Leicestersaint Posted 20 August, 2014 Posted 20 August, 2014 I'd prefer Biabany out of the wingers we've been linked to, he'd be much cheaper too (both fee and wages)... I agree with this. Townsend might come good for but he seems quite erratic - and we have enough of those in the past.
derry Posted 20 August, 2014 Posted 20 August, 2014 Just a question. Rumours of chronic internet gambling and rehab attempts. Can anyone clarify this? If true, a whole new ball game.
Bewildered Posted 20 August, 2014 Posted 20 August, 2014 Just a question. Rumours of chronic internet gambling and rehab attempts. Can anyone clarify this? If true, a whole new ball game. Her served a four month ban (three of those months were suspended) for gambling offences. Here is an article where he discusses it. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2337220/Andros-Townsend-reveals-details-gambling-shame.html
DrunkenSaint Posted 20 August, 2014 Posted 20 August, 2014 I'd prefer Biabany out of the wingers we've been linked to, he'd be much cheaper too (both fee and wages)... Agree, also any money going to spurs will also give them a good enough kitty to get Morgan. I think Townsend had a cracking month last season, playing for England and a couple of good games for Spurs but thats all really, nothing special, Biabany would be a better choice.
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 20 August, 2014 Posted 20 August, 2014 Genuine question - why is Callum Mcmanaman not linked with us or anyone? Remember him being good
S-Clarke Posted 20 August, 2014 Posted 20 August, 2014 Genuine question - why is Callum Mcmanaman not linked with us or anyone? Remember him being good He turned a bit ****, all being told. An example of a player coming in as an unknown, causing havoc with his 1 dimensional hit and run game. A few months on defenders know how to stop him, and that's that. He has also been injured a lot and has struggled to get back from that, but the asking price of £15-16m 18 months ago seems a bit comical now to say the least.
Dangermouth Posted 20 August, 2014 Posted 20 August, 2014 Why do people like headless chicken wingers (Zaha, Townsend, that Norwich one) so much? It's about decision-making and intelligence, not running into dead alleys like Jack Wilshire. Think how well JWP played at the world cup under 20s (?) recently and compare his style to that of most of the others, including the headless ... .
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 20 August, 2014 Posted 20 August, 2014 I can see a last minute deal being struck with Townsend coming to us and Morgan going the other way. If Morgan is going to Spurs (and I think he will) then there's other players I'd rather take from Spurs before Townsend.
UpweySaint Posted 20 August, 2014 Posted 20 August, 2014 He turned a bit ****, all being told. An example of a player coming in as an unknown, causing havoc with his 1 dimensional hit and run game. A few months on defenders know how to stop him, and that's that. He has also been injured a lot and has struggled to get back from that, but the asking price of £15-16m 18 months ago seems a bit comical now to say the least. Have seen him play over the back end of last season and asked myself the same question. Not sure what price Wigan have on him but surprised no premiership side has made a bid or even been credited with an interest lately. Agree he got found out a touch but he seems to have added more to his game and can score the odd belter. Imagine it is a case of a season without injury and a purple patch of form before the premiership comes calling once more.
doddisalegend Posted 20 August, 2014 Posted 20 August, 2014 Why do people like headless chicken wingers (Zaha, Townsend, that Norwich one) so much? It's about decision-making and intelligence, not running into dead alleys like Jack Wilshire. Think how well JWP played at the world cup under 20s (?) recently and compare his style to that of most of the others, including the headless ... . Actually it's about having a bit of both so you can have more than one game plan. No one is suggesting we have a team of nothing pacey wide players any more than a team of nothing but intelligent gifted ball players...A good team needs a bit of everything
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 20 August, 2014 Posted 20 August, 2014 Why do people like headless chicken wingers (Zaha, Townsend, that Norwich one) so much? It's about decision-making and intelligence, not running into dead alleys like Jack Wilshire. Think how well JWP played at the world cup under 20s (?) recently and compare his style to that of most of the others, including the headless ... . Walcott was considered to have poor decision making for a while, then he improved and is a quality player
SNSUN Posted 20 August, 2014 Posted 20 August, 2014 Walcott was considered to have poor decision making for a while, then he improved and is a quality player This. Townsend is still young and learning the game. He'll get better. You can't teach someone to run faster (unless it's teaching them a better running technique, but that won't make them Usain Bolt suddenly) but you can teach them decision making and end product. It's why people wanted Redmond, raw but can be moulded. I believe the same was said about Kenwyne Jones when we signed him.
SNSUN Posted 20 August, 2014 Posted 20 August, 2014 is he hungry SSN? He must be. He's all skin and bone.
dubai_phil Posted 20 August, 2014 Posted 20 August, 2014 Why the fark are so many posters on here defending the possible purchase of a Pochetraitoro cast off? Townsend? Really? Would rather give Rowe & Sinclair a chance.
