LostBoys Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 My only worry about all of this is that Davies and Gazzaniga are not good enough as the number 2. Anyone who saw the Man City game at the Etihad will be petrified with the thought of no Boruc and a Forster injury after Gazzaniga's performance. I did and it was right in front of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 We've ****ed off the best keeper we've had since Niemi. Wonderful. Weirdo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 Disgraceful that he's not in the squad today. Whether he's refused to play or Koeman's decided he's not in the right mindset, it's totally unprofessional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 Disgraceful that he's not in the squad today. Whether he's refused to play or Koeman's decided he's not in the right mindset, it's totally unprofessional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rees Posted 18 August, 2014 Share Posted 18 August, 2014 Did Koeman say anywhere why Boruc wasn't in the squad yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rees Posted 18 August, 2014 Share Posted 18 August, 2014 Did Koeman say anywhere why Boruc wasn't in the squad yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 @DailySaintsNews: Artur Boruc has been demoted to third-choice stopper behind new signing Fraser Forster and Kelvin Davis. (Source: ESPN) #saintsfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 @DailySaintsNews: Artur Boruc has been demoted to third-choice stopper behind new signing Fraser Forster and Kelvin Davis. (Source: ESPN) #saintsfc Not surprised after the way he kicked off. Wasn't even in the training videos last week. Yet Kelv, Fraser were and Cody went to LFC on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 @DailySaintsNews: Artur Boruc has been demoted to third-choice stopper behind new signing Fraser Forster and Kelvin Davis. (Source: ESPN) #saintsfc (Source: Completely made-up bol locks) Not surprised after the way he kicked off. Wasn't even in the training videos last week. Yet Kelv, Fraser were and Cody went to LFC on Sunday. So Boruc must be 4th choice then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 4th choice? FF, KD, PG, CC, AB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 If FF gets injured I bet Boruc will be playing unless he lets himself go again. I can't see us starting KD or PG for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 The bloke needs to grow a pair and act like a professional. If he wants the no 1 spot he needs to fight for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 4th choice? FF, KD, PG, CC, AB We could go on with this, we have 7 keepers with squad numbers. Anyone heard anything reliable about why Boruc wasn't with the squad yet? Injury? Girlie strop? Forster and Davis were named and Cropper was warming up with them at Anfield. Looking forward to seeing who gets the nod for the League Cup match... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 Sounds like Koeman is finally getting irritated with some of the more precious players in the squad. If true, then Boruc has just been given a slap straight out of the Jose school of management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 The bloke needs to grow a pair and act like a professional. If he wants the no 1 spot he needs to fight for it. all very well provided the combat is not already so weighted that it becomes unwinnable except in desperate circumstances. I think as it stands FF would have to be absolutely rank for a few games in a row before Artur is reconsidered as starter and that is not really desirable. It's a fight he probably can't win so he might as well pack it in before he loses out in a big way. Mind you I really don't want to see either KD or PG in our goal again so it's not easy to resolve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 Would like to see Cropper given a look in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 Anyone heard anything reliable about why Boruc wasn't with the squad yet? Injury? Girlie strop? seemed to disappear bout the same time as irene. hope he's still alive & we're talking basement rather than patio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpbury Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 Just seen that AB pic on my Facebook from someone who normally posts those ******** personal inspiration messages. No relation to Saints at all. It has become a ******** inspiration meme, ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 If things are as they appear to be, then this is a real shame, and appears to be have been handled badly. But I talk about 'appears' and 'seems' as I don't know the facts. I was perfectly happy with Boruc and felt we needed a decent #2 goalkeeper. The lad at Reading was mentioned. Someone, Reed or Koeman, has chosen to go for a new #1 GK and I wonder if they talked it over with Boruc first. GK is not like other positions, where you need a squad to compete for a number of positions. It's one for one. In an ideal world, Boruc wouldn't feel sleighted and would take the Joe Hart stance of being prepared to compete for his place. But I do feel a little sorry for Boruc, although I don't support any strike or refusal to travel stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 What did Jamie Carragher say about Cech on Monday Night Football - he would think less of any keeper who was happy with their lot on the bench. Rather, anyone with an ounce of talent and ambition would be pushing hard for a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelseas-petr-cech-trains-on-day-off-in-bid-to-win-back-no1-spot-from-thibaut-courtois-9679976.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 A bit vague. Putting it into context with the odd appearance of Irene and her/his attitude.... He's off. A massive pity, and a further sign of just how spoilt footballers are. A place in a team is not a divine right. One of the quotes either attributed to Pochettino or Cortese last year had it right. Something along the lines of 'You are employed to train with the squad, the manager is employed to pick the team.