Batman Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Says they need more home grown players in their squad and thee fact they are 1 striker down after negredo left Well, if true. That will be that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Coat Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 He's injured ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 He will ruin his career but earn shed loads of money. Is that in Jay's character? Hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Why? He's not even an established international and won't be given much time to adjust to City's level if he went there. Given the struggles of Sinclair, Johnson and to a lesser extent Richards and Lescott, they've hardly got a good track record of helping English players come through. He might rake the £ in but from a footballing point of view it would be a poor move IMO. Spurs is about the right step up for him at this moment in time, but hoping that we do well enough between now and Jan to convince him to sign a new contract. Massive show of faith from the board to offer him a 5 year deal given nature of his injury, so I hope either way it gets sorted quickly and we don't get played again like with Poch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 7 September, 2014 Author Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Why? He's not even an established international and won't be given much time to adjust to City's level if he went there. Given the struggles of Sinclair, Johnson and to a lesser extent Richards and Lescott, they've hardly got a good track record of helping English players come through. He might rake the £ in but from a footballing point of view it would be a poor move IMO. Spurs is about the right step up for him at this moment in time, but hoping that we do well enough between now and Jan to convince him to sign a new contract. Massive show of faith from the board to offer him a 5 year deal given nature of his injury, so I hope either way it gets sorted quickly and we don't get played again like with Poch. Why, they get a striker capable of playing two positions, capable of scoring at least 15-17 league goals and is (more importantly for them).... English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Why, they get a striker capable of playing two positions, capable of scoring at least 15-17 league goals and is (more importantly for them).... English The 'why' was referring to your 'that will be that' logic not the reasons City might look to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 7 September, 2014 Author Share Posted 7 September, 2014 The 'why' was referring to your 'that will be that' logic not the reasons City might look to sign him. My "logic" was if they want him. That will be that, he will go This summer has shown us that more than likely, if players want out we will let them go. More so if they have 12-18 months on their contract and not signed a new one offered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Dave Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Surely he will look at previous examples of decent talents who have gone there and not played! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 7 September, 2014 Author Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Surely he will look at previous examples of decent talents who have gone there and not played! How many are there? Sinclair and Rodwell....? I rate jay a lot more than them Anyway, probably papers picking up on not a lot. He is probably on the list of many clubs as a potential target. Not just city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 It's started already I see. We had all this with Lallana. He won't go there he'd rather stay here and play and just look at all the players that have left clubs going to the big boys and failed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 7 September, 2014 Author Share Posted 7 September, 2014 It's started already I see. We had all this with Lallana. He won't go there he'd rather stay here and play etc. And, it's all lies controlled by the previous chairman (won't be long till someone says this) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 And, it's all lies controlled by the previous chairman (won't be long till someone says this) 3 seperate local journalists did actually say early in the summer that the previous chairman was feeding the media stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 7 September, 2014 Author Share Posted 7 September, 2014 3 seperate local journalists did actually say early in the summer that the previous chairman was feeding the media stories. They all turned out true, didn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 I hope he stays here and continues to improve. But, more than likely he'll be gone by this time next year. When he does, if Man City want him and that is the best financial deal for Southampton FC then all fine and dandy with me. And it would mean he never went to WHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 I'd rather he go to city than spurs scousehampton or Man U though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 I don't think Jay is greedy enough to go to Man City, he knows he'll be fourth choice at best. I think it's more likely he'll go to wherever Pochettino is in January (probably not Spurs, let's be honest). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Agreed. The best thing for SFC is if Poch's position is under threat by Xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 (edited) They all turned out true, didn't they? Some did, some we don't know. What is for certain is that those stories were not passed on by someone with the clubs best interests at heart. We'll probably never know who it was for a fact but three reporters felt strongly enough to suggest who it was. Edited 7 September, 2014 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 I don't think Jay is greedy enough to go to Man City, he knows he'll be fourth choice at best. I think it's more likely he'll go to wherever Pochettino is in January (probably not Spurs, let's be honest). Why would it be greedy? He'll get the chance to play for a team that will finish in the top two this season, make the later stages of the champions league. It's then done to him to prove he's good enough to get a decent amount of game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Hes good, but not Man City good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 How many are there? Sinclair and Rodwell....? I rate jay a lot more than them Anyway, probably