Fitzhugh Fella Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 An insightful article full of new information which all adds up. For my part I still have two nagging concerns. I still don't understand why the club have said there is no rush to offer Cork a new contract and I am concerned that Jay Rod in not signing a new contract intends to see out his present one and move on. But from where we were at the beginning of the summer we have progressed way beyond my expectations and those responsible Reed, Krueger, Koeman etc deserve a big pat on the back.
moonraker Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 "The core reason is that the club's methods and intellectual property are not concentrated in any individual." Good. Very healthy for the future as well, not replying on individuals. Possibly also something NC was not happy with. mainly though it and the "Les reed waste of space" thread show that 99% of the posters on internet forums really do not know at all what they are talking about, including the supposed ITKs. And best left that way It also shows that 99% of journos and pundits don't what they are talking about, they universally predicted the end!
adrian lord Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 I like that the club does an MI5 type background check on future signings - character and personality are just as important in a team game as technical and physical prowess. They boobed with Danny O and to a certain extent with Gaston, but on the whole have got it spot on. This is why the new lads 'gelled' instantly.
Dalek2003 Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Darlek Tell me - would you be happier if we went down and you could say 'told you so...' Or won the league and said ' I was wrong..' Because u and a few others really confuse me as to if u even like saints or not....? I would be delighted if I have to say 'I was wrong'. All this talking us up is setting us up for a 'fall'. The media are very fickle.
rallyboy Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Good and balanced article. So Poch assured his new bosses that he could solve their midfield problems for £10M because of a release clause that his former Chairman had told him about? He must have looked a right tit the day that offer was laughed out of town! Was that Cortese's final parting gift to us? Thanks Nicola, it made us chuckle.
Dig Dig Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 I like that the club does an MI5 type background check on future signings - character and personality are just as important in a team game as technical and physical prowess. They boobed with Danny O and to a certain extent with Gaston, but on the whole have got it spot on. This is why the new lads 'gelled' instantly. I recall Reed talking about how Lovren went through one of the most detailed and comprehensive scouting process in football history. They must have missed the small detail about him being a disloyal ****! But obviously on average and over time, we will get more right than wrong if we keep it up.
Supersubpuckett Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 For once a decent and balanced piece of journalism - makes a difference when more than one source of information is used. Hopefully all this positive coverage isn't the prelude to a humping at spuds!
benjii Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 I recall Reed talking about how Lovren went through one of the most detailed and comprehensive scouting process in football history. They must have missed the small detail about him being a disloyal ****! But obviously on average and over time, we will get more right than wrong if we keep it up. And it can hardly be said Lovren was a bad signing. He played well and was sold for 150% profit. Osvaldo though....
Convict Colony Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 I like that the club does an MI5 type background check on future signings - character and personality are just as important in a team game as technical and physical prowess. They boobed with Danny O and to a certain extent with Gaston, but on the whole have got it spot on. This is why the new lads 'gelled' instantly. This is a massive thing in the aussie rules, they spend ages finding out what type of person a potential draftee is before going for them. I was most impressed with the linkage with Oxford uni on the study of hammys etc, sounds like a good idea.
Lazlo78 Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 "The core reason is that the club's methods and intellectual property are not concentrated in any individual." Good. Very healthy for the future as well, not replying on individuals. Possibly also something NC was not happy with. mainly though it and the "Les reed waste of space" thread show that 99% of the posters on internet forums really do not know at all what they are talking about, including the supposed ITKs. And best left that way Amen! (Yes, I include myself in the 99%)
OldNick Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 I prefer Crab Lungs more thorough analysis of the mess we are in. I mean, Lallana never got his phone calls returned or nuffink. Interesting no mention that a few plebs moaning on an Internet forum was the real reason Morgan wasn't sold. Clearly an oversight by the clueless journalist. Lastly, I think it has been agreed by the forum brains trust that Koeman was just a lucky punt by dopey old Les Reed. Pure lucky luck luck. Disappointed this article doesn't acknowledge this when OldNick has told us all that this is indeed the case. Funny how an article that is positive is taken as the real deal. All is 100% true apparently. Again you intentionally twist what I said, I said we were lucky that Koeman was available, if he had been tied to a contract there is no way we would have approached him. It would be great to have known what else was on the list Malky Mackay apparently Did Lovren leave after Chambers, I can't recall?
