'00' Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 Interviewed for ST for Ireland match talked about his move. I was surprised as anybody by the fee but club kept upping bid until Hull accepted.I knew they enquired in January but they didn't follow through.My wife is very happy because there are daily flights from Southanpton and she found it hard to settle in Hull. Very impressed with the state of the art Training facilities compared to Hull. When he met the clubs reps they showed him their plans and all research done for years and years in picking players to replace ones they knew they were going to lose.Theyre not stupid about their transfer policy. The role he is being asked to play by RK is unfamiliar to him... behind the main stiker in an advanced role on the right,coming in at the right time and not being picked up..testing the opposition in behind. Im getting used to it. He concluded by saying he wants to stay for the 4 years and make history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 The role he is being asked to play by RK is unfamiliar to him... behind the main stiker in an advanced role on the right,coming in at the right time and not being picked up..testing the opposition in behind. Im getting used to it. Square peg, round hole. Just do not get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rees Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 I'd like to think eventually with Mane and Rodriguez firing that Long will be an alternative option to Pelle, a little bit like Osvaldo was (supposed to be) to Lambert. Then again, J Rod always used to look out of position out wide but look how that turned out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 Square peg' date=' round hole. Just do not get it.[/quote'] The club obviously see something they can work on - Thierry Henry was predominently a winger when he moved to Arsenal but AW moved him to playing as a striker. It's about how adaptable the player is. ( Note for the pedantic, I'm not comparing SL with TH ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 Interviewed for ST for Ireland match talked about his move. I was surprised as anybody by the fee but club kept upping bid until Hull accepted.I knew they enquired in January but they didn't follow through.My wife is very happy because there are daily flights from Southanpton and she found it hard to settle in Hull. Very impressed with the state of the art Training facilities compared to Hull. When he met the clubs reps they showed him their plans and all research done for years and years in picking players to replace ones they knew they were going to lose.Theyre not stupid about their transfer policy. The role he is being asked to play by RK is unfamiliar to him... behind the main stiker in an advanced role on the right,coming in at the right time and not being picked up..testing the opposition in behind. Im getting used to it. He concluded by saying he wants to stay for the 4 years and make history. Interesting piece '00', thanks for posting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Saint Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 Interviewed for ST for Ireland match talked about his move. I was surprised as anybody by the fee but club kept upping bid until Hull accepted.I knew they enquired in January but they didn't follow through.My wife is very happy because there are daily flights from Southanpton and she found it hard to settle in Hull. Very impressed with the state of the art Training facilities compared to Hull. When he met the clubs reps they showed him their plans and all research done for years and years in picking players to replace ones they knew they were going to lose.Theyre not stupid about their transfer policy. The role he is being asked to play by RK is unfamiliar to him... behind the main stiker in an advanced role on the right,coming in at the right time and not being picked up..testing the opposition in behind. Im getting used to it. He concluded by saying he wants to stay for the 4 years and make history. I WISH SOMEONE IN THE CLUB WOULD TELL US THEIR PLANS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simondo Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 The role he is being asked to play by RK is unfamiliar to him... behind the main stiker in an advanced role on the right,coming in at the right time and not being picked up..testing the opposition in behind. Im getting used to it. Square peg, round hole. Just do not get it. classic big striker, little striker - remember Crouch and Philips...? did ok for them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 Interviewed for ST for Ireland match talked about his move. I was surprised as anybody by the fee but club kept upping bid until Hull accepted.I knew they enquired in January but they didn't follow through.My wife is very happy because there are daily flights from Southanpton and she found it hard to settle in Hull. Very impressed with the state of the art Training facilities compared to Hull. When he met the clubs reps they showed him their plans and all research done for years and years in picking players to replace ones they knew they were going to lose.Theyre not stupid about their transfer policy. The role he is being asked to play by RK is unfamiliar to him... behind the main stiker in an advanced role on the right,coming in at the right time and not being picked up..testing the opposition in behind. Im getting used to it. He concluded by saying he wants to stay for the 4 years and make history. I guess this answers your question about why the club bought Long and not your preferred option of Carlton Cole then Delldays/Batman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 