papers picking up on not a lot. He is probably on the list of many clubs as a potential target but least of all city I've amended your typo for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Really hope he stays would rather him over long tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Can't see him going there, especially not coming back from a long term injury. He needs support and faith to go out and play after recovery and he's not going to get that with all the great players they've got competing for places. I'm sure he wants to and probably will go to a big club if he performs this season, but it won't be city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 The unfortunate thing is that if he is not as good as he was before the injury will have him here for a long time, if he is back to his best he will leave. I hope he returns to his best but we then expect to see him leave to Spurs if MP is still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 How many are there? Sinclair and Rodwell....? I rate jay a lot more than them Anyway, probably papers picking up on not a lot. He is probably on the list of many clubs as a potential target. Not just city How many ? Sinclair, richards, rodwell, johnson, johnson they're just the ones I remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Says they need more home grown players in their squad and thee fact they are 1 striker down after negredo left Well, if true. That will be that Another day another negative thread started by our resident little ray of sunshine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Hes good, but not Man City good. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 To be honest, I'm beginning to think we should be identifying replacements for Jay Rod, Spiderman and Wanyama now. They appear not to want to be here and clearly could upset what appears to be a good side that Koeman is starting to put together. But this time though we sell on our terms, once we have brought in a successful replacements. We have the money in the bank to do this - to identify replacements and ship them in. Then we sell at inflated prices. Time for more ruthlessness from our Boardroom and the end of the summer naivety. I think we are all hoping for stronger - and now more experienced - boardroom decision making. We sell once we have a better replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Why do we keep needing to find extra things to worry about? He is not even playing at the moment and there is no guarantee he will come back at the same level. He will either sign a new contract or he will be off. Fretting about it on an internet forum will not make the slightest difference. The sun is shining - go outside and do something useful instead of worring about something you have absolutely no control over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Coat Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Jays been out with a very serious injury and is still likely to be out to a while. So any talk of a major transfer involving Jay is simply bull. There are no guarantees that he will be the same player for us when he starts playing again. Jeez reality grip needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 7 September, 2014 Author Share Posted 7 September, 2014 How many ? Sinclair, richards, rodwell, johnson, johnson they're just the ones I remember Richards was already there and thought Johnson did fairly well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 It's pretty obvious that a lot of top teams will be monitoring his progress as he comes back from injury. Whether any will make the plunge with a bid in January or wait until the end of the season remains to be seen. What will definitely happen if he does leave is that Sir Les will get make sure we get a decent chunk of money for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 7 September, 2014 Author Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Another day another negative thread started by our resident little ray of sunshine. How is it negative. It's just an article Out there Isn't it great that we have such a good player who appears to be so sought after because of his time at our club Feel free to point me into the happy type of leading article in today's main papers Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 7 September, 2014 Author Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Why do we keep needing to find extra things to worry about? He is not even playing at the moment and there is no guarantee he will come back at the same level. He will either sign a new contract or he will be off. Fretting about it on an internet forum will not make the slightest difference. The sun is shining - go outside and do something useful instead of worring about something you have absolutely no control over! Who is worried I'm not If fretting on a Internet forum is pointless, why do you fret so much about others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 To be honest, I'm beginning to think we should be identifying replacements for Jay Rod, Spiderman and Wanyama now. They appear not to want to be here and clearly could upset what appears to be a good side that Koeman is starting to put together. We sell once we have a better replacement. I agree we should be looking for a replacement, not least as he may be gone or may never recover. To that end I think we are very short, with Mayuka and Gallagher not being good enough. Mane can apparently play up front as well as on the wings. Your sentence about only selling when we have a better replacement is wholly wrong. if there is a better player out there, he would be signed up already. And this home grown also affects us as much as the big boys. Like FFP we are at a disadvantage in that we cannot compete on wages, so as soon as the cheque book is waved, we are done for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Quiet news weekend with no football so what better to do than put out January transfer window fairy tales particularly about SFC. I am not sure about conspiracy theories concerning Cortese I thought he had sold up and let the country. If fully fit and scoring goals I would imagine Jay will be a target for a number of clubs including City but we are not there yet and he will only go for a load of money not £15m. I would prefer he does not join Spurs or Liverpool but you have to be realistic. City's record with players is not good and I cannot see him wanting to be on the bench behind Aguero et al reliant on injuries to get a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 