tisspahars Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Touched on aftertiming here before and the stick SD has got for his miss highlights it perfectly. His mistake was not one of decision making, but execution. "Just put your laces through it ffs" seems to be the consensus. If he had placed it neatly in the corner that would have been "what a calm measured finish, resisted the temptation to blast it and made it look easy". And if, God forbid, he had put his laces through it and skied it over the bar "why oh why could he not show a bit of composure?". Very easy to say what could/should have happened when you've seen the result after the outcome.
tisspahars Posted 18 August, 2014 Author Posted 18 August, 2014 Touched on aftertiming here before and the stick SD has got for his miss highlights it perfectly. His mistake was not one of decision making, but execution. "Just put your laces through it ffs" seems to be the consensus. If he had placed it neatly in the corner that would have been "what a calm measured finish, resisted the temptation to blast it and made it look easy". And if, God forbid, he had put his laces through it and skied it over the bar "why oh why could he not show a bit of composure?". Very easy to say what could/should have happened when you've seen the result after the outcome.
Viking Saint Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Probably more relevant is irrespective of how he hit it, laces, side foot whatever, the placement was straight at Mignolet and he didn't have to move to make a comfortable save....at this level, you at least expect efforts on goal to make the keeper move...agree it's easier said than done but it's what they're paid to do.
Viking Saint Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Probably more relevant is irrespective of how he hit it, laces, side foot whatever, the placement was straight at Mignolet and he didn't have to move to make a comfortable save....at this level, you at least expect efforts on goal to make the keeper move...agree it's easier said than done but it's what they're paid to do.
shurlock Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Missed a similar effort up at Villa IIRC. Either way, would still be in my first XI.
shurlock Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Missed a similar effort up at Villa IIRC. Either way, would still be in my first XI.
S-Clarke Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 He had a sloppy game in some aspects, but I do like Davis. For me he's one of the first names on the team sheet, but for some reason he's always the player people seem to pass up on just to get Gaston shoe-horned in there! He's a leader and an organiser. He will be key for how we do this year.
S-Clarke Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 He had a sloppy game in some aspects, but I do like Davis. For me he's one of the first names on the team sheet, but for some reason he's always the player people seem to pass up on just to get Gaston shoe-horned in there! He's a leader and an organiser. He will be key for how we do this year.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Good player although not sure how it will all play out Ramirez is back fit, especially at home.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Good player although not sure how it will all play out Ramirez is back fit, especially at home.
Verbal Kint Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Proved himself last season to be a great player. Not sure how/if we can accommodate both Ward-Prowse and Davis at home against the lesser sides though, and Ward-prowse was excellent yesterday
Verbal Kint Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Proved himself last season to be a great player. Not sure how/if we can accommodate both Ward-Prowse and Davis at home against the lesser sides though, and Ward-prowse was excellent yesterday
S-Clarke Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Good player although not sure how it will all play out Ramirez is back fit, especially at home. Is this the case of a player becoming better when he's injured/not playing? Don't get me wrong, I think Gaston is a talent, but what on earth has he ever done at Southampton to be suggested as a starter ahead of Davis?
S-Clarke Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Good player although not sure how it will all play out Ramirez is back fit, especially at home. Is this the case of a player becoming better when he's injured/not playing? Don't get me wrong, I think Gaston is a talent, but what on earth has he ever done at Southampton to be suggested as a starter ahead of Davis?
Wade Garrett Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 I was more annoyed with him for not putting a challenge in on Sterling for their winner.
Wade Garrett Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 I was more annoyed with him for not putting a challenge in on Sterling for their winner.
southamptonfc Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Why did WP pass it when he was closer to goal with (I think) an easyish finish to the top left corner??
southamptonfc Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Why did WP pass it when he was closer to goal with (I think) an easyish finish to the top left corner??
Appy Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 None of our central midfielders can really finish, been the case for years.
Appy Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 None of our central midfielders can really finish, been the case for years.
KingdomCome Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 One poor shot doesn't make a bad player. You would hope for better, but he had more than one touch of the ball yesterday.
KingdomCome Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 One poor shot doesn't make a bad player. You would hope for better, but he had more than one touch of the ball yesterday.