OldNick Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Funny how an article that is positive is taken as the real deal. All is 100% true apparently. Again you intentionally twist what I said, I said we were lucky that Koeman was available, if he had been tied to a contract there is no way we would have approached him. It would be great to have known what else was on the list Malky Mackay apparently Did Lovren leave after Chambers, I can't recall? If you hate this forum and the contributors so much why do you bother to post on here? An excellent article. Enjoyed reading that . CB is still smarting from being torn to pieces by SaintBletch.
shurlock Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Decent piece with plenty of new facts, though clearly most of the material is sourced from the club, so doesn't give the full picture in important respects.
Verbal Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 It would be great to have known what else was on the list Malky Mackay apparently Are you sure?
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Funny how an article that is positive is taken as the real deal. All is 100% true apparently. Again you intentionally twist what I said, I said we were lucky that Koeman was available, if he had been tied to a contract there is no way we would have approached him. It would be great to have known what else was on the list Malky Mackay apparently Did Lovren leave after Chambers, I can't recall? I suspect there were others apart from Koeman who had been earmarked. Just in case, like.
andoru Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Reporter: How are you enjoying your first season at Liverpool, Adam? Lallana: I'm lovin' it. The club should start selling "Lallana burgers", and when Liverpool come down, we need a burger-themed chant ready.
CB Fry Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Funny how an article that is positive is taken as the real deal. All is 100% true apparently. Again you intentionally twist what I said, I said we were lucky that Koeman was available, if he had been tied to a contract there is no way we would have approached him. It would be great to have known what else was on the list Malky Mackay apparently Did Lovren leave after Chambers, I can't recall? Except the only person twisting stuff is you. "Lucky he was available" is a meaningless "twist" by you on the appointment of our new manager by the club. How was Koeman's appointment demonstrably more "lucky" than the appointment of any other manager by any other club in the history of football? I've asked you to answer that before but you didn't and I am sure you won't this time. You deride it as lucky because you don't want to give any credit our current regime.
pap Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Reporter: How are you enjoying your first season at Liverpool, Adam? Lallana: I'm lovin' it. The club should start selling "Lallana burgers", and when Liverpool come down, we need a burger-themed chant ready. Easy, innit? Flips like a burger He fkn flips like a burger Flips like a bur-ger He fkn flips like a bur-ger
John B Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 What really has interested me in the whole saga is that people have been so ready to insult the people running the club and disbelieving what they said.
Highfield Saint Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Lallana flipped like a burger haha We March On!
Turkish Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Reporter: How are you enjoying your first season at Liverpool, Adam? Lallana: I'm lovin' it. The club should start selling "Lallana burgers", and when Liverpool come down, we need a burger-themed chant ready. He flipped on the left He flipped on the right Adam Lallana Makes Burger King look sh* te
VectisSaint Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 I said we were lucky that Koeman was available, Was it luck? There was a reason why Koeman made himself available. I don't pretend to be ITK, but suspect he had been sounded out already, not just by us, and was determined to make himslef available for a new challenge at a higher level than his much-loved Feyenoord.
tpbury Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Well, it's certainly an interesting article, but may only be 'good' because it portrays the club in a very positive light, no doubt because the club is a source of all the new info. I do hope it's true. Also, it's good to see some posters (including myself) coming from under the covers to post on the main board. When it's all negative, it gets a bit intimidating to post an opinion when you're not ITK.
Gemmel Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 I was told of a meeting with Poch and the execs (before he left) Where poch left St Mary's absolutely incandescent and spiiting nails. At the time I assumed we had just refused Tottenham permission to speak to him,.... Now I would like to think that was the moment he was told it would personally cost him two million quid.:lol::lol: You can imagine levy telling him to just resign, to avoid any compensation, but it does show (As do other parts of the article) how thorough Cortese was in all aspects of the club, to have included that little clause. Another titbit I took from the article was Coretse's salary from his final year being published. That will probably wind him up a bit. When the first set of audited accounts (from Coretses tenure) were published, rumour has it, he "flipped like a burger" when the "Highest Paid Director" was listed as a line item - The fact this is a legal requirement makes it all the more amusing, if it is actually true.
krissyboy31 Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Jeremy Wilson does seem to be too informed and well educated to be a journo! He was telling the story on "Sunday Supplement" last week but you got the impression that Ashton and the rest of his cronies didn't really want to listen because it doesn't fit with their agenda. Interesting that he says they've already identified their next transfer targets.
