Colinjb Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 In terms of quality of course. I meant more that of all our signings, only Gardos looks like someone the scouts have picked up. The others were either obvious or known and recommended by Koeman. As someone who played in the world cup, surely Taider would have been reasonably obvious for any reasonable scouting department?
angelman Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Maybe Koeman underestimated Cork. It seems that MP did last season, so maybe RK did as well.
SarniaSaint Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 One day, we'll look back on this transfer window and laugh. Utter ****ing shambles. Welcome to the Dark Side:)
Greenridge Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 He is sick of the women You wasted your £5. Do Sassuolo have a fans forum?
aintforever Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Bizarre, but at least we've got time for a replacement.
Colinjb Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 You wasted your £5. Do Sassuolo have a fans forum? The existing poster who set that up wasted a fiver you mean. That terrible joke didn't last long.
S-Clarke Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Maybe Koeman underestimated Cork. I never understood it, for CMs we were strong anyway. Cork, Davis, Reed and JWP can all fill in if Wanyama or Schneiderlin are out. I reckon it's more of a case that the Morgan situation totally changed.
Bewildered Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Simon Peach @SimonPeach 23s Taider is understood to have failed to fit in with the group & manager Ronald Koeman's work ethic. Best for both parties. update from Simon Peach on why he is going.
S-Clarke Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 update from Simon Peach on why he is going. The 20 scouts did well on this one!
Pastor Patrón Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Yes I'm sure the whole football world are talking about you. Ignorance mixed with arrogance, that's a good combination. You are proper weird bro
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 I don't like saying this and I hope I am wrong but I am so reminded how we let Shearer go and got in Dixon and Speedie, neither of whom wanted to be here. It ended in tears very quickly. I remain to be convinced by Les Reed, as I type we have 72 hours left in the market place and we are less strong than we were at the season's end.
angelman Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 The 20 scouts did well on this one! I would have thought it impossible to know whether the rest of the group thought he was a **** until he arrived. ****ishness is not something the scouts usually measure.
Saint Without a Halo Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Even our new players now don't want to stay ? Am still waiting for the huge number of excellent players contacting Reed and desperate to join to help us kick on!
Crab Lungs Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Wasn't he having a bit of fun in the hotel he was staying at too?
pangy Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Jesus wept,just when the football world had stopped laughing at us,we go and make ourselves look like fools again I am just thankful that they are laughing more at Man U
sydneysaint17 Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Not concerned that we've lost him, if RK thinks we need a replacement then we have time to get one. More interested in the reasons why is going...Seems like a combination of him not liking the city of Southampton as much as Milan (utter shock), not fitting in with the squad due to language/cultural barriers, Morgan now staying and Cork proving himself to Koeman. If it makes sense for all parties then I haven't got a problem with it - does seem unlikely that we'd have a contingency plan for this situation though given that, as far I'm aware, its unprecedented. Fear not though, Les Reed will be on the first plane back from Benidorm to sort it all out
Saint Charlie Posted 29 August, 2014 Author Posted 29 August, 2014 I would have thought it impossible to know whether the rest of the group thought he was a **** until he arrived. ****ishness is not something the scouts usually measure. Ability to and likelihood of a player adapting to a new environment and football style most certain is something assessed though.
doddisalegend Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport 38s I was told last week that Taider has struggled to adapt to physical demands of PL & #saintsfc training regime under RK & was off the pac As he hasn't actually played a PL game yet how would anyone, including the player, know that.
Wade Garrett Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 It appears we brought in a player with absolutely no checks on his suitability for our game. Well done Les, you f*cking bellend. Might as well have David Brent as our Director of Football. Absolute joke. I have been drinking.
angelman Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Jesus wept,just when the football world had stopped laughing at us,we go and make ourselves look like fools again I am just thankful that they are laughing more at Man U Some posters on here are really strange. Why is it that the club is a laughing stock by admitting that things hadn't worked out? To me, while it might not be an ideal situation, far better for all parties to do this, than let him fester away in the background. So it was a mistake - not a major one, and one that has been resolved pretty quickly. So why exactly is the club a laughing stock? Would be rather naive to think that all transfers took place without any hitches. And the reaction to someone leaving who has never played for us, and by sounds of it, never would, is hysterical. Would people have preferred him to sit on the bench for the season and never play just so the club could pretend that a slight misjudgement hadn't been made or for the club to take the pragmatic path?
Lighthouse Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Jesus wept,just when the football world had stopped laughing at us,we go and make ourselves look like fools again I am just thankful that they are laughing more at Man U No, they were never laughing at us to begin with. Apart from maybe Hull fans when we spent £12m on Shane Long. Nobody else is going to give a sh*t about this. The Soccer Saturday panel will probably spend 30 seconds saying, 'yeah that deal obviously didn't play out' but that's about it. If anything people will be laughing at Taider for bottling it after a month.
sentry Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Strange. But best to move on now rather than in 4 days. In all walks of life people struggle to adapt to countries/jobs/work colleges. It obviously happens in football too, just a shame its us after all the other players leaving. I never saw him myself but by all accounts he was good in the friendly and the under21 games he played in.
