Batman Posted 9 September, 2014 Posted 9 September, 2014 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/11460188.Toby_ready_to_seize_Saints_chance/?ref=fbpg ready to play, will take his chance when it comes admitted that it is a complicated situation with the option to buy for saints....may go back to atletico as they have an option or something looking forward to him playing.
Turkish Posted 9 September, 2014 Posted 9 September, 2014 Clearly been promised first team football otherwise he wouldn't have left athletico.
Matthew Le God Posted 9 September, 2014 Posted 9 September, 2014 Hard to take Adam Leitch (the Echo's chief sports writer) seriously when he says things like... There has been plenty of speculation as to how Saints boss Ronald Koeman might now order his central defence, with Alderweireld and Fonte as right footers and Gardos and Yoshida as left footers. All four are predominately right footed.
Turkish Posted 9 September, 2014 Posted 9 September, 2014 Hard to take Adam Leitch (the Echo's chief sports writer) seriously when he says things like... All four are predominately right footed. They'll upset a few on here who have been obsessed with having one if each ever since Adkins said something about it when we singed Dan Seaborne.
ozzmeister Posted 9 September, 2014 Posted 9 September, 2014 Interested about the complicated situation regarding the option to buy. Either we have the option or we dont? Or is that implying that Athletico have the option to take him back if they are still interested? Do we then have first refusal at an agreed price, first refusal of any future price or no option what so ever. Are we at risk of him having a stonking season, then just being signed by one of the big boys, or kept by Athletico and we get single season wirth of benfit whilst possibly paying his wage?
CB Fry Posted 9 September, 2014 Posted 9 September, 2014 Interested about the complicated situation regarding the option to buy. Either we have the option or we dont? Or is that implying that Athletico have the option to take him back if they are still interested? Do we then have first refusal at an agreed price, first refusal of any future price or no option what so ever. Are we at risk of him having a stonking season, then just being signed by one of the big boys, or kept by Athletico and we get single season wirth of benfit whilst possibly paying his wage? I think we should hope he plays really well for us, we finish eighth and win a cup.
Batman Posted 9 September, 2014 Author Posted 9 September, 2014 Interested about the complicated situation regarding the option to buy. Either we have the option or we dont? Or is that implying that Athletico have the option to take him back if they are still interested? Do we then have first refusal at an agreed price, first refusal of any future price or no option what so ever. Are we at risk of him having a stonking season, then just being signed by one of the big boys, or kept by Athletico and we get single season wirth of benfit whilst possibly paying his wage? throw in the possibility he may well want to keep his options open if CL atletico want him back after a good season, to be a starting CB. He may well fancy it that or liverpool buy him.
Turkish Posted 9 September, 2014 Posted 9 September, 2014 I think we should hope he plays really well for us, we finish eighth and win a cup. Forget the cup. If we finish 8th and don't bother about the cups, which are beneath us, we can build for the champions league push in 2915/16 season.
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 9 September, 2014 Posted 9 September, 2014 Something is going to have to give at CB. As Turkish says, it pretty much seems Alderweireld has been promised a start. So who partners him - our Captain, our £6m signing, or Yoshida. Well probably not Yoshida, but I can't see Gardos or Fonte being too happy with a place on the bench.
Turkish Posted 9 September, 2014 Posted 9 September, 2014 Something is going to have to give at CB. As Turkish says' date=' it pretty much seems Alderweireld has been promised a start. So who partners him - our Captain, our £6m signing, or Yoshida. Well probably not Yoshida, but I can't see Gardos or Fonte being too happy with a place on the bench.[/quote'] It'll be Fonte and Alderwood.
Dellman Posted 9 September, 2014 Posted 9 September, 2014 Something is going to have to give at CB. As Turkish says' date=' it pretty much seems Alderweireld has been promised a start. So who partners him - our Captain, our £6m signing, or Yoshida. Well probably not Yoshida, but I can't see Gardos or Fonte being too happy with a place on the bench.[/quote'] If we are serious about getting any higher than 8th of having any cup run we will need international quality players on the bench as well as in the team, that's the way it is at the top and the players want to be at the top and on top pay,so they've got to get used to the downside---time on the bench
Patrick Bateman Posted 9 September, 2014 Posted 9 September, 2014 It'll be Fonte and Alderwood. He's Tony Underwood, he plays where he wants.
