Toby Alderweireld Signs on Season Loan - Official

[S-Clarke]

Says the right things, but seems like he's been brought up the right way. Obviously has huge respect for Koeman and has clearly been told (IMO) that he will be first choice alongside Fonte.

 

Will be huge for us.

 

Gardos isn't half bad either! So we're a hell of a lot stronger depth wise at CB than we were last year, and about £14m better off. Huge credit to the club.

[Saint Charlie]

Brilliant You Tube interview.

[S-Clarke]

[The9]

Says the right things, but seems like he's been brought up the right way. Obviously has huge respect for Koeman and has clearly been told (IMO) that he will be first choice alongside Fonte.

 

Will be huge for us.

 

Gardos isn't half bad either! So we're a hell of a lot stronger depth wise at CB than we were last year, and about £14m better off. Huge credit to the club.

 

Contrasts with another thread where it was noted that he's a RCB/RB, as Fonte is also right sided. Hopefully Gardos is not quite fit, as opposed to Forren-fodder.

[The9]

Well finally done. Was really disappointed to see us let chambers go so cheap and so early, so he's got a very high bar to reach in terms of standard. Wonder where he's going to be playing as having him on bench rather than Stephens would be rather strange.

 

I'm pretty sure he's already better than Chambers was for us last season. The interesting thing is whether he and Fonte can play at CB together.

[The9]

Agree, whereas F^ckitupatino managed to attract Pablo Dani Osvaldo..

 

And Lovren. And Wanyama. In the only Transfer Window he was at the club.

[Saint_clark]

 

Who the heck are the other guys? Agents?

[syd_barrett_saint]

Says the right things, but seems like he's been brought up the right way. Obviously has huge respect for Koeman and has clearly been told (IMO) that he will be first choice alongside Fonte.

 

Will be huge for us.

 

Gardos isn't half bad either! So we're a hell of a lot stronger depth wise at CB than we were last year, and about £14m better off. Huge credit to the club.

 

Does anyone think that with 4 decent CBs Koeman might sometimes go for the 3-5-2 he used at Feyenoord? I think we now have the players to do it well (better than Man U, at least)...

 

-----------------------Forster--------------------

 

------Alderweireld----Fonte----Gardos---------

 

---Clyne---Schneiderlin---JWP---Bertrand-----

 

--------------------Tadic-------------------------

 

------------Mane------------Pelle----------------

 

 

Boruc (if he stays?), Yoshida, Targett, Cork, Wanyama, Davis, Long

 

A decent looking subs bench too (would look better with Ramirez, granted). Obviously Wanyama, Cork and Davis would all be challenging JWP for his place. And Long challenging Mane and Pelle up front.

 

I'm not sure I'm super keen on it as it seems a waste not to be able to fit one extra of Wanyama, Cork or Davis in the team. But wouldn't be surprised if Koeman tried to introduce something like this for the odd game at least.

Edited 2 September, 2014 by syd_barrett_saint

[offix]

Does anyone think that with 4 decent CBs Koeman might sometimes go for the 3-5-2 he used at Feyenoord? I think we now have the players to do it well (better than Man U, at least)...

 

-----------------------Forster--------------------

 

------Alderweireld----Fonte----Gardos---------

 

---Clyne---Schneiderlin---JWP---Bertrand-----

 

--------------------Tadic-------------------------

 

------------Mane------------Pelle----------------

 

 

Boruc (if he stays?), Yoshida, Targett, Cork, Wanyama, Davis, Long

 

A decent looking subs bench too (would look better with Ramirez, granted). Obviously Wanyama, Cork and Davis would all be challenging JWP for his place. And Long challenging Mane and Pelle up front.

 

I'm not sure I'm super keen on it as it seems a waste not to be able to fit one extra of Wanyama, Cork or Davis in the team. But wouldn't be surprised if Koeman tried to introduce something like this for the odd game at least.

 

That looks absolutely awesome. If Alderweireld and Gardos live up to expectations that could be a high scoring and hard to beat team.

[tpbury]

Great first name! Though I thought it was more commonly a dog's name in Europe, at least that's what every single person I ever met there said to me.

[Cascadia Saint]

Class signing. I'm loving the loan deals with a view to purchase. Imagine if we'd have done the same with Osvaldo...

[Toon Saint]

Alongside Tadic probably our smartest signing of the summer, very impressed.

[Torrent Of Abuse]

That looks absolutely awesome. If Alderweireld and Gardos live up to expectations that could be a high scoring and hard to beat team.

Agreed actually. I've never considered a 3-4-1-2 as I just feel it leaves you exposed not having 4 at the back - but the idea of such pace at full-back, solidity in the middle, creativity behind a front two that has pace and power does seem exciting on paper at least. You could also swap Wanyama for JWP in games where more solidity was required.

