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Koeman: "No injuries to players reporting back from international duty"

 

Koeman: "Another 7 or 8 weeks before JRod will be back to full training"

 

Koeman: "There is no chance to move out of this club. They will have to wait for me" (re: managing the Dutch national side)

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doddisalegend

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Just to start the traditional weekly panic: any sign of Schneiderlin in the training videos, I couldnt see him in the photos?

 

Koeman: "No injuries to players reporting back from international duty"

 

So If Morgan isn't in the squad I guess he has been dropped on form :p

trousers

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http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/29646873

 

Southampton did not reach their usual high standards when they lost to Tottenham last time out.

 

It was still a close enough game but, in terms of creating chances, it was probably the worst that Saints have played all season.

 

Sunderland, meanwhile, picked up their first league win of the season against Stoke and saw two of their strikers - Connor Wickham and Steven Fletcher get on the scoresheet.

 

That was a big boost for a Black Cats team that has been badly short of goals and the challenge now for manager Gus Poyet is to get other members of his team chipping in on a regular basis, because neither Wickham or Fletcher are 15-20 goals a season men.

 

He also needs to keep both front-men firing, but I am not sure either striker will find it so easy on Saturday.

 

Southampton are hard to break down and I think both sides will have to settle for a point.

 

Lawro's prediction: 1-1

VectisSaint

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Any news on Mane? He could be the one to help unlock a resilient black cats defence.

Back to 3-1 winning ways.

What news would you be looking for. Was due back this morning as planned and looked at in training today according to RK (same as Mayuka)

ecuk268

ecuk268

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Sunderland & Stoke and the prospect of rain sodden afternoons for both... and this is supposed to be fun? Cheer up it could be worse? It will be if they're both goal-less draws.

 

According to the Met Office, the rain should die out at about 1.00 and not start again till about 6.00, which should do nicely.

Window Cleaner

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Just to start the traditional weekly panic: any sign of Schneiderlin in the training videos, I couldnt see him in the photos?

 

Bit of a trek from Yerevan to Southampton, probably only got back yesterday, might not play tomorrow methinks..well, on the bench then.

The9

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Care to post SFC's record with and without him in the side. I can then make a judgement in his effectiveness.

 

Based on Soccerbase, starts only, all competitions.

 

This season

Matches with V Wanyama

W3 D1 L2

As a %: 50-17-33

(bearing in mind two of those wins were in the League Cup)

 

Matches without V Wanyama

W3 D0 L0

As a %: 100.

 

2013/14:

Matches withV Wanyama

W9 D6 L5

As a %: 45-30-25

 

Matches withoutV Wanyama

W10 D5 L9

As a %:42-21-38

 

I always thought we tended to pick him in matches where we choose to be more defensive and therefore in the matches we're more likely to lose in the first place. However...

 

Wanyama last season (grey=did not play, bold = played).

 

Man City H A

Liverpool H A

Chelsea H A

Arsenal H A

Spurs H A

Everton H A

Man U H A

 

He played in 8 matches against the top 7 and missed 6 of them, hardly a massive factor when you consider the effect of the Lovren and Boruc injuries, for instance.

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Appy

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Based on Soccerbase, starts only, all competitions.

 

This season

Matches with V Wanyama

W3 D1 L2

As a %: 50-17-33

(bearing in mind two of those wins were in the League Cup)

 

Matches without V Wanyama

W3 D0 L0

As a %: 100.

 

2013/14:

Matches withV Wanyama

W9 D6 L5

As a %: 45-30-25

 

Matches withoutV Wanyama

W10 D5 L9

As a %:42-21-38

 

I always thought we tended to pick him in matches where we choose to be more defensive and therefore in the matches we're more likely to lose in the first place. However...

 

Wanyama last season (grey=did not play, bold = played).

 

Man City H A

Liverpool H A

Chelsea H A

Arsenal H A

Spurs H A

Everton H A

Man U H A

 

He played in 8 matches against the top 7 and missed 6 of them, hardly a massive factor when you consider the effect of the Lovren and Boruc injuries, for instance.

 

At least 4 of those matches he wasn't picked, he was injured.

