BlakeySFC Posted 30 April, 2015 Share Posted 30 April, 2015 I like both, will probably just buy the home though, the release date annoys me though, would it kill them to reveal it in May, and release it after a couple of weeks? F**king July Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 April, 2015 Author Share Posted 30 April, 2015 Lots of kits get leaked and people knocking up hoax shirts! Yes this was leaked then but was not confirmed as being it. It is definitely it unfortunately! Launches officially at last game of season, sale in July. It was as confirmed as it needed to be. Authentic buyer-brochure style design, using the same outline picture adidas used in last year's Premier League handbook and matching 2015 adidas designs which were still being released at the time. No-one goes to that amount of trouble to mock up a fake. Last game of the season is away, btw... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 April, 2015 Author Share Posted 30 April, 2015 Genuinely having that green away kit? Because of some w*nk partnership with a Yank club? Talk about selling your soul. Which no-one has seen or heard anything about since it was first mooted... hmmmmm... I'm more in the "wearing a colour of shirt is selling your soul? You haven't got much of a soul" camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 30 April, 2015 Share Posted 30 April, 2015 Why not just have a yellow and blue away kit? Popular, bit of history to it, don't see why we don't just stick to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 30 April, 2015 Share Posted 30 April, 2015 I'll reserve judgement on the away kit until I learn the reasons for it and how / if it benefits Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 30 April, 2015 Share Posted 30 April, 2015 Have been hoping for the return of a sash kit but not convinced that green is what we were wanting! Will reserve judgement until I've seen the real thing as it may look less nasty in reality. Home shirt is fine, nice to see some proper stripes and a decent quality kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 30 April, 2015 Share Posted 30 April, 2015 Why not just have a yellow and blue away kit? Popular, bit of history to it, don't see why we don't just stick to that. because it's never a great seller as it missed the jeans and a footy shirt market! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 April, 2015 Author Share Posted 30 April, 2015 The professionalism of the mock-up pretty much confirmed this 99% to be the actual kit, as many others agreed. Not quiet sure what my opinion is on the kit, however my initial thought is that it's not too bad. Could always have been better though.. Since I saw this leak there's never been the remotest doubt in my mind that it's accurate. Some bloke chucking out a photoshop on twitter is absolutely not the same as a photograph of what looks like a page from a buyer's brochure showing legit adidas kit model designs. The whole "now it's confirmed" thing is people who claim to have other sources being able to confirm it, but there's never been any doubt since that was leaked anyway. As I said in early March, may as well close the thread now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 April, 2015 Author Share Posted 30 April, 2015 because it's never a great seller as it missed the jeans and a footy shirt market! It's mostly because everyone who's going to buy a yellow Saints shirt already has a yellow Saints shirt. Only the idiots like me who want them all will buy it. We've had a LOT of yellow away shirts - personally I'm always hoping for an amber/black one like the briefly used early 70s one, it's one of the few designs that hasn't been retroed already. But then that's because my home-town club happens to play in those colours. Speaking of which, their new shirt (out today) is absolutely dull as ditchwater and they really should put a bit more effort into announcing it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 30 April, 2015 Share Posted 30 April, 2015 I don't think much of their away or third strips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 April, 2015 Author Share Posted 30 April, 2015 I'll reserve judgement on the away kit until I learn the reasons for it and how / if it benefits Saints. I like it anyway, different without being offensive and not too "fashiony", the sort of thing away kit designs are for. Will be interesting to see if the shirt is lighter than it appears, as it seems daft to have black home shorts and navy away - but I'm pretty sure we won't be wearing any royal blue any time soon. I look forward to the green alternate shorts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 April, 2015 Author Share Posted 30 April, 2015 I don't think much of their away or third strips. Well THAT was inevitable. I think the red one is the keeper's, but I can see loads of problems with tie-pulling incidents in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 30 April, 2015 Share Posted 30 April, 2015 I like it anyway, different without being offensive and not too "fashiony", the sort of thing away kit designs are for. Will be interesting to see if the shirt is lighter than it appears, as it seems daft to have black home shorts and navy away - but I'm pretty sure we won't be wearing any royal blue any time soon. I look forward to the green alternate shorts... My main issue with green kits is that they look like goalkeeper tops. I just always associate that colour (in non-stripe or non-hoop