ART Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 (edited) Just when are these bar stewards going to give us a rest? Who is behind the campaign to unsettle our club, our players? Just when is it going to stop or what can we as supporters do to put a spoke in their wheel? James Ward-Prowse is yet another gem from Southampton's conveyor belt of young talent... Saints fans could be waving goodbye if he continues at this rate http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2728878/James-Ward-Prowse-gem-Southampton-s-conveyor-belt-young-talent.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 Edited 19 August, 2014 by St Chalet Last warning for cut and pasting copyright material Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 I beat you in the press watch thread but yeah, disgusting article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 GRRRRR. F**king c**ting arseholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 "Ward-Prowse, Ward-Prowse, so good they named him twice" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Prowsey is the soccerball equivalent of a young william hague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratio_decidendi Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 If you really wanted to stop them publishing this kind of article then you'd stop reposting the link and raising awareness about it. And in any case, don't be so sensitive. It's a compliment that our younger players are consistently linked with moves to bigger clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Lets just hope none of the 'bigger' team managers read the Daily Mail then. I'm sure until the paper wrote that article none of the managers had ever heard of him, ever. At All. No siree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Don't wet yourself fART. It's only football after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 They are right If he continues to develop and have a good season He will be gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 They are right If he continues to develop and have a good season He will be gone His head's at Portsmouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 I see it as being complimentary to us that they are highlighting another of our academy players and forecasting that he will be as big a star as the others they mentioned. OK, they put the slant on it that he will follow the paths the others took in moving to bigger clubs, but then that is almost inevitable. The message that gets across to the wider football audience isn't that we will suffer from losing him, but moreover that Southampton have done it again, kept the conveyor belt of young English stars chugging on. Let the Mail produce another article if they want, highlighting the next stars who are close to following Ward-Prowse into the team and then onto better things eventually. It's all free publicity for us, raising our profile yet again. I think that Ward-Prowse might be a bit different from the others in that he has a father who is a Barrister, therefore not the usual family background and probably a bit more circumspect about the timing of his son's progression. In many ways he would probably do better to stay here until his mid 20s, and then make a really big move, with luck, having enhanced his reputation with England national team credentials and a string of man of the match performances for us. I think he's a sensible lad, whose head won't be turned quite so easily by the bright lights and the ego boost of playing for the top clubs, anyway not until he has enjoyed himself here, close to family and friends first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 I hope he signs for Liverpool so we can have the hilarious headline James Ward- Scouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 I hope he signs for Liverpool so we can have the hilarious headline James Ward- Scouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 They are right If he continues to develop and have a good season He will be gone Do ever have a positive view about SFC? You are getting more like Alpine by the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Do ever have a positive view about SFC? You are getting more like Alpine by the day What is negative about that We would get loads of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 What is negative about that We would get loads of money Perhaps you should read your own post and work it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Perhaps you should read your own post and work it out Do you think he will stay if he has. Standout season and a champions league side comes in for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Do you think he will stay if he has. Standout season and a champions league side comes in for him? No idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Do you think he will stay if he has. Standout season and a champions league side comes in for him? I do actually. I reckon 2 seasons and then he has his pick of moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 It seems to me that we are on to something. Strengthen the club progressively by making the greedy big clubs pay through the nose for academy players or other players such a Schneiderlin and Lovren etc that they covet and replacing them with good players for half the price. I'm pretty happy with the players we have seen so far and I'm sure I'm not alone in looking forward to the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 It seems that we are now at a level where we either develop our own players or buy those that the Big Boys won't take a chance on, give them PL experience, and once they have proved that they can cope, the Big Boys come in. So I can see us buying plenty of c£10m players and then selling them soon after for a large mark up. Not a great scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 It seems that we are now at a level where we either develop our own players or buy those that the Big Boys won't take a chance on, give them PL experience, and once they have proved that they can cope, the Big Boys come in. So I can see us buying plenty of c£10m players and then selling them soon after for a large mark up. Not a great scenario. I thought that was the model we were adopting? Not a bad model just don't sell Everyone at once! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Yup, seems like we are going to be the Big Boys' bïtch. I think it owuld be naive to think that we can limit it to one per season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Yup, seems like we are going to be the Big Boys' bïtch. I think it owuld be naive to think that we can limit it to one per season. I think that is exactly what we should do. Tell the squad that only one will be allowed to join a top 4 team and let them fight to prove who is best. We win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Like Schneiderlin? He wont be here after january think we all know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 They are right If he continues to develop and have a good season He will be gone You really are a little ray of sunshine arent you? You do not know that for certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Sell him for £27m next summer buy two more Tadic's and Saints go marching onwards and upwards! Let them big him up all they like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 He's not going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 He wont be here after january think we all know that Everyone seemed to know he wouldn't play on Sunday as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 I thought Gem Ward-Prowse was a typo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Everyone seemed to know he wouldn't play on Sunday as well. Yes, egg running all down the faces of several people who assured us all that he would never play for us again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 I'm lucky I don't get to see the Mail, Sun, Mirror, etc. So I think there is someone trying to destabalize the club. Now could be anyone, but who used the Mail as his mouthpiece?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 It seems that we are now at a level where we either develop our own players or buy those that the Big Boys won't take a chance on, give them PL experience, and once they have proved that they can cope, the Big Boys come in. So I can see us buying plenty of c£10m players and then selling them soon after for a large mark up. Not a great scenario. Celtic take those that the PL clubs won't take a chance on, and once they've proven they can cope, we come in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Is this all part of the master plan, raising the profile of the academy? Means kids will want to come here instead of the big guns as they'll get game time and a big money move, we utilise them in our squad, make a wedge and with every move the standing of the club and academy increases - and round and round we go. Plus wasn't there mention of the club selling our expertise on youth development round the world............. You can bet that the current crop of bods in charge have looked very carefully at a way to make the football model sustainable/profitable not only from a sensible business point of view but to match in with the rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 Yup, seems like we are going to be the Big Boys' bïtch. I think it owuld be naive to think that we can limit it to one per season. I think it's naive to think we can produce more than one player per season who's good enough to step up to that level. This current crop are a freak happening, in that they all came through around the same time, the likes of which only really Man U and West Ham have had before. One, at best two, every two/three seasons is about the normal rate. Even for a club with an academy such as ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 Is this all part of the master plan, raising the profile of the academy? Means kids will want to come here instead of the big guns as they'll get game time and a big money move, we utilise them in our squad, make a wedge and with every move the standing of the club and academy increases - and round and round we go. This would be a logical assumption, but our good friend Ben Smith tells us that the direct opposite happened! http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28593032 "Perhaps most worrying of all, is the fear the discontent might spread to the club's highly regarded academy. The parents of one 15-year-old player have already decided they no longer want their son to stay on at the club amid the uncertainty. The question now is where will it all end? When will it all stop?" Well, Ben, you tell us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 This would be a logical assumption, but our good friend Ben Smith tells us that the direct opposite happened! http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28593032 "Perhaps most worrying of all, is the fear the discontent might spread to the club's highly regarded academy. The parents of one 15-year-old player have already decided they no longer want their son to stay on at the club amid the uncertainty. The question now is where will it all end? When will it all stop?" Well, Ben, you tell us... It was plainly a ludicrous statement for Smith to make. Did anybody identify this player who is alleged to have been pulled out of the academy by his parents? Where has he gone instead? His parents probably realised that their kid wasn't good enough for us and decided to use this as an excuse for withdrawing him before he was let go by us, in order to save face and spare their poor darling the embarassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 It was plainly a ludicrous statement for Smith to make. Did anybody identify this player who is alleged to have been pulled out of the academy by his parents? Where has he gone instead? His parents probably realised that their kid wasn't good enough for us and decided to use this as an excuse for withdrawing him before he was let go by us, in order to save face and spare their poor darling the embarassment. Didn't happen to be either Poch's or Cortese's son did it… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 Paper's will constantly be looking for the next gem to link in their rumour mills. What i'm less certain of is our steeliness in refusing to sell our rising stars prematurely. If JWP has a good season, will he be ushered out the door immediately like Chambers etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 Paper's will constantly be looking for the next gem to link in their rumour mills. What i'm less certain of is our steeliness in refusing to sell our rising stars prematurely. If JWP has a good season, will he be ushered out the door immediately like Chambers etc? Surely that has more to do with us firstly getting a price that we cannot resist accepting and secondly whether we or the player want to stay or go. If J W-P has a really good season, I would expect that we would be very happy to keep him for the next few seasons, unless the manager had other plans or J W-P wanted to leave and we got stupid money for him. The media are starting to build him up as potentially the next Beckham, and if he delivers on that early promise, then it will be difficult to keep him here, but he won't go cheaply either if several glory clubs wanted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broken spoke Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 I would prefer if the media would refer to him being the next "MLT" not Beckham... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 Didn't happen to be either Poch's or Cortese's son did it… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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