JxgrSaint Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 I would have thought it impossible to know whether the rest of the group thought he was a **** until he arrived. ****ishness is not something the scouts usually measure. Although the wearing of SnapBack caps is a pretty good rule of thumb for cûntishness...
pangy Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 No, they were never laughing at us to begin with. Apart from maybe Hull fans when we spent £12m on Shane Long. Nobody else is going to give a sh*t about this. The Soccer Saturday panel will probably spend 30 seconds saying, 'yeah that deal obviously didn't play out' but that's about it. If anything people will be laughing at Taider for bottling it after a month. It was a tongue in cheek comment.......however the football world was laughing at us and laughing hard,the jokes about having no players / exodus etc etc after being sold was going on for weeks
Halo Stickman Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Perhaps it was all those fùcking train journeys that p1ssed him off.
SarniaSaint Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 I don't like saying this and I hope I am wrong but I am so reminded how we let Shearer go and got in Dixon and Speedie, neither of whom wanted to be here. It ended in tears very quickly. I remain to be convinced by Les Reed, as I type we have 72 hours left in the market place and we are less strong than we were at the season's end. You're not the only one. Think he is out of his depth IMO.
LostBoys Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 I thought he looked good with a good range of passing and I was surprised he did not play at Millwall
scotty Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 No, they were never laughing at us to begin with. Apart from maybe Hull fans when we spent £12m on Shane Long. Nobody else is going to give a sh*t about this. The Soccer Saturday panel will probably spend 30 seconds saying, 'yeah that deal obviously didn't play out' but that's about it. If anything people will be laughing at Taider for bottling it after a month. Pompey are laughing, and that's official. The resident skate on the sicki forum pointed out that taider lasted longer here than ali dia.
Greenridge Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 I thought he looked good with a good range of passing and I was surprised he did not play at Millwall Sounds like he's been for the off pretty much since he arrived so playing him against Millwall, even if he was still in the country, would have been a pointless exercise.
funkymojo44 Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Shame, if he's found it difficult with too many changes both in terms of culture and football then fair play to him for at least being honest and admitting it. I'm a bit confused by this thread though, seems some fans think it's a damming case against Reed and our scouts. Hate to break it to you but sometimes it doesn't work out, no matter how much planning and diligence is carried out. Footballers are human beings after all and it seems the usual posters on here need to be reminded of that.
saintbletch Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Could it be that it suits us to let him go as we've missed our other permanent targets and this frees up a place for another loanee?
S-Clarke Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Could it be that it suits us to let him go as we've missed our other permanent targets and this frees up a place for another loanee? Surely it doesn't matter either way? We only have one international loan, I think we can have up to 4?
saintbletch Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Surely it doesn't matter either way? We only have one international loan, I think we can have up to 4? I guess not then. Unless we're bringing in a ****load before Monday...
ART Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Not getting even 5 minutes in any of games must have really p i ss ed him off especially after scoring in the Reserve game. To sit on the bench watching how awful we played must have been too much to take. I guess he doesn't fit in with the Group when he's probably been told by Skate supporters Saints are a bunch of pony sh**gers. Will be interesting to see how well he does in future. Won't help us bring in new players who'll be asking questions about what went wrong. You couldn't make it up all we've had to ensure since Cortese left.
Saint_clark Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Part of me thinks that he was signed as a replacement for Cork, who has since proved himself to be better (to the management).
Lighthouse Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Pompey are laughing, and that's official. The resident skate on the sicki forum pointed out that taider lasted longer here than ali dia. If a Pompey fan laughing because a loan player who has never played for us has left, I don't think I will sleep tonight. Seriously, I can't get too upset about a team 3 League below us taking the p*ss. Not when players like Taider would walk into their team.
S-Clarke Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 I guess not then. Unless we're bringing in a ****load before Monday... I think it was just a very poorly researched addition, brought in at a time when Morgan was going. The goal posts have changed in that respect, and it turns out that Tadier didn't really want to be here in the first place. All clubs have transfer howlers, but Forren, Osvaldo, Mayuka and now Tadier look like total nightmares for us!
washsaint Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 what a bunch of bedwetting, hysterical T**ts on here. boo hooo f'in hooo. Taider didn't work out. Question for the usual t***ts: would you rather we kept Taider or Morgan? Just asking like............
Batman Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 what a bunch of bedwetting, hysterical T**ts on here. boo hooo f'in hooo. Taider didn't work out. Question for the usual t***ts: would you rather we kept Taider or Morgan? Just asking like............ Was it a choice between the two?
St Chalet Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Still, I worked out how to post the ï letter as a result of his brief stay.
Saint Billy Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Still, I worked out how to post the ï letter as a result of his brief stay. Good for you but I have still not worked out what the 3 was all about.
Lighthouse Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 I think it was just a very poorly researched addition, brought in at a time when Morgan was going. The goal posts have changed in that respect, and it turns out that Tadier didn't really want to be here in the first place. All clubs have transfer howlers, but Forren, Osvaldo, Mayuka and now Tadier look like total nightmares for us! Only Osvaldo is a nightmare. The amount of money lost on the other three is relatively small. If we'd beaten Stoke on the last day of the season a couple of years ago, the difference in prize money would have covered one of their transfers by itself.
Baird of the land Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Seems a bit shambolic. As others have said given the strength in midfield it was a rather strange loan in the first place.
alpine_saint Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 Very odd. Clearly not much due diligence done with this one. Indeed. I still think we took an Inter player to stop loan fees being exchanged, even if the deals are "separate". And Taider was top of a short list of utterly average players. Hope Stevegrant is big enough to apologise for his abuse the other day...
sadoldgit Posted 29 August, 2014 Posted 29 August, 2014 FFS what is wrong with the people on this board? He was not a starter and reaised quite quickly that he couldnt settle here but somehow the sky has fallen in. Get a grip!!!
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