stevegrant Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 Portuguese journalists are reporting that Jose Fonte is included in a 40-man preliminary list of potential call-ups for the new Portugal national team coach Fernando Santos. About bloody time he got some recognition, it seems the previous coach Paulo Bento hadn't even heard of him when questioned last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 Great news, it is about time his hard work has been recognised. Maybe being captain of a team sat 2nd in the prem makes people stand up and take notice even if we're not in the Champs league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benali Saint Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 Jose Fonte deserves a chance. Really improved over the last few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/selecao-selecao-nacional-portugal-internacional-made-in-fernando-santos-manuel-fernandes-danny-tiago/542944860cf263a23c7e9c0b.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 About time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 29 September, 2014 Author Share Posted 29 September, 2014 Great news, it is about time his hard work has been recognised. Maybe being captain of a team sat 2nd in the prem makes people stand up and take notice even if we're not in the Champs league. It's also possible that Fonte's choice of agent may have influenced his lack of recognition under the previous coach. The vast majority of their World Cup squad had the same agent - Jorge Mendes. As did the coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 Give it a few weeks and we could have 4 international centre-backs in our squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 It's also possible that Fonte's choice of agent may have influenced his lack of recognition under the previous coach. The vast majority of their World Cup squad had the same agent - Jorge Mendes. As did the coach. That's interesting, and a bit odd. Managers having same agents as footballers always struck me as a bit dodgy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 About time! That Jorge Mendes link though, explains why he was known to always pick the same players all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 29 September, 2014 Author Share Posted 29 September, 2014 That's interesting, and a bit odd. Managers having same agents as footballers always struck me as a bit dodgy. There are conflicts of interests at all levels of the game, to be fair. It's only really the last few years where such blatant ones have been seen, such as Cardiff signing a billion players from Norway who share Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's agent, Sam Allardyce and Kevin Nolan putting pressure on Ravel Morrison to switch to their agent (for which they would have received a commission), etc. The murky world is getting murkier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 Fair play to Jose, every time his position in the team looks to be under threat from players coming in like Lovren being bought to partner right centre back Yoshida last season, Jose has upped his game, now we have Toby who natural position is right centre back playing in the left spot preferred by Gardos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 i dont understand us as fans wanting our players to go to international duty. More games, more likelyhood of injuries and a very good chance the will be tapped up by players/agents of the big clubs. Ok for Jose its great, but for us fans? its much better they stay under the radar IMo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 I've said it two or three times now, but Jose is like our new Claus. He went through numerous partners, all of whom were supposedly the better player, and certainly got more plaudits and recognition and ultimately transfers elsewhere... but all were made to look a lot better because of their partnership with Claus. Jose is the same - although also actually a better player than Claus IMO - and his relationships on and off the field are a key part of our success. He thoroughly deserves a call-up and I hope he makes it into any final squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 i dont understand us as fans wanting our players to go to international duty. More games, more likelyhood of injuries and a very good chance the will be tapped up by players/agents of the big clubs. Ok for Jose its great, but for us fans? its much better they stay under the radar IMo Not really, most become better or at least more complete players with a bit of international experience, airheads who listen to others about pay and conditions apart of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 i dont understand us as fans wanting our players to go to international duty. More games, more likelyhood of injuries and a very good chance the will be tapped up by players/agents of the big clubs. Ok for Jose its great, but for us fans? its much better they stay under the radar IMo Alternatively if a player thinks being here will hamper his chance of international recognition (see Morgan's explanation for his stroppy) it can only hurt us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 i dont understand us as fans wanting our players to go to international duty. More games, more likelyhood of injuries and a very good chance the will be tapped up by players/agents of the big clubs. Ok for Jose its great, but for us fans? its much better they stay under the radar IMo Not really, most become better or at least more complete players with a bit of international experience, airheads who listen to others about pay and conditions apart of course. I think it can go both ways. Not saying this would necessarily be the case of Fonte, but it seems perfectly plausible that if a player had serious ambitions to play in the national squad then if they aren't getting in the squad at Saints, they may well seek pastures new to improve their chances of doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 Alternatively if a player thinks being here will hamper his chance of international recognition (see Morgan's explanation for his stroppy) it can only hurt us. Dammit, beat me to the same point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 yep all valid, but when they are internationals they again are more likely to be snapped up. I also used to be keen to see Saints players in an England/international jersey, but after time and again seeing those players then leave it has made me less keen. The player will be worth more to the club in a transfer fee being an international and no doubt it will increase his wages. how it helps us as fans im not sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 29 September, 2014 Author Share Posted 29 September, 2014 yep all valid, but when they are internationals they again are more likely to be snapped up. I also used to be keen to see Saints players in an England/international jersey, but after time and again seeing those players then leave it has made me less keen. The player will be worth more to the club in a transfer fee being an international and no doubt it will increase his wages. how it helps us as fans im not sure Because it's good to see long-serving players rewarded, perhaps? Players have left us in the past because they weren't getting enough international recognition, players have left us in the past because they got recognition but felt they could play at a