Lorne Malvo Posted 9 September, 2014 Posted 9 September, 2014 They'll upset a few on here who have been obsessed with having one if each ever since Adkins said something about it when we singed Dan Seaborne. You've changed your tune.
Turkish Posted 9 September, 2014 Posted 9 September, 2014 You've changed your tune. Think you'll find I always said people that said we needed one left and one right footed centre half we're talking bol+ocks. Vidic and Ferdinand anyone?
Coldridge Posted 9 September, 2014 Posted 9 September, 2014 Forget the cup. If we finish 8th and don't bother about the cups, which are beneath us, we can build for the champions league push in 2915/16 season. That is some long-term vision....
S-Clarke Posted 9 September, 2014 Posted 9 September, 2014 Not sure why everyone is so worried about next season. We have a good player with us for a year, and if he does as well as people 'fear', then it will probably equate to us having a pretty damn fine season.
Turkish Posted 9 September, 2014 Posted 9 September, 2014 That is some long-term vision.... 'The Southampton way' Fact
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 9 September, 2014 Posted 9 September, 2014 Not sure why everyone is so worried about next season. We have a good player with us for a year, and if he does as well as people 'fear', then it will probably equate to us having a pretty damn fine season. My general concern with loans is that even if it works out the player leaves and then you have a gap to fill and no funds to replace them in the team. In the short-term you get benefit but in the long-term I don't think it is a clever strategy. I can see why we did it this summer with such a large transition in players, but ideally I wouldn't like to think loaning players (and making them better) factors into our long term strategy for being a successful club. On the other hand you can agree a fee up front but that means nothing unless the player wants to stay. Plus if the loan isn't successful we get to offload them at no cost beyond their wages and loan fee however it also means they've likely had no benefit to the team in the short-term as well.
Turkish Posted 9 September, 2014 Posted 9 September, 2014 My general concern with loans is that even if it works out the player leaves and then you have a gap to fill and no funds to replace them in the team. In the short-term you get benefit but in the long-term I don't think it is a clever strategy. I can see why we did it this summer with such a large transition in players' date=' but ideally I wouldn't like to think loaning players (and making them better) factors into our long term strategy for being a successful club. On the other hand you can agree a fee up front but that means nothing unless the player wants to stay. Plus if the loan isn't successful we get to offload them at no cost beyond their wages and loan fee however it also means they've likely had no benefit to the team in the short-term as well.[/quote'] Remind me how that's worked out for Everton.
scotty Posted 9 September, 2014 Posted 9 September, 2014 Lovren was as permanent as Toby. Good point.
Torrent Of Abuse Posted 9 September, 2014 Posted 9 September, 2014 Remind me how that's worked out for Everton. As you've pointed out once or twice, there's a bit of a difference in size and status between us and Everton.
St Lej Posted 9 September, 2014 Posted 9 September, 2014 It'll be Fonte and Alderwood. Colin Alderwood?
cellone Posted 9 September, 2014 Posted 9 September, 2014 Lovren was as permanent as Toby. Yes but with Dejan going we got a few million club card points.
toe_punt Posted 10 September, 2014 Posted 10 September, 2014 If he goes back it means he's had a great season. If he's had a great season it means we've stayed up. If we stay up it's 90 million quid in the bank. Good enough.....
stanthemanfairoak Posted 10 September, 2014 Posted 10 September, 2014 QUOTE=toe_punt;2048898]If he goes back it means he's had a great season. If he's had a great season it means we've stayed up. If we stay up it's 90 million quid in the bank. Good enough plus NECTAR POINTS:lol:
The9 Posted 10 September, 2014 Posted 10 September, 2014 Can't believe we signed Alderweireld and the Weir part has left already. He's probably re-signed for Everton though.
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