence the tweaks to standard templates for Real Madrid, Chelsea, Bayern etc., but the effort for most just involves using mix and match template pieces and maybe a jazzy screen print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 March, 2015 Author Share Posted 5 March, 2015 If we make it into Europe do you think there is any chance we could have a special European kit? They may use the opportunity to market a third kit, as adidas usually only provide two new ones a season. In terms of European regulations, the number has to be on a coloured panel for visibility, so I would expect probably the same shirt design but with a red or white back panel, and probably adidas numbers rather than Premier League ones. I may Google for some examples from this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 March, 2015 Author Share Posted 5 March, 2015 Just realised that either they've changed the number regulations for the Champions League or Barcelona are just ignoring them (obviously their numbers are clearly visible but that wasn't the rule, it was that it had to be on a single colour panel): Atletico Madrid are wearing a white patch in the CL: but they're also doing that in La Liga, so you can't make any assumptions about UEFA regulations: and they also have additional ads on their socks in the Copa Del Rey, FWIW: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 March, 2015 Author Share Posted 5 March, 2015 (edited) Porto v Shakhtar sees Porto with a white panel, and Shakhtar with a single coloured shirt back: But then Porto also have the panel in the Portuguese League: And Shakhtar are playing in this in the Ukranian Premier League too: None of which helps... Edited 5 March, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 March, 2015 Author Share Posted 5 March, 2015 (edited) Finally found one which confirms there's still some form of European regulations - Athletic Bilbao have a red patch in Europe: But their La Liga 2014/15 shirt has a different sponsor and no red patch on the back: I haven't found many adidas examples yet... Edited 5 March, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 March, 2015 Share Posted 5 March, 2015 Finally found one which confirms there's still some form of European regulations - Athletic Bilbao have a red patch in Europe: But their La Liga 2014/15 shirt has a different sponsor and no red patch on the back: I haven't found many adidas examples yet... Don't waste your time pal, we won't be in stripes anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 7 March, 2015 Author Share Posted 7 March, 2015 Don't waste your time pal, we won't be in stripes anyway Yeah yeah... I'll believe it when they start hyping up the 130th Anniversary with a load of sash pics the week before they start the kit reveal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 7 March, 2015 Share Posted 7 March, 2015 They're selling off the own-brand 2014/15 shirts already, may be that means the new shirt will get an early announcement this year instead of having to wait until mid-July... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 March, 2015 Share Posted 7 March, 2015 Yeah yeah... I'll believe it when they start hyping up the 130th Anniversary with a load of sash pics the week before they start the kit reveal. £130 season tickets yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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