Fan The Flames Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 strange now that anyone questions anything about club policy or decisions is a bed wetter' date=' very unhealthy state of affairs[/quote'] One person has mentioned bedwetting and you are all up in arms, its no wonder you bedwetters get called bedwetters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 strange now that anyone questions anything about club policy or decisions is a bed wetter' date=' very unhealthy state of affairs[/quote'] That hasn't actually changed though it was the same in NCs day the only difference is the old happy clappers are now the bed wetters and vice versa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 We don't know why he changed tack over Schneiderlin or whether he could have done that earlier over any of the other departures. Wasn't down to the internet army being critical that changed the course of history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 Krueger says it's been a dream summer!? I wish they'd keep him out of the media. I get that he's trying to be positive, but he's still fundamentally lost people's trust over the exodus debacle. A dream summer for me would've been keeping our existing manager and team together, possibly selling Shaw, buying a keeper and an impact man from midfield and kicking onwards towards Europe. Loss today and most doommongers will be firmly back in the nightmare summer camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 Loss today and most doommongers will be firmly back in the nightmare summer camp. Which would suggest that they're knee-jerk reactionary idiots, with no sense of perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 I thought that he handled the interview perfectly well. I don't disagree with anything he said and it is really typical of this forum that there will be those who when they cannot find something to criticise in what was said, will then choose to criticise the way that it was said. He and other board members had called for calmness and trust in the way that they handled a situation that was thrust upon them, largely unavoidably, and they have proven that they were deserving of that trust. Despite the dire prophecies of doom and gloom, relegation, an asset-stripping fire sale, opinions that there was no way that we could start the season with a team as strong as that which finished the last one, Ralph voices the opinion that we are arguably in the position of indeed having a stronger team/squad and few would disagree. I can understand that many who made these dire forecasts have egg all over their faces and therefore don't wish to have the good grace to credit the Chairman and the board for the good job that they have done in turning the situation right around. One would hope that if future events bring a similar situation, that these people will have the humility to accept that the board should be allowed time to address the situation before they go into rant mode. Krueger had the humility to admit that some mistakes had been made and that the board will learn from them. What a shame that some of our fans are probably so blinkered that they will not do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 I get that he's trying to be positive, but he's still fundamentally lost some people's trust over the exodus debacle. I corrected it for you. I accept that you were one of the chief doom-mongers, but that doesn't qualify you to speak for the majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 Ralph is still embarrassing and I would prefer the club didn't wheel him out for interviews that don't really give any informative information. Having said that, the club deserve credit for how they rebuilt the club this summer which restored some of the faith that was lost. However infuriating ralph's interviews are, he isn't really hurting anyone by doing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 Krueger says it's been a dream summer!? I wish they'd keep him out of the media. I get that he's trying to be positive, but he's still fundamentally lost people's trust over the exodus debacle. A dream summer for me would've been keeping our existing manager and team together, possibly selling Shaw, buying a keeper and an impact man from midfield and kicking onwards towards Europe. Loss today and most doommongers will be firmly back in the nightmare summer camp. That's cos most of the doom mongers have no nerve or bottle to see anything through just knee jerk reaction time after time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 Highlights apart from salaries? Also raising salaries considering the first eleven is arguably weaker may not be the best outcome of the window (granted 40million banked). Au contraire my friend, the starting XI is arguably much stronger now and did you not expect Morgan to be given a substantial pay rise to keep his head here? Remember to, the Club always had the options to keep contracted players here even against their wishes but the Club also said that it would keep the players that it wanted to keep so it can it not be be inferred that those who left were considered to be not irreplaceable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 Ralph is still embarrassing and I would prefer the club didn't wheel him out for interviews that don't really give any informative information. Having said that, the club deserve credit for how they rebuilt the club this summer which restored some of the faith that was lost. However infuriating ralph's interviews are, he isn't really hurting anyone by doing them. ... and who is over-seeing all of this good work? Time you laid off Mr Kreuger, it's your comments that are becoming embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 ... and who is over-seeing all of this good work? Time you laid off Mr Kreuger, it's your comments that are becoming embarrassing. As usual Charlie, you didn't really comprehend what I said. Whether kruger oversees the work or not, it doesn't make his interview style any less cringeworthy. The two things are totally unrelated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 As usual Charlie, you didn't really comprehend what I said. Whether kruger oversees the work or not, it doesn't make his interview style any less cringeworthy. The two things are totally unrelated. So our chariman's delivery of a statement is deemed to be cringeworthy by some. So what? You poor souls, how can you bear to listen to him? If that's all we've got to worry about, you ought to realise how pathetic it makes you look when one looks at the bigger picture of where the club is currently. As for the "dream summer" quote, let's have it in context. He said that following the departure of the manager and several of the best players, if it turned out that the team subsequently ended up stronger, then that would be a dream summer, i.e., anybody who forecast that conclusion to events would have been considered a dreamer at the beginning of the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 Which would suggest that they're knee-jerk reactionary idiots, with no sense of perspective. Considering who made the comment that should come as no surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 So our chariman's delivery of a statement is deemed to be cringeworthy by some. So what? You poor souls, how can you bear to listen to him? If that's all we've got to worry about, you ought to realise how pathetic it makes you look when one looks at the bigger picture of where the club is currently. As for the "dream summer" quote, let's have it in context. He said that following the departure of the manager and several of the best players, if it turned out that the team subsequently ended up stronger, then that would be a dream summer, i.e., anybody who forecast that conclusion to events would have been considered a dreamer at the beginning of the summer. What bit of hypo saying "the two things are unrelated" did you not understand? He's pretty weak on media interviews. I think that viewpoint is permissable on this forum without it buried under an avalanche of yet-again assessments of the summer. Hint: we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 Wasn't down to the internet army being critical that changed the course of history. If only we had had the internet in 1939. We could have stopped Hilter with a few well judged internet posts!