CalneSaint Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 On Football Focus... His reasoning for this prediction is the number of new players that we have to integrate and he used the Spuds as an example of a team that also integrated a number of new players last season. I see a flaw in this argument....I'm fairly certain that they finished higher than us....... I know it's nothing to be concerned about, but it does make you think what these pundits are thinking..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 I think we will surprise a lot of pundits and armchair fans by doing quite well. 9th or 10th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Would have thought BBC would have learnt their lesson from the World Cup, Phil Neville is a boring wooden f^cker devoid of any personality and best forgotten about. Why they wheel out these tw^ts to provide an 'expert' opinion is staggering. Oh, forgot he played for Man U, so the public crave to hear him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Lawro didn't, so that's ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Not in the slightest bit interested in Gary Neville's brothers prediction Now if Gary Neville had said it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Not in the slightest bit interested in Gary Neville's brothers prediction Now if Gary Neville had said it This. The lesser Neville is a waste of pundit space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 (edited) Siri can't even tell me where my local chippie is -never mind predict the football. Edited 16 August, 2014 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Lol at Neville. How can you compare Spurs example with Saints?! Did they not finish ABOVE Saints last season with all their badly integrated buys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 It's an odd argument. Most agree lots of new players isn't the best way and will limit you, but it doesn't mean complete collapse. Spurs were worse than before, some struggled, but overall they did OK. I expect the same from Saints, not as good as last year, some signings better than others, and mid-table. Relegation is a strong prediction for what is still a very good squad. Good post. And even Paul Merson has us at 11th this season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Would have thought BBC would have learnt their lesson from the World Cup, Phil Neville is a boring wooden f^cker devoid of any personality and best forgotten about. Why they wheel out these tw^ts to provide an 'expert' opinion is staggering. Oh, forgot he played for Man U, so the public crave to hear him. Was going to say the same, what did he say about Rooney in the world cup?? Clueless numpty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Phil Neville is a clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 The season Southampton last got relegated was also the season Southampton was predicted to get relegated, coincidence I think not.. Although he's the worst commentator of all time Neville's theory is on the money. Yes spurs finished ahead of us but they spend heavy and flopped. Southampton have spend heavy but on arse like long and pellè. It's going to be a bumpy ride f'sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans gruber Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Really? Watching the manure v Swansea game I think it's entirely possible saints could finish ahead of manure. I guess they will go down with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Really? Watching the manure v Swansea game I think it's entirely possible saints could finish ahead of manure. I guess they will go down with us we wont finish close to united I will be amazed if they dont spend another £60m+ on realy quality players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 we wont finish close to united I will be amazed if they dont spend another £60m+ on realy quality players They've been saying that for 2 months. And yet they still have Jones and Smalling at the back. Pathetic really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 2 Guardian journalists predicted relegation for us, one being United lackey Jamie Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 It's not unreasonable to predict that after all of the changes we've experienced it might mean that we end up in a lower league position than last year, but relegation is a bit too wild for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollysaints1 Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 The difference between 8th and relegation is not 4 first team players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 The difference between 8th and relegation is not 4 first team players. take away 30 goals, and the best CB and i can see why. There does seem to be a lot of complacency. The team has been ripped apart and we have a team of new faces with a untested PL manager. i can see why an outsider would be doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bos Vegas Saint Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Shut up phil neville you're boring ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Was going to say the same, what did he say about Rooney in the world cup?? Clueless numpty I don't know but he did nearly cause me to come off the road during the World Cup when he talked about the 'imaginary spray' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 (edited) The difference between 8th and relegation is not 4 first team players. 5 of your best players plus another out injured is going to have an effect. surprised saints fans are so cool about it. I am concerned to say the least. thank god morgan has not gone. Edited 16 August, 2014 by Chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Can I ask whether those who think that we are going to get relegated (or nearly so) have season tickets or actually go to any games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 I think we'll be fairly solid defensively overall (although I fear we could ship a few tomorrow) but our season rests on Tadic, Pelle and Long. We probably need to score 40 goals to be ok and we can rely on Jay to be pushing double figures probably, as well as 10 or so spread out through the rest of the team. If Long, Pelle and Tedic can get 20 between them then we'll be absolutely fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollysaints1 Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 5 of your best players plus another out injured is going to have an effect. surprised saints fans are so cool about it. I am concerned to say the least. thank god morgan has not gone. I'd say we lost 3 of our best players. I rate Schneiderlin, Clyne and Steven Davis higher than Chambers and Lovren. However, we've replaced those players with almost equal quality in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 I find the bedwetting so depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 I find the bedwetting so depressing. depression is a serious issue at the mo sad that you use it to describe a few pointless words on the message board that will have zero bearing on how our season pans out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 I have no issues with pundits expecting us to be poor. It makes it so much more satisfying when we actually do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 It's a pretty daft comment for neville to make, given that he has no more idea than the rest of us how the side will be set up, or much more idea about the abilities of the players we've signed. We could just as easily be awful or terrific, guess we'll have a better clue this time tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 I find the bedwetting so depressing. Well don't do it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Can I ask whether those who think that we are going to get relegated (or nearly so) have season tickets or actually go to any games? Season ticket holder since 84, not that it matters. Having a pessamistic view is my perogative. Relegation is possible. We have been relegated before you