Richard Chorley.... who?

[sadoldgit]

What happened to all the Anthony Salz talk? I guess he has better things to do with his time

 

Probably. All of these so called white knights can't be seen for dust.

 

Lowe was right when he made the comment about putting money into foootball as being akin to burning cash.

[um pahars]

Whether Lowe's time here is spent or not (and after the vote I doubt that for now) what is the alternative?

 

I was questioning your belief as to whether you think he is spent or not.

 

I am acutely aware that a handful of men have put their loyalty to each other ahead of their loyalty to our Club and that until they waiver we are stuck with Lowe.

 

So do you think Lowe should step down?

 

Neither Wilde nor Crouch have covered themselves in glory and apart from Cowen, who esle is around right now worth a punt?

 

Along with Lowe, I wouldn't have Crouch nor Wilde in any day to day capacity at the Club.

 

As long as they have their shareholdings, they may be hard to shift from having some influence (but that's another debate), but as for Chairman of the PLC and CEO, then something has to be done. I don't have all the answers (and never have claimed to), but this charade cannot continue.

 

As an interim, Lowe should step down from both positions immediately, Cowen take the reigns as temporary CEO reigns and someone else as temporary Chairman (Wiseman, Richards, Stuart Green, just someone who is not so divisive).

 

Then the search for long term replacements for both roles should be undertaken.

[archstanton]

 

Most people I know think Lowe is doing the best he can in an impossible situation.

 

 

 

Most people I know would string up Lowe from the Itchen Bridge

 

Guess we must mix in different social circles.

[sadoldgit]

Lowe will not be spent as long as teh financial backers think he is the right man for the job.

 

AS for whether I think he SHOULD step down...I don't think it will make any difference to our plight right now and out of the current bunch available I would stick with Lowe and Cowen unless we ever get our sugar daddy.

 

I am more concerned with JP and his ability to scrape enough points together to avoid relegation. I would love to have a manager here for three solid seasons at least but I don't see Jan showing any signs of learning any lessons about how to win CCC football matches.

 

Our immediate concern is to get points on the board. I think that situation will only change if something is done at the football management level.

[INFLUENCED.COM]

I dont know what he has achieved by "tossing" coins at rupert...

 

Headlines, threads started about him etc... is it negative publicity for him ? the OS article on the matter is a nonsense imo, if a person is banned then communicate direct with that individual, others who have banning orders have not had such an article so why is he different ? why is he being treated differently ? as much as he played into Lowes hands by his actions equally they have played into his further propelling his position as a spokesperson, I, like many others no doubt, have never met Rich Chorley but I have read with interest his posts and respect his views on our club, I do not believe for a moment his intent was to harm Lowe physically, that would have been inexcusable, it was just gimmickry.

If he were able to control his emotions he could be so much more productive in creating a fans group that may be listened to and acted upon, I would like to think we all share his passion for the club but sadly an act like this allows many to prejudge him

[Mr X]

Probably. All of these so called white knights can't be seen for dust.

 

Lowe was right when he made the comment about putting money into foootball as being akin to burning cash.

 

that explains his lack of investment in our first team throughout the years

[um pahars]

Most people I know would string up Lowe from the Itchen Bridge

 

Guess we must mix in different social circles.

 

I was thinking exactly the same. I'd love an evening in whatever pub they all drink in!!!!!!!!!!!1

[70's Mike]

Lowe will not be spent as long as teh financial backers think he is the right man for the job.

 

AS for whether I think he SHOULD step down...I don't think it will make any difference to our plight right now and out of the current bunch available I would stick with Lowe and Cowen unless we ever get our sugar daddy.

 

I am more concerned with JP and his ability to scrape enough points together to avoid relegation. I would love to have a manager here for three solid seasons at least but I don't see Jan showing any signs of learning any lessons about how to win CCC football matches.

 

Our immediate concern is to get points on the board. I think that situation will only change if something is done at the football management level.

 

last paragraph sums up problem because it goes back to Lowe.

imo the financial backers do not care who does the job as long as they keep improving the figures.

To much has been made of overdraft figures, many businesses operate with overdrafts and debt and are profitable.

[paris]

I second that well done Rich.....

 

 

 

 

 

at least he had the bottle to do something about his annoyance - respect to the guy for standing true to his views and doing something about it.

 

easy to sit here and criticize

[sadoldgit]

that explains his lack of investment in our first team throughout the years

 

That's the trouble though. Money was put into the team under various managers. In hindsight we can say that the money could have been better spent, but it makes no difference now. We have what we have along with many other clubs who spent time in the Prem or old 1st Division but didn't have potloads of cash to burn either.