the_emu Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Decent piece with plenty of new facts, though clearly most of the material is sourced from the club, so doesn't give the full picture in important respects. This is just another puff piece with recycled news, and I'm (going to get vilified for saying this) starting to tire of them a bit. What I would really love is an investigator to really probe the lead up to the exodus, starting with Judas. There's a lot of innuendos and deductions about him tipping off the players he was gone well before he had time to decide, basically hanging saints out to dry
Saint_John Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Interesting that the article says that on May 26 he said he was not going to Spurs By the meeting of May 26, he was finally ready. He wanted to leave. Pochettino was asked again about Tottenham. He reiterated that he was not intending to join Tottenham. Yet there was that twitter picture of him at Spurs training ground 3 days before (May 23rd) Surely he (and his agent) must have known that picture was doing the rounds.
stevegrant Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 It would be great to have known what else was on the list Malky Mackay apparently You've just made that up, haven't you?
DuncanRG Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Jeremy Wilson does seem to be too informed and well educated to be a journo! He was telling the story on "Sunday Supplement" last week but you got the impression that Ashton and the rest of his cronies didn't really want to listen because it doesn't fit with their agenda. Interesting that he says they've already identified their next transfer targets. What's their agenda?
VectisSaint Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Interesting that the article says that on May 26 he said he was not going to Spurs Yet there was that twitter picture of him at Spurs training ground 3 days before (May 23rd) Surely he (and his agent) must have known that picture was doing the rounds. Except it wasn't Spuds training ground.
pap Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Is it still answers on a tweet Pap? I've decided to run the competition in many arenas. @DeppoInExile has got close, but didn't actually nail the exact reason.
View From The Top Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Confused? He only has one line and is a tedious boring fckwit. Where's teh confusion? True story.
Saint_clark Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Except it wasn't Spuds training ground. Where was it then?
View From The Top Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 CB is still smarting from being torn to pieces by SaintBletch. All SaintBletch did was be more sarcastic than Fry. If you think that's being "torn to pieces" then you're even more clueless than I thought.
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 I was told of a meeting with Poch and the execs (before he left) Where poch left St Mary's absolutely incandescent and spiiting nails. At the time I assumed we had just refused Tottenham permission to speak to him,.... Now I would like to think that was the moment he was told it would personally cost him two million quid.:lol::lol: You can imagine levy telling him to just resign, to avoid any compensation, but it does show (As do other parts of the article) how thorough Cortese was in all aspects of the club, to have included that little clause. Another titbit I took from the article was Coretse's salary from his final year being published. That will probably wind him up a bit. When the first set of audited accounts (from Coretses tenure) were published, rumour has it, he "flipped like a burger" when the "Highest Paid Director" was listed as a line item - The fact this is a legal requirement makes it all the more amusing, if it is actually true. I can't see how it matters who pays his compensation. The only difference could be a matter of possible income tax but surely any payment would eventually come from Tottenham.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Which is the odd one out? 3 flip except for the burger which gets flipped?
Toadhall Saint Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 What really has interested me in the whole saga is that people have been so ready to insult the people running the club and disbelieving what they said. Agreed - not given a chance.
krissyboy31 Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 What's their agenda? Ashton can't wait to discredit the club and everybody involved with it, at any opportunity.
Toadhall Saint Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Good article, some very interesting stuff regarding offers and contracts etc that I didn't know. Personally I think he must have had a chat with Mr Reed recently- who seems to have put the record straight on a few things. If not Reed then someone inside the club. All IMHO
John B Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Jeremy Wilson does seem to be too informed and well educated to be a journo! He was telling the story on "Sunday Supplement" last week but you got the impression that Ashton and the rest of his cronies didn't really want to listen because it doesn't fit with their agenda. Interesting that he says they've already identified their next transfer targets. What agenda?
VectisSaint Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Where was it then? Somewhere else. Read the comments on the tweet, I wouldn't know Spuds training ground from a waste recycling centre, but others who saw it clearly were more informed.
pap Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 3 flip except for the burger which gets flipped? Three are flippable. One doesn't flip itself, but flips others.
pap Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Boom! Close enough. What's the prize? Odd one out or you get nowt. Top prize is a barrel of Lallana loyalty.
pap Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 Does it come with a pinch of salt? Not only that, but it'll kiss your badge.
Lorne Malvo Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 I'm still convinced Osvaldo and Gaston were signed because NC wanted them, rather than coming through our in depth 'scouting' system.
View From The Top Posted 4 October, 2014 Posted 4 October, 2014 I'm still convinced Osvaldo and Gaston were signed because NC wanted them, rather than coming through our in depth 'scouting' system. No shiit Sherlock.
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