Saint Garrett

Saint Garrett

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We haven't beaten them in the last 8 games. Is that the longest unbeaten run any team has against us at the moment?

 

Stoke? Beaten neither since our return to the prem. but we'd never beaten QPR at St Mary's either, we won that!!

Picard

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Bit of a trek from Yerevan to Southampton, probably only got back yesterday, might not play tomorrow methinks..well, on the bench then.

 

French players played for PSG last night.

alehouseboys

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Hate playing Sunderland in weather like this. Sh*t*e!

 

One of the best games in my memory against the (they also called themselves Geordies back then) Mackems was at the Dell around '77 in conditions just like this, p*ssed down the entire match. Won 4-2, a second division game on MOTD and a lively day in the rain on the Archers terraces.

NickG

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If you say so but this season VW has started 4 out of 7 and we've lost 2 of those and drew one other. In fact I think we've only won 1 game that he's started this season.

Lacks poise and control in my view, slows us down.

 

From this- http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?50379-Wanyama-stats#.VEIc88twav0

 

"Looking at games where he played more than 45 mins (which actually takes out 3-0 victory at Fulham so could be harsh on him). He played almost exactly half the season.

 

Played 17, for 22, against 6, points 33.

 

Over season, for 49, against 13, points 74."

 

I saw Wanyama / Scneiderlin as by far our first choice partnership last season. Cork as good back up.

 

However, this season, cork has improved considerably and we play a less rigid defensive two, so Cork is less of just back up. I would choose Wanyama to start as often stops the other team single handedly leaving others to attack, but not disappointed at all if was Cork.

Such is our quality in depth now I'm happy any combination from Tadic, Long, Davis, Cork, Mane behind Pelle based on form, fitness and Koeman's tactics.

 

Davis adds a lot, plays well most games, Cork a bit less so but very good player..but as a spectator Tadic/Long/Mane is the most exciting to watch combination.

 

I would go for (obvious back 5) schneiderlin, Wanyama, Tadic, Davis, Mane, pelle with long and Cork likely to be used in 2nd half.

Window Cleaner

Window Cleaner

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According to the Mail we have conceded fewer goals than any other English league club this season, which surprised me.

 

Yep, just 5, Sunderland are joint second fewest with Chelsea and City, might not be a 5 all draw then.

Unbelievable Jeff

Unbelievable Jeff

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Sunderland are 13/2 to win. £15 on that just in case we don't pick anything up.

 

Most likely result is a low scoring or goalless draw, Sundrrland can defend and sit back well, and we have historically struggled to break down teams like this.

Dalek2003

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Sunderland are one of our bogey sides. A win would be great and more importantly help us to create a buffer of points ready for 'potentially' the hard games in December and January. Not, that I am underestimating the Black Cats.

SNSUN

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Hardest thing to decide on today is what to wear as it's quite warm out for October................. Standing by to get the piddle taken out of me now!! :D

 

You asked for it!

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Saint Garrett

Saint Garrett

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Hardest thing to decide on today is what to wear as it's quite warm out for October................. Standing by to get the piddle taken out of me now!! :D

 

20 degrees today. Might have to ditch the jumper.

Saint_Tony

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Sunderland are 13/2 to win. £15 on that just in case we don't pick anything up.

 

Most likely result is a low scoring or goalless draw, Sundrrland can defend and sit back well, and we have historically struggled to break down teams like this.

Same here, way overpriced really as it wouldn't be a massive shock, we know what we're like against Sunderland. Think we might have to settle for a tired performance. 1-1 draw

goneawol

goneawol

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Southampton FC @SouthamptonFC · 10 mins 10 minutes ago

 

Ronald Koeman speaking ahead of today's game: "We've made a couple of changes because of the international break."

igsey

igsey

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Called it ;)

 

Good to see Cork in, I don't think we need Big Vic's shielding abilities against Sunderland, better to have Cork's passing and movement. Should be good! 3-0 saints.

trousers

trousers

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Hope we come out of the traps quickly and are crusing 2-0 at half time as I'd like to see Reed given some game time but I don't think that'll happen if its a close game

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