[Under Weststand]

Very good signing well done Saints. Welcome Toby

[Saint George]

Class signing. I'm loving the loan deals with a view to purchase. Imagine if we'd have done the same with Osvaldo...

 

Do you really think we'll get a chance to sign them next year if they're any good?....Nope, they'll be out of here and off to Liverpool quicker than you can say 'Taider' and we won't see a dime for it either.

 

'Wreck It's' new foundations built on shifting sand.

[CB Fry]

Do you really think we'll get a chance to sign them next year if they're any good?....Nope, they'll be out of here and off to Liverpool quicker than you can say 'Taider' and we won't see a dime for it either.

 

'Wreck It's' new foundations built on shifting sand.

 

That'll be a grand total of two loans, one in a position where we also spent £8m on one player and extended the contract of another key man.

 

And the other loan is in a position where the club will hope our young back up will flourish over the next twelve months.

 

Or, if the worst happens and our "foundations" are destroyed we might have to, gosh, try and purchase a left back next summer. I mean, the club is doomed and no mistake.

[EBS1980]

Anyone think saints announced the deals late to add to the drama?

 

Look at the time on Tobys watch in the pictures. Surely they were taken after he agreed to sign? Unless we were just waiting for it to be confirmed by FA before confirming?

[Saint Fan CaM]

Looks like a fantastic signing...the new look side could be quite formidable and the squad depth is also looking much better too.

[syd_barrett_saint]

Do you really think we'll get a chance to sign them next year if they're any good?....Nope, they'll be out of here and off to Liverpool quicker than you can say 'Taider' and we won't see a dime for it either.

 

'Wreck It's' new foundations built on shifting sand.

 

Oh do shut up, you silly tart.

[Monkou]

This could be our best signing since Rickie Lambert. Well done do all at the club who have got their heads down, ignored the hysteria and put together a decent looking side out of the ashes of last season.

 

Wonder if Robbie Savage still thinks we are relegation material..

[Cascadia Saint]

Do you really think we'll get a chance to sign them next year if they're any good?....Nope, they'll be out of here and off to Liverpool quicker than you can say 'Taider' and we won't see a dime for it either.

 

'Wreck It's' new foundations built on shifting sand.

 

Haha! And there's no trolls on this board apparently.

[Greenridge]

Haha! And there's no trolls on this board apparently.

 

Having looked at your recent posting history it would seem you are one of the trolls you are referring to.

 

Give it a rest and enjoy the position we find ourselves in as a club.

[Mattio]

Anyone think saints announced the deals late to add to the drama?

 

Look at the time on Tobys watch in the pictures. Surely they were taken after he agreed to sign? Unless we were just waiting for it to be confirmed by FA before confirming?

 

[DuncanRG]

Anyone think saints announced the deals late to add to the drama?

 

Look at the time on Tobys watch in the pictures. Surely they were taken after he agreed to sign? Unless we were just waiting for it to be confirmed by FA before confirming?

 

Koeman did his interview on signing Mané in broad daylight!

[Cascadia Saint]

Having looked at your recent posting history it would seem you are one of the trolls you are referring to.

 

Give it a rest and enjoy the position we find ourselves in as a club.

 

You're hilarious.

[Pancake]

Top signing, top bloke. Top name.

[S-Clarke]

Do you really think we'll get a chance to sign them next year if they're any good?....Nope, they'll be out of here and off to Liverpool quicker than you can say 'Taider' and we won't see a dime for it either.

 

'Wreck It's' new foundations built on shifting sand.

 

At least it's not built on Cortese's castle of paper cups though, I mean that would be a disaster.

[flynnad]

He's got all de vereld in his hands...

 

It's a work in progress!

[Matthew Le God]

The Spanish FM research team believes he is on £81k p/w at Atletico Madrid!

 

Also that the option to buy in the loan is for €10m.

[Tokyo-Saint]

Defiantly £ not euros MLG? I know how slap dash you can be.

 

Also, any idea on the higher rate of tax over there?

[Matthew Le God]

Defiantly £ not euros MLG? I know how slap dash you can be.

 

Also, any idea on the higher rate of tax over there?

 

£81k p/w wages

 

€10m/£7.9m option to buy

[Tokyo-Saint]

How do they know the option to buy?

 

Also, any idea of the initial loan fee?

[The9]

Well finally done. Was really disappointed to see us let chambers go so cheap and so early, so he's got a very high bar to reach in terms of standard. Wonder where he's going to be playing as having him on bench rather than Stephens would be rather strange.

 

The third most expensive Arsenal signing in their entire history. He cost more than twice what Dennis Bergkamp did, and the same amount that Arsenal received from Barcelona for selling Thierry Henry (who also cost them £6m less than Chambers did to buy). Even considering inflation that's still an extraordinary fee for a back up right back.