[sadoldgit]

last paragraph sums up problem because it goes back to Lowe.

imo the financial backers do not care who does the job as long as they keep improving the figures.

To much has been made of overdraft figures, many businesses operate with overdrafts and debt and are profitable.

 

And many buisnesses are now going down the tubes. The music chain Zavvi (who took over from Virgin) are the laters High Street name to go into administration.

 

Clubs like ours are not immune from the economic downturn.

 

Football clubs have been paying ridiculous wages for far too long and many are now going to pay the price.

[Window Cleaner]

And many buisnesses are now going down the tubes. The music chain Zavvi (who took over from Virgin) are the laters High Street name to go into administration.

 

Clubs like ours are not immune from the economic downturn.

 

Football clubs have been paying ridiculous wages for far too long and many are now going to pay the price.

 

 

yep in the UK when there's no credit there's no sustainable life form.

How did you all get into that mess?

Woolies I can understand, out of date, haven't moved with the times but

an "entertainment store" chain. Young people (and not so young) have always bought discs,cassettes and videos. If they've stopped it means that the insular world is that is the British Isles is about to end.

[up and away]

Richard Chorley has been banned from St Mary's for chucking coins at Rupert. Always thought he was a thug. Just proves the point. What sort of idiot does that at an AGM?

 

But can someone please just remind me who this Chorley character is? Doesn't he have something to do with a splinter fringe group of shareholders/fans? Doesn't he write loads of 'open' letters to Rupert?

 

Sad loser. Happy he has been banned from St Mary's. Doesn't matter how much you dislike duckhunter, there is a line and physical violence is not on.

 

Bye, bye Richard.

 

Nothing to get worked up about, more misplaced than anything. Just does not translate to me, could not even bother to be silver but copper. With his intended target not at the AGM, he would have been better off posting the coins to Wilde. That said, first in a long time he has added to St Marys coffers.

[Scummer]

Woolies I can understand, out of date, haven't moved with the times but

an "entertainment store" chain. Young people (and not so young) have always bought discs,cassettes and videos. If they've stopped it means that the insular world is that is the British Isles is about to end.

 

They invented this thing called the internet, perhaps you've heard of it.

[1976_Child]

 

probably a bit OTT but I bet any money that he just tossed the coins in front of him.

 

At least Richard Chorley gets of his arse in trying to highlight how this club is going down the toilet instead of just talking on an internet forum !

 

I don't want to highlight the fact that this club is going down the toilet. I'm not a negative doomsday-merchant. Instead what I do, as well as writing on this forum, is to get myself to SMS every game - and a few away ones too - and support our lads by cheering them on. Also by having my lunch in the stadium and drinking lots of beer! Supporting the lads during the games and helping - in my small way - to increase the club's bank balance.

[Window Cleaner]

Nothing to get worked up about, more misplaced than anything. Just does not translate to me, could not even bother to be silver but copper. With his intended target not at the AGM, he would have been better off posting the coins to Wilde. That said, first in a long time he has added to St Marys coffers.

 

Which shareholder was he representing anyway??

One of our local MPs perhaps.

Whatever happened to that "working party" he was putting together with MPs and City Councillors??, thinking about it it was probably they who gave him the coppers, our share of the government bail out.

[Window Cleaner]

They invented this thing called the internet, perhaps you've heard of it.

 

 

 

Nah, doesn't ring any bells.

[SaintRobbie]

Richard Chorley has been banned from St Mary's for chucking coins at Rupert. Always thought he was a thug. Just proves the point. What sort of idiot does that at an AGM?

 

But can someone please just remind me who this Chorley character is? Doesn't he have something to do with a splinter fringe group of shareholders/fans? Doesn't he write loads of 'open' letters to Rupert?

 

Sad loser. Happy he has been banned from St Mary's. Doesn't matter how much you dislike duckhunter, there is a line and physical violence is not on.

 

Bye, bye Richard.

 

********.

 

Sorry but Chorley may be a bit of an idiot but he is the only fan leader who has represented the feelings of the majority of Saints fans.

 

I am sorry but Chorley needs to be supported now. You sound like a discrediting Lowe plant and certainly not reflective of the fanbase 76 Child.

 

I admire his guts, passion and determination to bring the plight of this once proud club back into the papers.

 

Well down Richard. Now lets try and sell this club.

[Window Cleaner]

********.

 

Sorry but Chorley may be a bit of an idiot but he is the only fan leader who has represented the feelings of the majority of Saints fans.