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 What would be good is if we could all draw a line under what happened this summer and start with a clean slate. Give the Board a chance to show what they can do, along with the new manager and his squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 What would be good is if we could all draw a line under what happened this summer and start with a clean slate. Give the Board a chance to show what they can do, along with the new manager and his squad. Agreed. I'm much more interested in where we're going than where we've been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brussels Saint Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 So has the Peach interview actually been reported yet, as all I've seen so far is the Solent one? Seems he's the slowest typer on the planet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 So the bedwetters are still wetting the bed then! It's laughable that people can judge that the team is 'arguably' weaker than last season given we are 3 games into the new season. This 'weaker' team nearly won at Anfield, and totally dominated at Wet Spam. Tadic looks to be as good as Lallana, Pelle showed good promise at WHU, Alderwiereld is yet to play and should be as good as my head is in Liverpool Lovren. Not to mention Mane who will give us good width. J-Rod is still to come back and add in Shane Long to the equation then I would argue that we could be stronger than last season. The media had a feeding frenzy on us as we lost 3 England internationals, and the greedy bastard, add in Chambers then we were in meltdown. Ummmmm, given that Lallana, Shaw and the greedy bastard basically said they were not going to play for the club again then what could they do? Lambert was I think not going to be first choice this season then £4m was good business. The club have invested well in good players and RK looks to be able to play a good brand of football and at least has a plan 'B'. Top 10 finish will do me nicely this season. COYRs. This. We need to give time, and have patience. It will take a bit for them to all be bedded into the squad and play the tactics, but i feel we are stronger than last year. And, as other said, Koeman has a plan B, and possibly a plan C, to keep other teams guessing, which is an improvement on last year also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 Highlights apart from salaries? Also raising salaries considering the first eleven is arguably weaker may not be the best outcome of the window (granted 40million banked). My first game of the season, I appreciate it is early days for a judgement but I think you are likely to be wrong. My assessment at moment; Forster - big improvement Tadic - not sure, looks very good, but not sure if will better Lallana, possibly improvement Pelle - improvement on Lambert. (Where I think Lambert would be this season) gives team a good focal point and always available Bertrand - weaker than Shaw but decent Toby - hard to judge but looked so comfortable, could better Lovren Plus Cork and JWP look much proved. Plus additional players, long, gardos, Mane - look decent quality. No doubt better squad, quite decent shout better 11. Schneiderlin: said today: “We have bought quality players and we can argue that the team is better than last year, that is a good debate” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 I don't think this years team gets 8th or near the same points total as last year. Would love to be proved wrong of course. Chill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 Highlights apart from salaries? Also raising salaries considering the first eleven is arguably weaker may not be the best outcome of the window (granted 40million banked). Any happier now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 Any happier now? I'm not miserable guys, I don't think we have a bad team and I do think we have more depth in the squad. I just think that there's a case to be made that the first 11 is weaker overall and there is still a great deal of uncertainty over Morgan, J-rod and Cork. I think you all make very valid points as to the current squad and I am very happy with today's result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pip Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2754285/Southampton-stronger-following-summer-exodus-claims-chairman-Ralph-Krueger.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2754285/Southampton-stronger-following-summer-exodus-claims-chairman-Ralph-Krueger.html Thanks for that link came across as coherent no "innit" "know what I mean" and all the other s...t that some love LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 13 September, 2014 Share Posted 13 September, 2014 Au contraire my friend, the starting XI is arguably much stronger now and did you not expect Morgan to be given a substantial pay rise to keep his head here? Remember to, the Club always had the options to keep contracted players here even against their wishes but the Club also said that it would keep the players that it wanted to keep so it can it not be be inferred that those who left were considered to be not irreplaceable? Do we actually know that Morgan received a pay raise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 14 September, 2014 Share Posted 14 September, 2014 Silly to make assumptions about the way things are going right now, but if things carry on as they are you have to worry about the players who left, bless them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 14 September, 2014 Share Posted 14 September, 2014 Do we actually know that Morgan received a pay raise? Well you should know Ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 14 September, 2014 Share Posted 14 September, 2014 Silly to make assumptions about the way things are going right now.... And yet you still did... ....but if things carry on as they are you have to worry about the players who left, bless them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 14 September, 2014 Share Posted 14 September, 2014 Well you should know Ralph. I was going to respond by asking you if you really though that Ralph would spend the time and effort to write my blog and then I realized that I am surprised that I am spending the time and effort so that proves nothing. Nevertheless, your persistent belief that I am Ralph is moderately humorous if it is a joke and foolish if it is not. Also, can anyone post a link to any source that says that Morgan received a raise this summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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