I'd sell him for as much as we can get. Gut feel - he won't be the player he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Who is worried I'm not If fretting on a Internet forum is pointless, why do you fret so much about others Why start the thread then? The player is injured and not playing at the moment. Koeman has said he is not selling him. If that is the case and he doesnt sign a new contact he is free to go where he wants. Makes no difference in City are interested. But hey, it is another negative story so lets get it out there. I fret because I come on here for proper news (big mistake I know) and informed debate. Your threads seem mostly to be doom and gloom (when you are not making sweeping generalisations). I paid £5 for this and I would rather my money was spent on a higher level of drivel. Cortese has gone. We have a new Board, a new manager and a number of new players. There is a lot to be optimistic about but I get up on a Sunday morning and here you are peddling doom again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Why start the thread then? The player is injured and not playing at the moment. Koeman has said he is not selling him. If that is the case and he doesnt sign a new contact he is free to go where he wants. Makes no difference in City are interested. But hey, it is another negative story so lets get it out there. I fret because I come on here for proper news (big mistake I know) and informed debate. Your threads seem mostly to be doom and gloom (when you are not making sweeping generalisations). I paid £5 for this and I would rather my money was spent on a higher level of drivel. Cortese has gone. We have a new Board, a new manager and a number of new players. There is a lot to be optimistic about but I get up on a Sunday morning and here you are peddling doom again. Erm because it was reported in the newspaper so is worthy of discussion I would have thought. I know you enjoy ignoring news stories that you perceive to be negative, but it doesn't mean everyone else has to copy you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 If they really want him he will leave. It's not rocket science!! At least double his wages & play CL. But all it shows us what us wrong with English football & PL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 New stories? How many actual news stories have there been this some and how many pieces of idle speculation. How much time has been wasted on things that havent happened and were never going to happen? We have been told that Jay is not for sale. So this is idle speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 7 September, 2014 Author Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Why start the thread then? The player is injured and not playing at the moment. Koeman has said he is not selling him. If that is the case and he doesnt sign a new contact he is free to go where he wants. Makes no difference in City are interested. But hey, it is another negative story so lets get it out there. I fret because I come on here for proper news (big mistake I know) and informed debate. Your threads seem mostly to be doom and gloom (when you are not making sweeping generalisations). I paid £5 for this and I would rather my money was spent on a higher level of drivel. Cortese has gone. We have a new Board, a new manager and a number of new players. There is a lot to be optimistic about but I get up on a Sunday morning and here you are peddling doom again. Why start the thread? Because in a major newspaper there is a story linking our top scorer of last season to the champions Is that now worthy of a mention on a saints forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 New stories? How many actual news stories have there been this some and how many pieces of idle speculation. How much time has been wasted on things that havent happened and were never going to happen? We have been told that Jay is not for sale. So this is idle speculation. OK so are you going to be the arbiter then about what national newspaper stories are allowed to be discussed in here and what stories aren't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 OK so are you going to be the arbiter then about what national newspaper stories are allowed to be discussed in here and what stories aren't? Oh do grow up, of course not. But if you think about it, Koeman says he is not for sale, he is crocked, we didnt sell him to Spurs, do you really think we are going to sell him to Manchester City? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Why start the thread? Because in a major newspaper there is a story linking our top scorer of last season to the champions Is that now worthy of a mention on a saints forum? Strangely you were the only person who thought fit to start the thread. Unlike you to start a negative thread Delldays Tell you what, when Jay signs for City I'll buy you a pint and say well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Tell you waht boys, you carry on worrying about Jay signing for Manchester City. I am off to the pub for a couple of beers and a hog roast. I think I know who will be be having a better afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RinNY Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 My "logic" was if they want him. That will be that, he will go This summer has shown us that more than likely, if players want out we will let them go. More so if they have 12-18 months on their contract and not signed a new one offered You are assuming that JRod will be happy simply to watch Aguero, Dzeko, and Jovetic in training, and get an occasional close-up view of them in games from the bench, while making a lot of money of course, and getting the odd winner's medal for doing nothing. Maybe he is that kind of guy, but I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Oh do grow up, of course not. But if you think about it, Koeman says he is not for sale, he is crocked, we didnt sell him to Spurs, do you really think we are going to sell him to Manchester City? No idea but according to you we aren't even allowed to discuss the possibility. Could it be that they will look to sign him in January if he demonstrates he has recovered with us? Possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 7 September, 2014 Share Posted 7 September, 2014 Personally glad man city are interested because it will inflate the price he is worth more bidders the better when SAINTS decided to sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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