 

I am sorry but Chorley needs to be supported now. You sound like a discrediting Lowe plant and certainly not reflective of the fanbase 76 Child.

 

I admire his guts, passion and determination to bring the plight of this once proud club back into the papers.

 

Well down Richard. Now lets try and sell this club.

 

Are you his mum???

 

Represented feelings of a majority, my ass.

[1976_Child]

********.

You sound like a discrediting Lowe plant and certainly not reflective of the fanbase 76 Child.

 

Nothing could be further from the truth. Would make my millennium to see the back of RL.

 

I wasn't at the AGM, so my knowledge of the event is down to the OS. Perhaps, if there is an alternative version, someone who was at the meeting could brief me in? I am happy to stand corrected but until i do the OS is good enough for me.

[The Rover]

...

I admire his guts, passion and determination to bring the plight of this once proud club back into the papers.

 

Well down Richard. Now lets try and sell this club.

 

I agree and I think Lowe's complete over-reaction in trying to make Richard's act comparable with that of someone throwing coins at players is despicable.

 

As I tend to take RC's side on this I am going to do the only decent thing and ban myself from buying any more tickets at St Mary's until Lowe had driven the club into administration.

 

I expect to be back later in the season.

[Daren W]

personally..i dont think he needs to manipulate FA rules...if I was in that position and some nob head (who have had dealings with in the past) acted in such a way at the meeting..I would have him banned too....

 

I have been to my faur share of games..I see you are doing your usual and turning this into a ****ssing contest....I know you have columns etc but save it mate..im clearly not as good a fan as you...

 

oh, and why does plymouth not count..? that is a kin to saying a home game does not count for those who live in southampton..

 

get back on your soap box and blame the club for your personal reasons like you seem to do

 

I'm instigating a ****ing competition???

****ing priceless, what a prize tool you are...

 

You start having a pop at Chorley's attendance at games. I'm fully entitled to ask the same question of you but I'm instigating a pssing competetion and you're just what?

 

Being a prize **** as always..

 

How typical... you lose the argument and then uber me up... lmfao

 

It's all too typical isn't it? As soon as someone mentions attendance we get chumps like Dulldays going on about "Who's the best fan"? They then drag in people who, for legitimate reasons, can’t go to games anymore, money, family, job, location etc and hide behind them trying to insinuate that if I criticise the uber online fans like Dulldays for never going to games I’m somehow slating these fans as well.

 

Forget “Who’s the best fan” and try “who contributes to the club”? Not some Plymouth based numpty who’s always found online on matchdays and only ever attends games in his neck of the woods… and has the brass nerve to mock people who won’t attend the Plymouth game… How you, of all people, can call any fan plastic is beyond me.. Effing priceless!! lmao

 

And as for the uber fan tag, let’s put that one to sleep for once and for all. I started a fanzine, I got a gig writing for the Echo. The only person making a big deal out of it is you. The “man” whose sole contribution is to mock online…

 

Whoopee flaming doo…

 

The only person here who thinks his opinion is more important is you, you with your 2,000 posts and dull, dull threads you start every single flaming day. The only one showing off is you. Find me one post, just one post where I claim to be a better fan than anyone else?

 

One post? Go on Einstein, one post where I claim to be better than anyone else, speak for anyone else?

 

You won’t, because I never do.

 

The only people who react to these perceived ****ing competitions are the likes of you, you barely attend any games. You’re the one mocking Chorley for a perceived lack of attendance, the moment someone (me) asks how many you go to and you get all prissy and defensive.

 

You're pathetic. I'm laughing at you...

 

And as for questioning why you only ever seem to go to games at Plymouth? It's one game a ****ing year Einstein. You're doing it again, trying to drag other people into your argument... "See that? That Daren Wheeler's trying to say some games don't matter?" Be a man for once, fight your own corner...

 

I go to five away games a year and until this year, every home game. You drag yourself to one game a year on your doorstep, carp on like feck about it on the post match thread and give us the gospel according to Dulldays for every other game.

 

And if you want to go on about my “personal reasons" sailor boy, I'll say the same to you as I said to Sundance. I have my peronal reason why I go game by game now instead of renewing my season ticket. You mock that reason then you do that to my ****ing face. How about sometime at St Marys? Say it to my face rather than online sailorboy. Oops, fat chance of that eh? Actually getting to game beyond Devon or Cornwall...

 

Get back to being an “online personality” and leave Rich Chorley alone...

[aintforever]

I don't think what Chorley did was particularly clever, apart from the fact that it got press attention.