A distinctly average player; then again some of us like steak and others like big macs and offal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 Interesting that he has been considered for some time so not a "panic buy" then. The fee seems high but if he does a job then fair play. Good to see that this is not all just thrown together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 Interesting that he has been considered for some time so not a "panic buy" then. The fee seems high but if he does a job then fair play. Good to see that this is not all just thrown together. The fee seems high, but there were so many factors going into it that it was always going to be if we really wanted to get him. He'd only just signed, was on a long contract, they didn't need to sell and he was a first team starter for them and they knew we had cash! I'm surprised he didn't cost more, considering Hated the idea of seeing Shane Long in a saints kit when I first heard about the rumour, but having seen him play vs Millwall and West Ham I am convinced that even though he won't score many, he is going to be a good player for us this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 The fee seems high, but there were so many factors going into it that it was always going to be if we really wanted to get him. He'd only just signed, was on a long contract, they didn't need to sell and he was a first team starter for them and they knew we had cash! I'm surprised he didn't cost more, considering Hated the idea of seeing Shane Long in a saints kit when I first heard about the rumour, but having seen him play vs Millwall and West Ham I am convinced that even though he won't score many, he is going to be a good player for us this year! Sides he was poor against? Hopefully Mané works out and Long becomes a decent option off the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 Interviewed for ST for Ireland match talked about his move. I was surprised as anybody by the fee but club kept upping bid until Hull accepted.I knew they enquired in January but they didn't follow through.My wife is very happy because there are daily flights from Southanpton and she found it hard to settle in Hull. Very impressed with the state of the art Training facilities compared to Hull. When he met the clubs reps they showed him their plans and all research done for years and years in picking players to replace ones they knew they were going to lose.Theyre not stupid about their transfer policy. The role he is being asked to play by RK is unfamiliar to him... behind the main stiker in an advanced role on the right,coming in at the right time and not being picked up..testing the opposition in behind. Im getting used to it. He concluded by saying he wants to stay for the 4 years and make history. Seems strange they spend "years" researching replacement players and then pick ones that do not naturally play in the positions they are requried to fill? I prefer the easier "we bought him cos he runs like fook all day and isn't afraid to stick his boot in" reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom & Gerry Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 I obviously don't watch enough football because I've always thought that Shane Long was a really good player, especially for Reading but also when I watched West Brom, though I probably wasn't paying much attention. I'm not sure why people are so underwhelmed by him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 I like Long, good player. Looks like they want to coach him to have a similar game to Aaron Lennon. He's got the pace, definitely. We'll see how good the coaching staff are now. I reckon he'll he'll turn out to be a decent signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedyfly Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 Sides he was poor against? Hopefully Mané works out and Long becomes a decent option off the bench. This. He was distinctly 'headless chickeny' (as he has been his entire career) vs West Ham and Millwall. The moment he went off and Gaston came on we looked heaps better. I guess we didn't need that 12mil :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 This. He was distinctly 'headless chickeny' (as he has been his entire career) vs West Ham and Millwall. The moment he went off and Gaston came on we looked heaps better. I guess we didn't need that 12mil :S Early days but have seen nothing from him thus far that says anything other than distinctly average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 A distinctly average player; then again some of us like steak and others like big macs and offal. I would agree that it isn't the most exciting of signings and was expensive, but given Hull's replacement is more expensive, then not too bad. (I mean more expensive as it was £10m for 3 years, compared to £12m for 4 - splitting hairs I know...!!) There really wasn't a great deal of choice. I always said that PL experience seemed to have been a big factor and I was questioned by many as to why it was. RK later came out and said that it was one of the factors, so who would you want, one whose wages were affordable and who actually wanted to come here. There actually isn't a great deal of choice and no one has really come up with a viable/better alternative. [Out of interest, would you have preferred Hernandez who Hull signed or Long?] As it is, I like steak and the odd Big Mac (although really, a Whopper is so much better). And offal, well liver and kidney yes, but tripe, won't touch that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 I WISH SOMEONE IN THE CLUB WOULD TELL US THEIR PLANS!! They did tell