higher level. Both of those things will continue to happen for as long as the earth rotates. You seem to be determined to find a cloud in every silver lining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 Good news and more than deserved. Jos outperformed Jose in the NPC imo but Fonte has matured like a fine wine and has been outstanding the last couple of seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 Because it's good to see long-serving players rewarded, perhaps? Players have left us in the past because they weren't getting enough international recognition, players have left us in the past because they got recognition but felt they could play at a higher level. Both of those things will continue to happen for as long as the earth rotates. You seem to be determined to find a cloud in every silver lining.that's me Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 Clearly it is better for our players to get call ups and recognition. The downside is they could get injured , and might have their heads turned, but that is still better than them wanting to leave to a “big” club to boost their chances of an international call up. The positive side is by having international recognition we can add a premium to the cost of a player if they do insist in forcing a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 Good news and more than deserved. Jos outperformed Jose in the NPC imo but Fonte has matured like a fine wine and has been outstanding the last couple of seasons. Talking of which it's good to see big Jos flying high in the NPC yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 (edited) Alternatively if a player thinks being here will hamper his chance of international recognition (see Morgan's explanation for his stroppy) it can only hurt us. Exactly. If you look at the bigger picture, we want it to become the norm that being a Saints player and getting international recognition go hand in hand, great place for up and coming young players etc. It affects how the club is perceived. Edited 29 September, 2014 by Sour Mash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 Probably too late, tournament not for 2 years. Daft of them, their defence was awful at the World Cup. Pepe is just a disaster waiting to happen. Fonte really would have done well for them. Amazing how well he's done the past few years. Must be one of our best ever signings. Yep, and the fact he dropped from the Championship to League 1 to be with us showed great foresight on his behalf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 Alternatively if a player thinks being here will hamper his chance of international recognition (see Morgan's explanation for his stroppy) it can only hurt us. So basically we're damned if they do play for their country, and damned if they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 i dont understand us as fans wanting our players to go to international duty. More games, more likelyhood of injuries and a very good chance the will be tapped up by players/agents of the big clubs. Ok for Jose its great, but for us fans? its much better they stay under the radar IMo You said it - it's great for Jose. And most of us want him to achieve his dreams as he's been such a great servant for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 Paulo Bento is a bellend so no surprise he was over looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Abroad Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 Paulo Bento is a bellend so no surprise he was over looked. Very much so. Portugal need someone like Jose, aka someone that actually wants to be there. Força Portugal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 Any chance he might tap Ronaldo up while he's there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 I've said it two or three times now, but Jose is like our new Claus. He went through numerous partners, all of whom were supposedly the better player, and certainly got more plaudits and recognition and ultimately transfers elsewhere... but all were made to look a lot better because of their partnership with Claus. Jose is the same - although also actually a better player than Claus IMO - and his relationships on and off the field are a key part of our success. He thoroughly deserves a call-up and I hope he makes it into any final squad. well said Minty - agree 100% with both statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 29 September, 2014 Share Posted 29 September, 2014 And about time too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 When is their squad announced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 When is their squad announced? Later today IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 When is their squad announced? Later today IIRC Tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Tomorrow. I know nuffink guv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rees Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 He's in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Great news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingdomCome Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Very pleased for him, certainly earned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/11513454.Fonte_earns_first_Portugal_call_up/?ref=fbpg Well done Jose, thoroughly deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Great news! And about time! He's come a long way with us, so to get called up to the national team, whilst Captain of Saints is superb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Made up for him.Great player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrich van Gobbel Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Fantastic news.. I'm genuinely so happy for him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurichsaint Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Fantastic news. Absolutely delighted for the guy. Made my day, that has! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 He stands at over 6 foot 3, Jose Jose He took us to the Premier League, Jose Jose He gets the ball without a foul He wears the shirt of Ken Monkou Jose Fonte Southampton's centre back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Bet he's glad he didn't go to Cardiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Richly deserved by Jose and they might have done better last summer had he played in their group games. Incredible to think there were posters (a small but vocal minority) on this board who thought he wasn't good enough for PL football. He's been an inspiration through a turbulent summer and no surprise that MP allegedly turned to him when succeeding Nigel. Like Kelvin Davis, Jose is a cornerstone of SFC and couldn't be more delighted for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Bet he's glad he didn't go to Cardiff. That was never even a possibility IMO - Cardiff had ideas way above their station with that one. Anyway, yet another call-up for a player who has remained, relatively speaking, loyal to Southampton. Thoroughly chuffed for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Great news, a good reward for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Portugal's central defenders... Pepe - (Real Madrid) Ricardo Carvalho - (AS Monaco) Bruno Alves - (Fenerbaçhe) José Fonte - (Southampton) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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