 

All these *****s that line up to have a go at Chorley are just pathetic though IMO.

[Thedelldays]

im laughing at you darren...you are the one that uses the media to have a pop at the club over personal issues....YOU questioned what games i go to and then put caveats on what really counts as an answer..

 

I am not making a big deal about you and your fanzine (what ever it was) but the fact you used your position to put the boot in the club over something NON-football related...no matter how sad the situation was (which i am sorry for)

 

for years..i travelled up from plymouth every "home" game when I was in the country........does that make me a good enough fan...

 

and now, I dont bother due to the mess..something that RC does too no doubt..yet im the plastic and others are passionate fans?????

 

maybe I will go throwing money around at the directors and I might make acceptance in your book

 

thinking about it, I am glad I am not in southampton as im sure you are rubbing your hands at the over dramatic tripe you will go public on...full of emotion and little fact as normal...and I will have the pleasure of not reading it...

 

I respect that you do more than most, but YOU asked me about my support when I am merely doing what other do (and got ****e for) and many are now suggesting to do..NOT GO..

 

Soon it will be the "done thing" not to go to games but I will still get stick for doing so..

[Simon_UK]

I don't neccesarilly believe the OS view on what happened, I wasn't there, but I guess Chorley merely tossed a few coins in the genral direction of Lowe, rather than hurled them at him.

 

However, Rich Chorley is a prize C*nt and if he is banned from all SFC premised, that IMHO is a good thing.

[Saint Billy]

FFS, how pc can some of us get!

 

At least Chorley does something even if it was misunderstood by many. Throwing some coins on a table for christ sake does not constitute physical violence and how some of you can be taken in by the OS pr spin is beyond belief.

 

At least he will get of his arse and do something instead of some endlessly banging on in forums such as this and that is as far as their protest goes.

 

I suspect, just like Lowe, their take on this is governed by their dislike of Chorley rather than the message he was trying to convey.

[swannymere]

I'm shocked that Richard Chorley would be involved in an act of self-publicity, no really i am Leave TDD alone, he makes me feel normal;)

[Thedelldays]

so...apart from, "tossed, thrown, lobbed"

 

we now have "hurled" coins..and was shouting abuse at lowe.whilst one of the most important meetings in years was being conducted

 

great use of time...

[St Paul]

so...apart from, "tossed, thrown, lobbed"

 

whilst one of the most important meetings in years was being conducted

 

great use of time...

 

If it was that important the football chairman would have been there..........

[Thedelldays]

If it was that important the football chairman would have been there..........

 

 

does it matter...would we have had different answers?

 

are the answers to the questions not the main point..?

[Denzil]

He's on SKy Sports News now.

[aintforever]

Looks like his coin throwing has worked! good on him.

[Ludwig]

Got a ridiculously long interview.

[saint lard]

After his extensive and in depth live interview on SSN,a few moments ago,i thought his actions may have achieved something more positive than i first thought.

He put his view across well and thanked Sky for at last putting the real plight of SFC into the media spotlight.

He expressed the fact that Crouch and Lawrie spoke eloquently and their views are upheld by many at this club.

And that Lowe may well be able to run roughshod(sp) over people in the financial world but he will not do that to the majority of shareholders and fans of SFC alike.He must go and he will go.

He also stated that it was a symbolic gesture afterwhich he turned to leave the room and was set upon by over zealous stewards,and manhandled out of the building, assaulted was the word he used in front of many witnessess,therefore it was not suprising that the club has not pursued this via the police.

Edited 24 December, 2008 by saint lard

[Mr X]

After his extensive and in depth live interview on SSN,a few moments ago,i thought his actions may have achieved something more positive than i first thought.

He put his view across well and thanked Sky for at last putting the real plight of SFC into the media spotlight.

He expressed the fact that Crouch and Lawrie spoke eloquently and their views are upheld by many at this club.

And that Lowe may well be able to run roughshod(sp) over people in the financial world but he will not do that to the majority of shareholders and fans of SFC alike.He must go and he will go.

He also stated that it was a symbolic gesture afterwhich he turned to leave the room and was set upon by over zealous stewards,and manhandled out of the building, assaulted was the word he used in front of many witnessess,therefore it was not suprising that the club has not pursued this via the police.

 

Is there a video link to this?

[offix]

FFS, how pc can some of us get!

 

At least Chorley does something even if it was misunderstood by many. Throwing some coins on a table for christ sake does not constitute physical violence and how some of you can be taken in by the OS pr spin is beyond belief.