Saint Charlie Posted 20 August, 2014 Posted 20 August, 2014 Why the fark are so many posters on here defending the possible purchase of a Pochetraitoro cast off? Townsend? Really? Would rather give Rowe & Sinclair a chance. They are getting a chance in the U21s. If they were good enough they would have had a chance at Senior level. Townsend miles better than either of them FFS.
Batman Posted 21 August, 2014 Posted 21 August, 2014 as wingers go, Downing was the most accurate crosser of the ball in the league last season
Chez Posted 21 August, 2014 Posted 21 August, 2014 as wingers go, Downing was the most accurate crosser of the ball in the league last season best player on the park against Spurs.
Leicestersaint Posted 21 August, 2014 Posted 21 August, 2014 I have been unimpressed with Townsend when I have seen him - he is a cast off from Spurs - why do we want him??
doddisalegend Posted 21 August, 2014 Posted 21 August, 2014 as wingers go, Downing was the most accurate crosser of the ball in the league last season how many crosses though if only managed one cross last season and got it spot on he'd have a 100% accuracy record. Wasn't he injuried a lot last season? or I'm I imagining that?
ratio_decidendi Posted 21 August, 2014 Posted 21 August, 2014 I have been unimpressed with Townsend when I have seen him - he is a cast off from Spurs - why do we want him?? So long as he performed and did the job required of him, I couldn't care less if a player was a cast off from Eastleigh FC.
Batman Posted 21 August, 2014 Posted 21 August, 2014 (edited) how many crosses though if only managed one cross last season and got it spot on he'd have a 100% accuracy record. Wasn't he injuried a lot last season? or I'm I imagining that? its west ham, they like to 'get it in the mixer' 212 crosses last season averages over 6.5 crosses per game and was the most accurate in the league townsend got 74 crosses last season averaging just under 3 per game Edited 21 August, 2014 by Batman
Giordano Posted 21 August, 2014 Posted 21 August, 2014 Why do people like headless chicken wingers (Zaha, Townsend, that Norwich one) so much? It's about decision-making and intelligence, not running into dead alleys like Jack Wilshire. Think how well JWP played at the world cup under 20s (?) recently and compare his style to that of most of the others, including the headless ... . Comparing JWP to Andros Townsend is not very fair. JWP is a fantastic player with still plenty upward potential ( i hope as england captain one day senior squad- he is my new favorite player now SRL is no more) but his job is totally different to AT. For Under 21's JWP played as DM/quarterback. His job was to circulate the ball, retain possession, be an option for defenders and attackers to pass to, track back and set piece delivery including that great goal he scored. For RK hes played more advanced but to be honest i don't think its his best position as he lacks that bit of pace and height and strength for all his other exfellent attributes most notably football intelligence, we are just lucky that in big Vic and MS we have super players. Against Liverpool RK essentially just picked his "best" eleven players and said - GO! Andros Townsends' job is to attack, get to bye line and cross, cause goal threat, shoot, and generally cause mayhem by running at players with the ball. Now it seems to be that the "Southampton way" for an AM is more about the former than the latter. But RK seems to want to have a bit more tactical flexibility than MOPO ever did. So having someone like Townsend - who might in some respects otherwise be considered as an entirely unsuitable player for our kind of football team - in the squad is just the additional surprise element X that might be useful to an astute and experienced manager like RK. He knows about the EPl. He will know who he can attack easy and who he needs to be careful about. A foreign winger wont know that if hes up against a man utd cb he just needs push it past and run fast for example... I think townsend would be a super buy.
richard Posted 21 August, 2014 Posted 21 August, 2014 its west ham, they like to 'get it in the mixer' 212 crosses last season averages over 6.5 crosses per game and was the most accurate in the league townsend got 74 crosses last season averaging just under 3 per game Where have you got those stats? The only ones I can find put JWP above Downing, and others https://www.bsports.com/extratime/leaderboard-crossing-accuracy-in-the-premier-league#.U_YGBtZSFDY
DT Posted 21 August, 2014 Posted 21 August, 2014 Andros Townsend is playing for the despicable north London yobbos tonight in their tedious little European encounter. This means he is definitely not coming to us. Or definitely coming to us.
beavis17 Posted 21 August, 2014 Posted 21 August, 2014 (edited) Interesting... Edited 21 August, 2014 by beavis17
Killers Knee Posted 21 August, 2014 Posted 21 August, 2014 The best headless chicken. scored a good goal against Everton IIRC, think Rooney got 2 against us that day.