form) with keepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 April, 2015 Author Share Posted 30 April, 2015 Just to confirm the point I'm making about the authenticity of the leaked design from March, this is Sunderland's shirt from last season as shown in the Premier League Handbook 2014/15: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 April, 2015 Author Share Posted 30 April, 2015 And here's the Swansea one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 April, 2015 Author Share Posted 30 April, 2015 As you can probably tell, the adidas format is very similar to the leak - but the designs of the Saints leaks are 2015 templates, not last year's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 April, 2015 Author Share Posted 30 April, 2015 Being green , if it's as dark as it looks I'm Sure we will need a third strip for the odd game For matches against all those teams playing in red and green stripes? The only problem I can see is playing away to a team in the League Cup or FA Cup which has black or navy shorts, due to those competition rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 April, 2015 Author Share Posted 30 April, 2015 (edited) My main issue with green kits is that they look like goalkeeper tops. I just always associate that colour (in non-stripe or non-hoop form) with keepers. In the 1970s maybe! I think we're past that point, it's as likely to be green as any other colour. Though of course quite a few recent seasons have seen Saints keepers in green: 2010/11: 2011/12 (green-ish): 2013/14: 2014/15: There have also been 2012/13: and the various change keeper shirts in the same time period: Edited 30 April, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 April, 2015 Author Share Posted 30 April, 2015 I claim my +1 MLG point for the last post, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 April, 2015 Author Share Posted 30 April, 2015 Oh, and this one, possibly the rarest Saints shirt of the last 25 years: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 30 April, 2015 Share Posted 30 April, 2015 Oh, and this one, possibly the rarest Saints shirt of the last 25 years Are you this exciting in real life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 April, 2015 Author Share Posted 30 April, 2015 Are you this exciting in real life? Hell yes. They only made 3 of those grey ones to go with the yellow away kit at Newcastle, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 30 April, 2015 Share Posted 30 April, 2015 our yellow and blue always look for Torquay than brazil. /QUOTE] Just looks like a Saints away kit to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorski Posted 30 April, 2015 Share Posted 30 April, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 April, 2015 Author Share Posted 30 April, 2015 Yeah, those are the photoshops produced by Footyheadlines.com the day the leak came out. Already lengthily discussed on this thread - to the extent that I can tell you the collar on the home shirt is wrong (because it isn't the same as the leak). Based on the basic templates and all the other adidas kits already released in these styles, I assume the home kit has mesh on the collar, just like the away kit probably does on cuffs and hem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 April, 2015 Author Share Posted 30 April, 2015 (edited) In unrelated news, I'm pretty sure the leaked Chelsea "Yokohama" shirts are fakes (a 2014 adidas design with the new sponsor slapped on it), whilst the older "Turkish Airlines" ones are based on the legit style (2015 adidas design samples with potential sponsors on before the new sponsorship was agreed) - even though the correct sponsors are Yokohama. These: derive from this But not this, which is just last year's style with the new sponsor on: We shall see though, Chelsea have had some fairly convincing fakes before if you're not paying attention. And sites like this http://www.edpsoccerjersey.net/chelsea-c-2_3_12.html making knock-off stuff based on leaks alone (they have BOTH styles listed) don't help matters. Also interesting to note that they have Saints unbranded shirts from this season, though I'm not prepared to invest the $16.88 to find out how badly made these are. Edited 30 April, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 April, 2015 Author Share Posted 30 April, 2015 Cos, y'know, anyone can stick a badge and a sponsor on an old shirt style (Bosnia's 2014 World Cup kit): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 April, 2015 Author Share Posted 30 April, 2015 (edited) Do find it very odd massive clubs just get recycled templates when so much money is spent on unique branding elsewhere. I remember Man Utd having a kit with Old Trafford printed into the material, looked quite cool, and an away shirt that had the names of former players all over it. Would be nice to see more unique stuff. With several new kits every season you could commemorate a former great every season. Image of them or name subtly in the background of the shirt. The top European clubs do get an element of bespoke design, but it's very limited in execution. e.g. Bayern's new adidas shirt uses a diamond motif from the Bavaria badge which is repeated on their club badge (and actually looks like an Umbro design), but otherwise it's basically a standard adidas template. This season's Chelsea shirt has the gradated pattern that other shirts don't have. Mostly the bottom clubs get a colour-reversed teamwear design, the good national clubs