 

At least he will get of his arse and do something instead of some endlessly banging on in forums such as this and that is as far as their protest goes.

 

I suspect, just like Lowe, their take on this is governed by their dislike of Chorley rather than the message he was trying to convey.

 

Fully agreed! The action may have been misguided, but the sentiment and the desire to act are to be commended!

[Thedelldays]

having just seen the interview..I would like to alter my stance on all this..

 

I dont agree with what he did at the meeting but he did get his point across well on telly and I would like to hold my hands up and say fair play to him...

[offix]

any chance of a link to see this interview?

[Thedelldays]

any chance of a link to see this interview?

dont know..i just has SSN on and it came on...luck i spose

[bridge too far]

I think it's just about to be repeated.

[SP Saint]

I missed Richard Chorley on Sky Sports News but saw Lawrie roundly condemn Lowe's new regime just after.

 

I hope Rupert chokes when he sees it.

[SP Saint]

Interviews repeated again 2 minutes ago - slightly shorter but still pretty damning for Lowe.

 

Time to go Rupes.

[Saint Billy]

having just seen the interview..I would like to alter my stance on all this..

 

I dont agree with what he did at the meeting but he did get his point across well on telly and I would like to hold my hands up and say fair play to him...

 

Fair play to you too!

[docker-p]

I remember Chorley from SISA meetings of old. And yes he can bore the tits off playboy bunny when he goes off on one, but he's prepared to stand up and be counted, and has done so on many occasions.

Lobbing some coins at Lowe was a fair gesture, and frankly, Lowe deserved a lot more than a handful of coins thrown at him.

[SaintRobbie]

Nothing could be further from the truth. Would make my millennium to see the back of RL.

 

I wasn't at the AGM, so my knowledge of the event is down to the OS. Perhaps, if there is an alternative version, someone who was at the meeting could brief me in? I am happy to stand corrected but until i do the OS is good enough for me.

 

I accept your reply fully. Apologies - I never meant to group you accordingly.

 

Read the Echo version... it's terribly enlightening.

[SaintRobbie]

I remember Chorley from SISA meetings of old. And yes he can bore the tits off playboy bunny when he goes off on one, but he's prepared to stand up and be counted, and has done so on many occasions.

Lobbing some coins at Lowe was a fair gesture, and frankly, Lowe deserved a lot more than a handful of coins thrown at him.

 

I agree with ALL said.

 

Until another fan leader steps forward who has credibility (ie not seen as a plc puppet) Chorley is all we have.

 

Richard - good luck. BUT, concentrate on selling this club thereafter.

[lordswoodsaints]

The whole debacle is just pathetic. The official site's spin on the meeting was just utterly, utterly shameful...

 

Whther or not you like or agree with Rich, to liken his symbolic gesture to "coin throwing" is just laughable. To then make that the only point of any note is just censorship. The official site has to give a fair and balanced report on the matter and to put it as

 

"At today's AGM, Richard Chorley, who attended the meeting as a shareholder's proxy, had to be removed from the Itchen Suite after he ran to the top table and threw a handful of coins at PLC Chairman Rupert Lowe and Senior Steward Beth Rowley.

 

Throwing coins is regarded as a serious offence at football matches. Fans who carry out this sort of behaviour are prosecuted and if convicted receive a national football banning order for a minimum of three years and a criminal record."

 

is very serious indeed.

 

Should Chorley be subjected to any of the above then I, and this just my own opinion, would think long and hard about ever going to St Marys again. Not because of some misguided support of Rich, he can look after himself, but as someone who thinks the club has overreacted and then given a big brother like edited version of what happened at the AGM so as make it appear that Chorley almost assaulted Lowe.

 

Coin throwing? Coin tossing in the general direction of more like...

 

More than just this happened at the meeting and yet Lowe has presented this grossly edited version that makes no mention of the walk out or the views of the other shareholders.

 

This the official Southampton FC football website. It is not Rupert Lowe's private PR site.....

 

i know beth very well and when i see her next i will try and get her side of the story.

[Calvin]

What a waste of thread space.

 

WOW RICHARD CHORLEY, How ****ing interesting. SOME RANDOM GUY WHO LIKES TO RANT GOT BANNED. THIS IS THE MOST INTERESTING NEWS ON HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[St Marco]

I second that well done Rich.....

 

Compleatly agree. Not his biggest fan but at least he is trying to do something where as 99.9% of us are doing feck all about it and wont attempt to do feck all about it.

[Wilko]

Well played, Chorley. Any expression of discontent is worth making in these sick times.

 

I remain,

 

Wilko