Saint Rees Posted 21 August, 2014 Posted 21 August, 2014 Interesting... Reminds me of when Koeman's son was favouriting and retweeting things about RK being linked to the saints job, not being funny, this could have legs!
Window Cleaner Posted 21 August, 2014 Posted 21 August, 2014 Looking good for spurs again at the mo despite them being 1-0 down you mean.
john_ro Posted 22 August, 2014 Posted 22 August, 2014 They were lucky against West Ham, they were lucky last night with Lloris (which I highly rate) and some glimpses from Lamela coming on as a sub... Villas Boas and Sherwood all over again, imo...
SaintRichmond Posted 22 August, 2014 Posted 22 August, 2014 I have been unimpressed with Townsend when I have seen him - he is a cast off from Spurs - why do we want him??[/QUOTE] Because he is Levy's "make weight" for a Schneiderlin deal. Levy doesn't get rid of good players Andros Townsend, the clue is in the name IMHO
Wes Tender Posted 22 August, 2014 Posted 22 August, 2014 I have been unimpressed with Townsend when I have seen him - he is a cast off from Spurs - why do we want him??[/QUOTE] Because he is Levy's "make weight" for a Schneiderlin deal. Levy doesn't get rid of good players Andros Townsend, the clue is in the name IMHO Koeman has come out publically and stated categorically that Townsend will NOT be a make-weight in any deal for Schneiderlin. He has said that if that is suggested by Spurs, then we would pull out of our interest in Townsend. That's good enough for me, because if the club reneged on that promise, it is our manager who will be hugely embarassed.
CB Fry Posted 22 August, 2014 Posted 22 August, 2014 I have been unimpressed with Townsend when I have seen him - he is a cast off from Spurs - why do we want him??[/QUOTE] Because he is Levy's "make weight" for a Schneiderlin deal. Levy doesn't get rid of good players Andros Townsend, the clue is in the name IMHO Not Bale, Berbatov, Modric, Carrick and so on. Good old Daniel Levy.
SaintRichmond Posted 22 August, 2014 Posted 22 August, 2014 Not Bale, Berbatov, Modric, Carrick and so on. Good old Daniel Levy. Well done CB I should have elaborated. I was implying that Levy doesn't get rid of good players TO US
CB Fry Posted 22 August, 2014 Posted 22 August, 2014 Well done CB I should have elaborated. I was implying that Levy doesn't get rid of good players TO US What a pointless thing to say, then. Well done.
Saint_Ash Posted 22 August, 2014 Posted 22 August, 2014 Well done CB I should have elaborated. I was implying that Levy doesn't get rid of good players TO US Remind me again which good spurs players we tried to sign that levy didn't allow?
SaintRichmond Posted 22 August, 2014 Posted 22 August, 2014 Remind me again which good spurs players we tried to sign that levy didn't allow? What the hell are you on about CB I'm saying that Levy is using Townsend as bait to get a deal for Schneiderlin. I'm also saying that Levy would not offer us a "good" player I'm not saying that we are trying to sign ANY Spurs players FFS
Jez Posted 22 August, 2014 Posted 22 August, 2014 What the hell are you on about, CB? If you don't know, what chance do the rest of us stand?
Saint_Ash Posted 22 August, 2014 Posted 22 August, 2014 What the hell are you on about, CB? I have no idea anymore, I don't even know who I am!
Saint_clark Posted 22 August, 2014 Posted 22 August, 2014 What the hell are you on about CB I'm saying that Levy is using Townsend as bait to get a deal for Schneiderlin. I'm also saying that Levy would not offer us a "good" player I'm not saying that we are trying to sign ANY Spurs players FFS What is happening. I might change my avatar to CBs just to f*ck with Richmond.
The9 Posted 22 August, 2014 Posted 22 August, 2014 Koeman has come out publically and stated categorically that Townsend will NOT be a make-weight in any deal for Schneiderlin. He has said that if that is suggested by Spurs, then we would pull out of our interest in Townsend. That's good enough for me, because if the club reneged on that promise, it is our manager who will be hugely embarassed. Wait, what? He's categorically stated that we ARE interested in Townsend then? When?
Wes Tender Posted 22 August, 2014 Posted 22 August, 2014 Wait, what? He's categorically stated that we ARE interested in Townsend then? When? I don't know, but there's an entire thread on it on here somewhere apparently.
Cookie Crumble Posted 23 August, 2014 Posted 23 August, 2014 Not going to happen this window but think it would be a great signing if we did
Window Cleaner Posted 23 August, 2014 Posted 23 August, 2014 Not going to happen this window but think it would be a great signing if we did It can happen but fot that Krusty will have to back down and look stupid, he's not going to do that so it won't happen.
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 24 August, 2014 Posted 24 August, 2014 Townsend is not in squad today, fully fit apparently. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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