get a unique design using a standard combination of templates, and the top clubs get a unique combination of templates with a slight variation to show they're special. I'm fine with uniqueness, I'm not fine with exploitation, which is what more than 3 shirts a season, or producing not-special "special" kits is is. Stuff like the German "Christmas" kits annoy me. I'm fine with Saints having 3 shirts (though we can't actually buy one of them), no-one is making me buy them. Edited 30 April, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 30 April, 2015 Share Posted 30 April, 2015 I quite like that green away kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 April, 2015 Author Share Posted 30 April, 2015 I quite like that green away kit. Me too. Makes a nice change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 30 April, 2015 Share Posted 30 April, 2015 I quite like that green away kit. Yep....looks really nice. I'd even make a purchase. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 4 May, 2015 Share Posted 4 May, 2015 Yellow/Blue is just so f*cking boring now, any colour scheme that is different on the away shirt I welcome with open arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 4 May, 2015 Share Posted 4 May, 2015 Yellow/Blue is just so f*cking boring now, any colour scheme that is different on the away shirt I welcome with open arms. Agree, it's been done to death, and worn by just about every team at some stage where needed as an away kit (just add that to stop some pedant telling us neither Norwich or Watford have used it as an away kit),and it has become a yawn. That said, I have liked some of the variations, such as the L1 navy with yellow top section,but yellow shirts, blue shorts - no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 May, 2015 Share Posted 4 May, 2015 Agree, it's been done to death, and worn by just about every team at some stage where needed as an away kit (just add that to stop some pedant telling us neither Norwich or Watford have used it as an away kit),and it has become a yawn. That said, I have liked some of the variations, such as the L1 navy with yellow top section,but yellow shirts, blue shorts - no thanks. I can only think of one or two out of the current PL that tend to have yellow and blue away kits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyOldBoy Posted 4 May, 2015 Share Posted 4 May, 2015 Hm.... anyone seen Stokes new kit ? co-incidence of evidence that our kit "leak" is a mistake.... !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 May, 2015 Author Share Posted 4 May, 2015 Hm.... anyone seen Stokes new kit ? co-incidence of evidence that our kit "leak" is a mistake.... !? Already mentioned in the thread, it's opposite colours, not Adidas and the diagonal doesn't even go the same way. The leak back in March was far too authentic not to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 May, 2015 Author Share Posted 4 May, 2015 I can only think of one or two out of the current PL that tend to have yellow and blue away kits? There are quite a few off the top of my head... Arsenal have a yellow with blue most seasons Chelsea around every other year Palace pretty much every other year if not more often Spurs have a yellow away shirt with blue or black practically every year. Everton do probably one in three seasons Stoke maybe once every 5 years Plus Liverpool tend to have a yellow/red more often than not and West Brom go yellow with green in probably 1/3 of seasons. Man City haven't, Man United haven't for ages, Sunderland don't, Newcastle haven't had many at all, Villa have had few yellow kits (maybe one every 10 years), I can't think of a yellow West Ham shirt, Swansea haven't, Hull probably wouldn't due to the home kit, and after that we're into a lot of teams who may or may not be in the division. Burnley have had yellow but don't often, Cardiff usually have yellow/blue as a traditional away kit once they dump the red altogether... Norwich wear it at home. And so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 4 May, 2015 Share Posted 4 May, 2015 What would people say our traditional away colours were? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 4 May, 2015 Share Posted 4 May, 2015 What would people say our traditional away colours were? Predominantly yellow with blue trim. Not adverse to something a bit different now and then in the away kit though, it does allow for the odd excellent one offs such as the Black Adidas away shirt we had a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 4 May, 2015 Share Posted 4 May, 2015 What would people say our traditional away colours were? Amber and black. Yellow and blue was a 1970's variation on it , and fashion that we adopted (following Everton, Chelsea, Man U, etc having all worn it in the preceeding couple of seasons). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 May, 2015 Share Posted 4 May, 2015 There are quite a few off the top of my head... Arsenal have a yellow with blue most seasons Chelsea around every other year Palace pretty much every other year if not more often Spurs have a yellow away shirt with blue or black practically every year. Everton do probably one in three seasons Stoke maybe once every 5 years Plus Liverpool tend to have a yellow/red more often than not and West Brom go yellow with green in probably 1/3 of seasons. Man City haven't, Man United haven't for ages, Sunderland don't, Newcastle haven't had many at all, Villa have had few yellow kits (maybe one every 10 years), I can't think of a yellow West Ham shirt, Swansea haven't, Hull probably wouldn't due to the home kit, and after that we're into a lot of teams who may or may not be in the division. Burnley have had yellow but don't often, Cardiff usually have yellow/blue as a traditional away kit once they dump the red altogether... Norwich wear it at home. And so on. Spurs don't have a yellow away shirt every year, neither do Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 4 May, 2015 Share Posted 4 May, 2015 Amber and black. Yellow and blue was a 1970's variation on it , and fashion that we adopted (following Everton, Chelsea, Man U, etc having all worn it in the preceeding couple of seasons). And that only started in 1963's Cup run. it was all white prior to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenilworthy Posted 4 May, 2015 Share Posted 4 May, 2015 And that only started in 1963's Cup run. it was all white prior to that. The amber and black started in 1951 for a cup game against Sunderland. The shirts were borrowed from the Hampshire Regiment. Since they continued to 1971 that is one of the longest standing away combinations we have used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 May, 2015 Author Share Posted 5 May, 2015 (edited) Spurs don't have a yellow away shirt every year, neither do Arsenal. Spurs have a yellow away/3rd shirt "practically every year", Arsenal "most seasons". Which is what I said. If you like I can post endless pics of the loads of their away shirts and seasons, but I already know it's the case. I'd say yellow and blue was now Saints' traditional away colours, seeing as I've never seen them play in amber and black and everything prior to 1976 is basically shades of black and white. Edited 5 May, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 5 May, 2015 Share Posted 5 May, 2015 Spurs have a yellow away shirt "practically every year", Arsenal "most seasons". Which is what I said. If you like I can post endless pics of the loads of their away shirts and seasons, but I already know it's the case. I'd say yellow and blue was now Saints' traditional away colours, seeing as I've never seen them play in amber and black and everything prior to 1976 is basically shades of black and white. Spurs last four away kits haven't been Yellow and blue, Arsenall only two out of the last four years I think. I guess some of us just know a lot about football kits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 May, 2015 Author Share Posted 5 May, 2015 (edited) Ah balls to it. Spurs yellow away or third kits since 1969 when they adopted yellow regularly (colours are indicative, "yellow" used when any shirt was yellow, blue used for the years yellow was not used): 1969/70 1970/71 1971/72 1972/73 1973/74 1974/75 1975/76 1976/77 1977/78 1978/79 1979/80 1980/81 1981/82 1982/83 1983/84 1984/85 1985/86 1986/87 1987/88 1988/89 1989/90 1990/91 1991/92 1992/93 1993/94 1994/95 1995/96 1996/97 1997/98 1998/99 1999/2000 2000/01 2001/02 2002/03 2003/04 2004/05 2005/06 2006/07 2007/08 2008/09 2009/10 2010/11 2011/12 2012/13 2013/14 2014/15 So actually, they've just gone 4 years without a yellow away kit, which is the longest since 1969, and they've had yellow change shirts in 30 of the past 45 seasons. Edited 5 May, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 May, 2015 Author Share Posted 5 May, 2015 Worth noting I was putting that together before I saw your reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 5 May, 2015 Share Posted 5 May, 2015 Ah balls to it. Spurs yellow away or third kits since 1969 when they adopted yellow regularly (colours are indicative, "yellow" used when any shirt was yellow, blue used for the years yellow was not used): 1969/70 1970/71 1971/72 1972/73 1973/74 1974/75 1975/76 1976/77 1977/78 1978/79 1979/80 1980/81 1981/82 1982/83 1983/84 1984/85 1985/86 1986/87 1987/88 1988/89 1989/90 1990/91 1991/92 1992/93 1993/94 1994/95 1995/96 1996/97 1997/98 1998/99 1999/2000 2000/01 2001/02 2002/03 2003/04 2004/05 2005/06 2006/07 2007/08 2008/09 2009/10 2010/11 2011/12 2012/13 2013/14 2014/15 So actually, they've just gone 4 years without a yellow away kit, which is the longest since 1969, and they've had yellow change shirts in 30 of the past 45 seasons. So as I said, Spurs do not have a yellow away shirt practically every year, 5 years on the trot without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 May, 2015 Author Share Posted 5 May, 2015 (edited) Spurs last four away kits haven't been Yellow and blue, Arsenall only two out of the last four years I think. I guess some of us just know a lot about football kits Oh, and Arsenal: 1968-1982 then the green/blue thing for one season 1983-2001 (inc 1994/6 when they had a yellow third they only used twice) 2001-3 they had a gold shirt instead of yellow 2003/4 2005-7 2008/9 2010-12 2013-15. They've actually only NOT had a yellow change shirt in one season since 2009/10. Edited 5 May, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 May, 2015 Author Share Posted 5 May, 2015 So as I said, Spurs do not have a yellow away shirt practically every year, 5 years on the trot without it. They have one at the moment, and haven't gone 5 years without one since 1969. They've had a yellow shirt 3 of every 4 years over the past 45 years. Plus 7/10 seasons during the first decade of the millennium. That's "practically every year" to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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