Shane Long

[9-3]

Is he worth 12 million?

[Colinjb]

Human beings are priceless, all life is invaluable.

 

How is Shane Long not worth 12 million?

[mynameisthehulk]

Could be. Wait and see.

[PokingFun]

Yes HTH

[austsaint]

Handy player, but the short answer is no. Consider that Chelsea are paying less for a striker of Remy's class and the answer to your question is obvious.

[angelman]

**** me - I thought we had done this to death when he signed.

[Leicestersaint]

No I fear not.

[Wrensup]

[angelman]

Handy player, but the short answer is no. Consider that Chelsea are paying less for a striker of Remy's class and the answer to your question is obvious.

 

Transfer fees are largely irrelevant by themselves, since Bosman. That is before you take into account that he wouldn't come here.

 

Long - £12m, 4 year deal at (say) £40k per week = total £20.320m

Remy - £10.5m, 4 year deal at (say) £100k a week = total £31.3m

 

Then as I have constantly said, it might also be good to judge his signing by who Hull get in to replace him.

[nta786]

Transfer fees are largely irrelevant by themselves, since Bosman. That is before you take into account that he wouldn't come here.

 

Long - £12m, 4 year deal at (say) £40k per week = total £20.320m

Remy - £10.5m, 4 year deal at (say) £100k a week = total £31.3m

 

Then as I have constantly said, it might also be good to judge his signing by who Hull get in to replace him.

 

Tbh 12m on a foreign import isn't always the best e.g. Kostas Mitroglou last January.

Transfer are gambles- they pay iff or they don't, i also agree eith post above. If Hull spend that money on Abel Hernandez, there is certainly no guarantee he will be better than Long.

[JxgrSaint]

Human beings are priceless, all life is invaluable.

 

How is Shane Long not worth 12 million?

 

According to my mate who's an actuary the average value of a human life is about £100k...

[cellone]

According to my mate who's an actuary the average value of a human life is about £100k...

 

At 41 I'm probably worth a bit less on the other hand my 4 year old is obviously worth more, very young, very hungry and far too quick.

[SarniaSaint]

Maybe or maybe not worth the 12M can only hope that he is

 

was gonna mention Makuyka but dont want to upset the Cortese Brigade LOL

[KelvinsRightGlove]

So, I know some say release clauses are practically non-existent here, but I swear Remy had one? Something to do with it being less for Champions League clubs and then more for offers?

 

Was that right? Has it now expired?

[SuperMikey]

It's not Long's fault that we paid £12m for him - judge him on his performances on the pitch, not what he cost.

[cellone]

Don't think they'll get upset SarnaiSanint

[SarniaSaint]

Don't think they'll get upset SarnaiSanint

 

No airbrushing and spin is what is about

[sadoldgit]

Everything is relative. If we get better service from Long than we did from Osvaldo (which wont be difficult) the you could argue that it has been money well spent.Transfer fees and footballers wages seem to operate in their own universe but I do wonder if the fees quoted ever actually get paid. Given the money we got for Shaw and Chambers I am not going to lose any sleep over what we paid fo Long.

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

I guess he's worth whatever the club were happy to pay for him. Whether that financial payment translates into actual value on the field of play will become apparent over the course of the season(s).

[david in sweden]

It's not Long's fault that we paid £12m for him - judge him on his performances on the pitch, not what he cost.

 

 

.....a more sensible conclusion than the question on the OP.

[Heisenberg]

I think Hull and Steve Bruce were quite smug with the fee, but what good is £12m in the bank

 

Hull are now struggling to replace him

[Greenridge]

Everything is relative. If we get better service from Long than we did from Osvaldo (which wont be difficult) the you could argue that it has been money well spent.Transfer fees and footballers wages seem to operate in their own universe but I do wonder if the fees quoted ever actually get paid. Given the money we got for Shaw and Chambers I am not going to lose any sleep over what we paid fo Long.

 

You doubt we have paid the quoted fees for the players we've bought but happy that we've received the full fees for the players we've sold?

[hans gruber]

I think Hull and Steve Bruce were quite smug with the fee, but what good is £12m in the bank

 

Hull are now struggling to replace him

 

this is absolutely 100% correct.

 

I rate long too... reckon he would be a nightmare to defend against. he really opens up the game and gives the creative guys in the midfield a chance to put some nice passes through

[Beckenham Saint]

Having been wholly against us signing Shane Long at any price, I have now changed my mind completely having seen him play at Millwall on tuesday and West Ham on saturday. I don't think he will be our top goalscorer, or get many assists but he is already going some way to repaying what we spent on him with good performances. He is good on the ball and doesn't let defenders rest. We will win a fair few free kicks in dangerous positions and penalties due to his commitment to running down every ball and he seems a real team player. Think we are a better team for having him.

 

I also think, for what it's worth, that player prices are irrelevant. What matters is that he's a Saints player. Players don't decide how much a club pays for them, and it's not our money any way, so players shouldn't be judged against their price tags, but by how good they are on the pitch.

[Pedro]

Were Lallana. Shaw and Lovren worth their fees, supply and demand.

[angelman]

I think Hull and Steve Bruce were quite smug with the fee, but what good is £12m in the bank

 

Hull are now struggling to replace him

 

 

I guess they are, and I agree with the rest.

 

Sure they got £5m in 8 months. What is interesting though is the press reaction to this. Why didn't they mention the £12m profit we made in a year on Lovren? Lovren in demand and a bit of a scarce resource? Probably, but then we obviously/probably thought the same about Long and what he has to offer. Which comes back to who Hull will (or won't) sign.