us what they claimed their plans were - that the best players were not for sale and they would bring in more to improve the squad. Whether it was accident or design that caused that to change is what much of the arguing has been about, but by the time they were talking to Long, a new transfer policy was in place which has regained the confidence of the fans, (or most of them), and it seems has also gained the confidence of the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 They did tell us what they claimed their plans were - that the best players were not for sale and they would bring in more to improve the squad. Whether it was accident or design that caused that to change is what much of the arguing has been about, but by the time they were talking to Long, a new transfer policy was in place which has regained the confidence of the fans, (or most of them), and it seems has also gained the confidence of the players. Well long said a new transfer policy was not in place and the players had been identified years in advance. What are you actually a professor of btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingdomCome Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 Well long said a new transfer policy was not in place and the players had been identified years in advance. What are you actually a professor of btw? Perhaps there's a more literal meaning to the name...one who professes Profess (verb): claim, often falsely, that one has (a quality or feeling) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 Good interview, cheers for posting! On Long always hated seeing him line up against us so glad he signed. Appreciate that he wants to be here and seems to 'get' the club. Don't expect miracles but, even with him having to learn a new role in a side in transition, I would hope he could help our goals tally through goals, direct assists and creating space for others to play with his effective off the ball work. As for price we all know, even he knows, it may be a bit steep. But value is subjective. We wanted him, Hull had no real desire to sell, we managed to find a mutually acceptable price. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmysaint7 Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 Early days but have seen nothing from him thus far that says anything other than distinctly average. As he states though he is playing a new role so bit unfair to judge him on his peformances so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 I like Long, seems like a good honest pro - someone who is the polar opposite to who we've seen leave the club in recent times and the sort of player that the fans have been moaning that we didn't have, in terms of mentality. I like his style, his hassling no nonsense approach which also happens to be bloody quick. The fee was what the fee was, because Hull didn't have to sell, simple as that - I don't have a problem with that as we've got a good player who is good enough for a first 11 start, won't moan when he is sometimes the "option off the bench" and who crucially, wants to see out his 4 year contract here and hopefully show everyone what a good player he is. Maybe we'll get a couple of cups on the way!? The first FA cup since 1976 would surely be making history here!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 8 September, 2014 Share Posted 8 September, 2014 I like Long, seems like a good honest pro - someone who is the polar opposite to who we've seen leave the club in recent times and the sort of player that the fans have been moaning that we didn't have, in terms of mentality. I like his style, his hassling no nonsense approach which also happens to be bloody quick. The fee was what the fee was, because Hull didn't have to sell, simple as that - I don't have a problem with that as we've got a good player who is good enough for a first 11 start, won't moan when he is sometimes the "option off the bench" and who crucially, wants to see out his 4 year contract here and hopefully show everyone what a good player he is. Maybe we'll get a couple of cups on the way!? The first FA cup since 1976 would surely be making history here!! Great post - a lot of sense IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 9 September, 2014 Share Posted 9 September, 2014 Square peg' date=' round hole. Just do not get it.[/quote'] It's a Moneyball signing (albeit an expensive one). Find the stats you want, find the player that fits the stats and buy him. We now have to wait to find out if Les Reed is Brad Pitt or just throwing darts at a list of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 9 September, 2014 Share Posted 9 September, 2014 It's a Moneyball signing (albeit an expensive one). Find the stats you want, find the player that fits the stats and buy him. We now have to wait to find out if Les Reed is Brad Pitt or just throwing darts at a list of players. What makes you think that? Not sure what stats would promote Long particularly, apart from 'makes X number of runs behind back 4' or 'Y number of sprints to close down opposition back 4'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 9 September, 2014 Share Posted 9 September, 2014 classic big striker, little striker - remember Crouch and Philips...? did ok for them... No it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 9 September, 2014 Share Posted 9 September, 2014 I obviously don't watch enough football because I've always thought that Shane Long was a really good player, especially for Reading but also when I watched West Brom, though I probably wasn't paying much attention. I'm not sure why people are so underwhelmed by him? Nor me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 