JxgrSaint Posted 19 August, 2014 Posted 19 August, 2014 http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/news/35800/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Saw this article and was astonished that we haven't come from behind to win since Adkins was in charge, we all know Poch had no Plan B but I never realised it was quite that bad. As mentioned in the article, having strength in depth and useful options on the bench will allow us to adapt to games and have that Plan B that so eluded Pochettino. Hopefully it will allow Koeman to change systems to chase games if necessary. Anyway, thought it was interesting...
Lazlo78 Posted 19 August, 2014 Posted 19 August, 2014 http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/news/35800/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Saw this article and was astonished that we haven't come from behind to win since Adkins was in charge, we all know Poch had no Plan B but I never realised it was quite that bad. As mentioned in the article, having strength in depth and useful options on the bench will allow us to adapt to games and have that Plan B that so eluded Pochettino. Hopefully it will allow Koeman to change systems to chase games if necessary. Anyway, thought it was interesting... It wouldn't be difficult to see e.g. Bertrand and Clyne as WBs in a 3-5-2 with Long and Pellè playing together. Not enough quality CBs perhaps, but we have the players to shuffle things around a bit!
david in sweden Posted 19 August, 2014 Posted 19 August, 2014 the absence of a Plan B has always concerned me in the past. It's OK to praise teams for playing good football, but what happens when you go behind and /or the opposition have sussed out how you play?. The fact that we did so well last season, doesn't take away the fact that if you analyse our losses there is a common factor in that we had no alternative formation. Koeman will undoubtedly start with different formations (according to the opposition) and perhaps change the pattern when needed. As the article pointed out ...having players capable of changing role midway into a match is a real advantage. **interesting that Ronald Koeman s "world record " for goals scored by a defender / midfielder may point the way to seeing more players finding the net and not just being reliant on one or two strikers.
Smirking_Saint Posted 19 August, 2014 Posted 19 August, 2014 Back to the no plan be arguement.... Sigh What did you want to see ? Hoofball ?
Toon Saint Posted 19 August, 2014 Posted 19 August, 2014 The revisionism begins apace. Spurs fans were praising Poch for his 'brave' early double substitution against Wham on Saturday following Naughton's red card. MOTD pundits were also suggesting that Koeman's subs (bringing Long on for Tadic, and Isgrove on for Davis) actually swung the game back into Liverpool's favour as we lost the shape that was previously causing them so many problems. What does that prove? Not much, but probably better to wait more than one game before drawing such conclusions.
shurlock Posted 19 August, 2014 Posted 19 August, 2014 The mythical plan b, the holy grail of soccerball, the alchemy of hipsters and jamie redknapp, the loch ness monster of mongboards. Plan b- let me know when you find it and tell me what it looks like.
Aziz Yebda Posted 19 August, 2014 Posted 19 August, 2014 The mythical plan b, the holy grail of soccerball, the alchemy of hipsters and jamie redknapp, the loch ness monster of mongboards. Plan b- let me know when you find it and tell me what it looks like.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 19 August, 2014 Posted 19 August, 2014 FFS Glasgow! I troll afternoons, you troll evenings and weekends, deal?
Professor Posted 19 August, 2014 Posted 19 August, 2014 The revisionism begins apace. Spurs fans were praising Poch for his 'brave' early double substitution against Wham on Saturday following Naughton's red card. MOTD pundits were also suggesting that Koeman's subs (bringing Long on for Tadic, and Isgrove on for Davis) actually swung the game back into Liverpool's favour as we lost the shape that was previously causing them so many problems. What does that prove? Not much, but probably better to wait more than one game before drawing such conclusions. The substitutions at Liverpool could both be attributed to other good reasons, rather than tactical changes. Tadic may not have been considered fit enough to do a full 90 mins and Davis may have been taken of because he had made a few errors.
Toon Saint Posted 19 August, 2014 Posted 19 August, 2014 The substitutions at Liverpool could both be attributed to other good reasons, rather than tactical changes. Tadic may not have been considered fit enough to do a full 90 mins and Davis may have been taken of because he had made a few errors. Wasn't quite my point. I was merely suggesting that the re-imagining of Poch as tactically inflexible (without a 'plan b') and Koeman as the answer to his deficiencies, deserves a bit more context than one game. Spurs fans might rightly point to their game against Wham and tell us that he was able to shuffle his pack mid-game and grind out a win, despite being hampered by having only 10 men.
Highfield Saint Posted 19 August, 2014 Posted 19 August, 2014 Taider Aziz!! Is it really you? I wasnt sure but then I recognised the photo!! So great to hear from you - I hope all is well for you and your brothers. How is you mother? Does she still talk about me? I still miss her and think of her sometimes.
Aziz Yebda Posted 19 August, 2014 Posted 19 August, 2014 Aziz!! Is it really you? I wasnt sure but then I recognised the photo!! So great to hear from you - I hope all is well for you and your brothers. How is you mother? Does she still talk about me? I still miss her and think of her sometimes. My mother died shortly after you visited, something to do with rib cage shattering due to laughter. Sorry to tell you this news.
FloridaMarlin Posted 19 August, 2014 Posted 19 August, 2014 The mythical plan b, the holy grail of soccerball, the alchemy of hipsters and jamie redknapp, the loch ness monster of mongboards. Plan b- let me know when you find it and tell me what it looks like. Mourinho had one at St Mary's last season. Helped, of course, by £60m of talent he was able to being off the bench. But he sussed us out, made changes and won the game. It wasn't rocket science and it was plain to see to most fans with a gramme of football knowledge that he had done something differerently, even if they couldn't work out exactly what it. Good managers have a back-up plan. That plan is more than partially dictated by the players at your disposal, but Mourinho embarrassed Poch at St Marys.
shurlock Posted 19 August, 2014 Posted 19 August, 2014 Mourinho had one at St Mary's last season. Helped, of course, by £60m of talent he was able to being off the bench. But he sussed us out, made changes and won the game. It wasn't rocket science and it was plain to see to most fans with a gramme of football knowledge that he had done something differerently, even if they couldn't work out exactly what it. Good managers have a back-up plan. That plan is more than partially dictated by the players at your disposal, but Mourinho embarrassed Poch at St Marys. Agree the Chelsea games were the ones where we really struggled to impose ourselves. That said, Chelsea failed to break down Wham, Norwich, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Aston Villa etc, so plan b syndrome happens to the best supposed managers and players; if so, holding up managers to an unachievable standard seems a tad unfair. At times, its better to just give credit to the opposition's defending.
Highfield Saint Posted 19 August, 2014 Posted 19 August, 2014 My mother died shortly after you visited, something to do with rib cage shattering due to laughter. Sorry to tell you this news. You don't change do you! You are such a funny guy!!
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