know and we have no devine right to win any games. I hope the new players shine straight away. they will need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 I'd say we lost 3 of our best players. I rate Schneiderlin, Clyne and Steven Davis higher than Chambers and Lovren. However, we've replaced those players with almost equal quality in my opinion. This is to be seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPints Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Phil Neville = Arsehole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 depression is a serious issue at the mo sad that you use it to describe a few pointless words on the message board that will have zero bearing on how our season pans out STFU you little tit. Saying something is depressing and depression are not the same thing. I don't need any lessons from you thank you especially as one my good friends/cousin had depression and shot himself a couple of months back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 STFU you little tit. Saying something is depressing and depression are not the same thing. I don't need any lessons from you thank you especially as one my good friends/cousin had depression and shot himself a couple of months back. Really not the best thing to crowbar into a conversation on a message board... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/premier-league-predictions-mirror-football-4056741 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/11036168/Premier-League-predictions-for-the-new-football-season.html http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/aug/16/guardian-football-predictions-premier-league-manchester-city-manchester-united?CMP=twt_gu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Don't agree with Neville. Don't agree with those who think we'll be in top 10 either though. Hoping all our new signings work out and gel quickly but lot less positive than i was looking at team at start of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Couldn't give a flying f**k what these people think - it's all opinions anyway, misguided or whatever. It's fairly obvious that there are 4 or 5 very poor teams in the league and around 8 (including us) that could finish anywhere from 8th to 15th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 STFU you little tit. Saying something is depressing and depression are not the same thing. I don't need any lessons from you thank you especially as one my good friends/cousin had depression and shot himself a couple of months back. calm down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 The season Southampton last got relegated was also the season Southampton was predicted to get relegated, coincidence I think not.. Although he's the worst commentator of all time Neville's theory is on the money. Yes spurs finished ahead of us but they spend heavy and flopped. Southampton have spend heavy but on arse like long and pellè. It's going to be a bumpy ride f'sure. Southampton were predicted to be relegated every other season before it actually happened. So much for your coincidence. If the thicker of the two Neville brothers made that prediction the last time, you might have a point. Did he? Neville's theory is not on the money at all. It is ridiculous making comparisons between us and Spurs. Why is Phil Neville the worst commentator? Is it because of his boring delivery, or is it because he comes out with unsubstantiated theories like this one that you're so fond of? A bit premature to write off Long and Pelle before they've even kicked a ball for us in a PL match, isn't it. They might forge an understanding together that results in a very fruitful partnership that returns a large number of goals. One really has to question whether people like you are really Saints fans if you write off our players before the season even starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Phil should concentrate on his honing his exhilarating commentating skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Phil Neville's an idiot, who cares what he thinks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 5 of your best players plus another out injured is going to have an effect. surprised saints fans are so cool about it. I am concerned to say the least. thank god morgan has not gone. Had we not replaced most of them, then I would have agreed with the thrust of your argument. I agree that it is important that we have kept Schneiderlin as he would be the player amongst those who have left that I would have missed the most. However, of the others, I think that we have done pretty well to replace them. There was debate before the end of last season as to whether Clyne was better than Chambers. It is debateable now as to whether Pelle or Long could be better than Lambert, Tadic better than Lallana, Betrand better than Shaw, Gardos better than Lovren. And then with the signings of Long and Taider, we have extra players. Admittedly these players are an unknown quantity, but then again, so are the players who left an unknown quantity to a certain extent had they stayed. There are no guarantees that they would perform to the same level as they did last year, or remain injury free. Lallana is already injured before the season has started for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Majestic Channon Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Phil Neville's an idiot, who cares what he thinks? A few old Fannies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 How refreshing it is to see so many of you making a special effort to avoid this forum's oh-so-familiar 'shoot the messenger' reaction to any negative press ... It seems to me that at this time no bugger knows who will win this league, and who will be relegated from it this season. So what the BBC contractually pressurise Phil Neville into saying before a ball has even been kicked amounts to nothing very much in the grand scheme to things. For what its worth, what he said strikes me as being not entirely unreasonable I'm sorry to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Phil should concentrate on his honing his exhilarating commentating skills. ..as witnessed recently by Billy "The Fish" Thompson. Neville gave a team talk which put Billy into a coma just before the England game, thats why we went out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Phil Neville looks like he just walked in from 1997. Needs to sort the highlighted french crop out pronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 All 20 Premier League teams reviewed and ranked - By Jonathan Liew 1/20 No 20. Southampton Skill level: 6/10 New signings: 6/10 Off-field intrigue: 10/10 Manager: 5/10 Kit: 9/10 Total: 36/50 (of which Liverpool take half). Final score: 18/50. Southampton actually earned enough points to finish fifth in our entirely subjective league table, but half of those points have since moved to Liverpool, leaving Southampton an unfortunate rock bottom. The exodus was always going to happen, of course, but not all at once; not this violently. It has been a stunning spectacle, not least because of the potential knock-on effects on the players who are left behind. Personally, I’ve got a sneaking suspicion they’ll finish in the top half again, although that depends on their new signings settling quickly. And their kit, which sees the return of red and white stripes for the first time since 2011 – is lovely. False hope, perhaps, but then at this most turbulent of clubs, false hope will always be the last thing out of the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Eight best Premier League summer signings - by Alan Smith 5/8 Dusan Tadic (Southampton) FC Twente's playmaker was arguably the top performer in Holland last season, scoring 16 goals and contributing 14 assists. As Ronald Koeman's first signing, the clever Serb is capable of providing the guile previously offered by Adam Lallana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Phil who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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