9 September, 2014 Share Posted 9 September, 2014 I WISH SOMEONE IN THE CLUB WOULD TELL US THEIR PLANS!! well ...if we were about to sign for them, they probably would ... but just buying a ticket to watch a movie, doesn't mean we have to tell the director how to make the film ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 9 September, 2014 Share Posted 9 September, 2014 Interviewed for ST for Ireland match talked about his move. I was surprised as anybody by the fee but club kept upping bid until Hull accepted.I knew they enquired in January but they didn't follow through .My wife is very happy because there are daily flights from Southanpton and she found it hard to settle in Hull. Very impressed with the state of the art Training facilities compared to Hull. When he met the clubs reps they showed him their plans and all research done for years and years in picking players to replace ones they knew they were going to lose.Theyre not stupid about their transfer policy. The role he is being asked to play by RK is unfamiliar to him... behind the main stiker in an advanced role on the right,coming in at the right time and not being picked up..testing the opposition in behind. Im getting used to it. He concluded by saying he wants to stay for the 4 years and make history. 1) for those people who want to know why a transfer didn't work and .....player X or Y......didn't sign for us, here's one of the possible reasons.... 2) for players (like Shane Long) who have been around a few years and played at different levels, here's one reason for being happy to go to the workplace, remembering that SMS is only (a workplace).. for a COUPLE OF HOURS twice a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 9 September, 2014 Share Posted 9 September, 2014 Well long said a new transfer policy was not in place and the players had been identified years in advance. What are you actually a professor of btw? I'm afraid I disagree with your interpretation, but does it actually matter? A professor of psychology might find this forum a splendid source to research the motivation for insult trading. Thanks for your contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScratchySaint Posted 9 September, 2014 Share Posted 9 September, 2014 Yes, the price is steep. But i think he'll do well for us this year, even if it is off the bench. We've got more pace and power in the side than we've had in a long time, i'm pretty excited about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxon Posted 9 September, 2014 Share Posted 9 September, 2014 Liked the "stay for the four years and make history" part. There's clearly something still resembling ambition at St Mary's. Look at the players we've brought in, and the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Crab Posted 9 September, 2014 Share Posted 9 September, 2014 Square peg' date=' round hole. Just do not get it.[/quote'] What is this obsession with the idea that footballers can only play one way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 9 September, 2014 Share Posted 9 September, 2014 Great post - a lot of sense IMO. Thanks, I'm worried it's becoming a habit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 9 September, 2014 Share Posted 9 September, 2014 Ripe with the smell of a Money ball purchase, I just cannot fathom what the Quant's were looking for, it'll be bleeding obvious come Xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 September, 2014 Share Posted 9 September, 2014 I'm afraid I disagree with your interpretation, but does it actually matter? A professor of psychology might find this forum a splendid source to research the motivation for insult trading. Thanks for your contribution. A professor of common sense would make hay with your posts pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 September, 2014 Share Posted 9 September, 2014 Thanks, I'm worried it's becoming a habit Can you go back to calling people jizz mopping Mongs please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 10 September, 2014 Share Posted 10 September, 2014 A professor of common sense would make hay with your posts pal. Don't recall adopting you as a 'pal' but if you don't like reading my posts you are free to add me to your ignore list. I've now done that for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 10 September, 2014 Share Posted 10 September, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 September, 2014 Share Posted 10 September, 2014 Don't recall adopting you as a 'pal' but if you don't like reading my posts you are free to add me to your ignore list. I've now done that for you. Thanks for announcing it to the wider mongboard audience pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 10 September, 2014 Share Posted 10 September, 2014 I might send Steve and FoI request to see who is the most "Ignored" poster. Thoughts on the top 5? Barry & Glasgow when they were around. You? Alps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 10 September, 2014 Share Posted 10 September, 2014 Can someone quote KRG so we know what he's on about now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 11 September, 2014 Share Posted 11 September, 2014 I might send Steve and FoI request to see who is the most "Ignored" poster. Thoughts on the top 5? Barry & Glasgow when they were around. You? Alps? SaintRichmond must have been pretty high during the summer. I'm up to about 15 ignores now, what with the numerous banning and rebrandings, probably 75% of them aren't even current posters. Turkish is not one of them either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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