S-Clarke Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Why did WP pass it when he was closer to goal with (I think) an easyish finish to the top left corner?? He didn't have the best angle to be honest, he was being closed down very quickly. Davis was in the much better position and he should have made more of it. JWP made the right decision.
S-Clarke Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Why did WP pass it when he was closer to goal with (I think) an easyish finish to the top left corner?? He didn't have the best angle to be honest, he was being closed down very quickly. Davis was in the much better position and he should have made more of it. JWP made the right decision.
trousers Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Why did WP pass it when he was closer to goal with (I think) an easyish finish to the top left corner?? I thought the same at time. A lack of confidence I guess.
trousers Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Why did WP pass it when he was closer to goal with (I think) an easyish finish to the top left corner?? I thought the same at time. A lack of confidence I guess.
OldNick Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 I was more annoyed with him for not putting a challenge in on Sterling for their winner.exactly, that was his worst offence
OldNick Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 I was more annoyed with him for not putting a challenge in on Sterling for their winner.exactly, that was his worst offence
Hatch Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Morgan wellied it and his was saved. Maybe he should have tried to place it ie. I agree with OP
Hatch Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Morgan wellied it and his was saved. Maybe he should have tried to place it ie. I agree with OP
OldNick Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Morgan wellied it and his was saved. Maybe he should have tried to place it ie. I agree with OPso did Clynne, i dont know what Long was doing with his header though
OldNick Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Morgan wellied it and his was saved. Maybe he should have tried to place it ie. I agree with OPso did Clynne, i dont know what Long was doing with his header though
melmacian_saint Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 exactly, that was his worst offence I think it was worse that Schneiderlin decided to stay back watching even though he could've easily gone for the ball and headed it clear much more easily than Davis who would've had to flick it backwards whilst being challenged.
melmacian_saint Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 exactly, that was his worst offence I think it was worse that Schneiderlin decided to stay back watching even though he could've easily gone for the ball and headed it clear much more easily than Davis who would've had to flick it backwards whilst being challenged.
OldNick Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 I think it was worse that Schneiderlin decided to stay back watching even though he could've easily gone for the ball and headed it clear much more easily than Davis who would've had to flick it backwards whilst being challenged.ok, there seems to be quite a few who were at fault, but Davis was closest and on his heels.
OldNick Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 I think it was worse that Schneiderlin decided to stay back watching even though he could've easily gone for the ball and headed it clear much more easily than Davis who would've had to flick it backwards whilst being challenged.ok, there seems to be quite a few who were at fault, but Davis was closest and on his heels.
Dellman Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Good player although not sure how it will all play out Ramirez is back fit, especially at home. I can't imagine Gaston, even if he is ever fit, getting through Davis' workrate
Dellman Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Good player although not sure how it will all play out Ramirez is back fit, especially at home. I can't imagine Gaston, even if he is ever fit, getting through Davis' workrate
verlaine1979 Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 He didn't have the best angle to be honest, he was being closed down very quickly. Davis was in the much better position and he should have made more of it. JWP made the right decision. Based on last season, Davis got 2 goals and 7 assists in about 2500 minutes, while Gaston got 1 goals and 3 assists in about 600 minutes. Ramirez is never going to do the water carrying of Davis, but if we have Wanyama and Schneiderlin behind him, why would he need to?
verlaine1979 Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 He didn't have the best angle to be honest, he was being closed down very quickly. Davis was in the much better position and he should have made more of it. JWP made the right decision. Based on last season, Davis got 2 goals and 7 assists in about 2500 minutes, while Gaston got 1 goals and 3 assists in about 600 minutes. Ramirez is never going to do the water carrying of Davis, but if we have Wanyama and Schneiderlin behind him, why would he need to?
Whitey Grandad Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Shane long should of scored too 'Ought to have scored' perhaps. He had Glen Johnson's big head in his face though.
Whitey Grandad Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Shane long should of scored too 'Ought to have scored' perhaps. He had Glen Johnson's big head in his face though.
Convict Colony Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 could of been worse https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/FAC49555EF1112715375910494208_297bcd6de92.2.1.1227 5920986206611095.mp4?versionId=3iBvnpXRMjaRf6m3Yls _TCWWXZBTHWGK
St Chalet Posted 18 August, 2014 Posted 18 August, 2014 Clattenburg would have blown up for the push on Johnson if Long had scored IMHO.
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