[farawaysaint]

£81k p/w wages

 

€10m/£7.9m option to buy

 

Not a chance we are paying that right?

 

It would however explain why we offloaded Gaston as his wages will just about cover Toby's.

[farawaysaint]

The third most expensive Arsenal signing in their entire history. He cost more than twice what Dennis Bergkamp did, and the same amount that Arsenal received from Barcelona for selling Thierry Henry (who also cost them £6m less than Chambers did to buy). Even considering inflation that's still an extraordinary fee for a back up right back.

 

If you consider inflation Henry cost twice what Chambers did. (30 mill or so)

[S-Clarke]

Not a chance we are paying that right?

 

It would however explain why we offloaded Gaston as his wages will just about cover Toby's.

 

I reckon it's probably 50/50, or 60/40. I hope he realises he's taking a drop if he joins us on a long-term deal...

[georgeweahscousin]

Traditional lowdown piece:-

 

http://georgeweahscousin.com/2014/09/02/alder-right-noises-toby-is-a-saint/

[SuperSAINT]

Traditional lowdown piece:-

 

http://georgeweahscousin.com/2014/09/02/alder-right-noises-toby-is-a-saint/

 

Good read, Chris - Looking forward to the Mane article.

[sotonist]

The deals for Shaw & Lallana were agreed before the World Cup. I'm told a deal has also been agreed for the sale of Morgan too. The board are a bunch of liars. They did the deals whilst we were managerless and lied to the fans. I've got a good source for this stuff. A lot of what I've been told will make Saints fans sick. It's certainly made me pretty angry.

My source (a scout) told me of 2 Dutch players he expects to join Saints. I can't remember the names, sorry. Neither were players I'd heard of. When I asked what he thought of them he just said that he'd seem one of them and he'd make an average championship player. He went on to ask if I remembered JVD? He then laughed and said you can expect more signings like that than household names.

I've a horrible feeling that our transfer kitty is about to be spunked up the wall by a man who won't be in charge at the end of the season.

**** me, he was right. Belgian international defender from the Ajax academy.

[Chez]

And Lovren. And Wanyama. In the only Transfer Window he was at the club.

 

he was here for the last January window as well. Didn't sign anyone mind you.

[sotonist]

he was here for the last January window as well. Didn't sign anyone mind you.

 

his head wasn't

[The9]

If you consider inflation Henry cost twice what Chambers did. (30 mill or so)

 

Er, no. Henry cost Arsenal £10.5m in 1999, using http://www.whatsthecost.com/cpi.aspx for historical inflation rates, "£10,500,000.00 in 1999 is equivalent to £14,258,083.22 in 2014".

 

That's still £1.8m less than Chambers is believed to have cost.

[OldNick]

Pretty boy centre halfs always worry me. They need to have broken noses and scars

[sotonist]

Er, no. Henry cost Arsenal £10.5m in 1999, using http://www.whatsthecost.com/cpi.aspx for historical inflation rates, "£10,500,000.00 in 1999 is equivalent to £14,258,083.22 in 2014".

 

That's still £1.8m less than Chambers is believed to have cost.

 

consumer and retail inflation indexes are no guide to relative values in football over that time.

[The9]

he was here for the last January window as well. Didn't sign anyone mind you.

 

Fair point. Should have reworded it to "the only summer transfer window" or "the only transfer window in which he signed anyone". Pretty sure as he was unveiled at the same time as Forren he didn't have much input into the previous one.

[ThreeSixty]

Er, no. Henry cost Arsenal £10.5m in 1999, using http://www.whatsthecost.com/cpi.aspx for historical inflation rates, "£10,500,000.00 in 1999 is equivalent to £14,258,083.22 in 2014".

 

That's still £1.8m less than Chambers is believed to have cost.

 

I think you could argue football has had its own more substantial inflation rate.

[The9]

consumer and retail inflation indexes are no guide to relative values in football over that time.

 

I'm talking about ACTUAL INFLATION as in the relationship between normal UK-based human beings and the value of money, not some made up football transfer index.

[The9]

I think you could argue football has had its own more substantial inflation rate.

 

Of course, but it's irrelevant to the point I was making, seeing as, you know, I'm defining the criteria and all.

[farawaysaint]

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Edited 2 September, 2014 by farawaysaint

[The9]

Oh, and whilst I'm here, I think Alderweireld is potentially an excellent signing. Remains to be seen who he replaces in the team, but looks like a very good player and for a very reasonable price*.

 

*using some arbitrary football inflation index based on everyone having loads of cash, so no-one bothers telling me he cost almost as much as Chris Sutton or something.