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 Wonder what he is saying will do to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 I really hope he does and knuckles down. Would love him to stay. But guess it might mean something else - suspect it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 Sucking it up with a picture of him smoking a fag. Think he is just displaying his professionalism eh irene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 Sucking it up with a picture of him smoking a fag. Think he is just displaying his professionalism eh irene? Your about maybe 12 plus years late on fact he smokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 Your about maybe 12 plus years late on fact he smokes And were you too early to declare that artur would be professional? Or was he injured/out of puff at the weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 And were you too early to declare that artur would be professional? Or was he injured/out of puff at the weekend? guess if you think he is "unprofessional" then finally your managment team and him would have something in common Maybe someone needs to tell Hart he better watch his Engalnd spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 Ah... um I think this may put his position across... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 There you go boys. The man himself has spoken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 guess if you think he is "unprofessional" then finally your managment team and him would have something in common Maybe someone needs to tell Hart he better watch his Engalnd spot It's not our management team, it's his (yours?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svetigpung Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 If things are as they appear to be, then this is a real shame, and appears to be have been handled badly. But I talk about 'appears' and 'seems' as I don't know the facts. I was perfectly happy with Boruc and felt we needed a decent #2 goalkeeper. The lad at Reading was mentioned. Someone, Reed or Koeman, has chosen to go for a new #1 GK and I wonder if they talked it over with Boruc first. GK is not like other positions, where you need a squad to compete for a number of positions. It's one for one. In an ideal world, Boruc wouldn't feel sleighted and would take the Joe Hart stance of being prepared to compete for his place. But I do feel a little sorry for Boruc, although I don't support any strike or refusal to travel stance. Spot on WinnieSaint. My feelings exactly. AB has been dealt a pretty rough deal. Other departments need strengthening first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollysaints1 Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 There you go boys. The man himself has spoken Seriously, what is your purpose? Do you just browse all day waiting for activity on threads regarding Boruc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 He clearly thinks he cant compete with FF. His confidence is clearly low, i feel sorry for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 He clearly thinks he cant compete with FF. His confidence is clearly low, i feel sorry for him. Think you'll find that he has no competition. As in he can not compete because Forster will always be first choice unless he physically can not go onto pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 There you go boys. The man himself has spoken As a contracted professional he should be making it his purpose to challenge the coaches and force their hand. That's not what he wants to hear though is it. Just what do you want Irene? You've said you wanted to put your perspective across, but why? What's the need behind the act? Is Artur that insecure that he was looking for kind words, validation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 Ah... um I think this may put his position across... That was a bit naughty Irene, been talking to Morgan and Dejan have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 As a contracted professional he should be making it his purpose to challenge the coaches and force their hand. That's not what he wants to hear though is it. Just what do you want Irene? You've said you wanted to put your perspective across, but why? What's the need behind the act? Is Artur that insecure that he was looking for kind words, validation? Problem here is your all swallowing what the manager said in public re "competition" Anyone job wise been in situation you and your boss don't get on or see eye to eye? And no matter what you do, how hard you work their view does not change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 There you go boys. The man himself has spoken But WHY doesn't he have a chance to compete? Who has he rubbed up the wrong way? I'm a big fan of Artur's, I wanted us to sign him when he was a free agent (think that post has long gone from here, I tried to search for it the other day), but ... if he really feels aggrieved that he can't compete and has been "demoted" without being able to show he's still number 1, my gut feeling is that he's p*ssed someone off? Tell me I'm wrong of course, but something must have happened/been said? Or is it genuinely a case of "face doesn't fit" with the new management? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 Think you'll find that he has no competition. As in he can not compete because Forster will always be first choice unless he physically can not go onto pitch You Irene come here in a guileful manner, and it isn't particularly attractive. He cannot compete? Boo ****ing hoo and how awful that the club is trying to improve under a new manager. Either tell us exactly what you mean by the "he has no competition" or stow the violin. Your histrionics are trite and boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 You Irene come here in a guileful manner, and it isn't particularly attractive. He cannot compete? Boo ****ing hoo and how awful that the club is trying to improve under a new manager. Either tell us exactly what you mean by that or stow the violin. Your histrionics are trite and boring. Oh sweet jezus. The club have every right to improve and bring in what they see as improvements. See post above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 But WHY doesn't he have a chance to compete? Who has he rubbed up the wrong way? I'm a big fan of Artur's, I wanted us to sign him when he was a free agent (think that post has long gone from here, I tried to search for it the other day), but ... if he really feels aggrieved that he can't compete and has been "demoted" without being able to show he's still number 1, my gut feeling is that he's p*ssed someone off? Tell me I'm wrong of course, but something must have happened/been said? Or is it genuinely a case of "face doesn't fit" with the new management? You said it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 Anyone job wise been in situation you and your boss don't get on or see eye to eye? And no matter what you do, how hard you work their view does not change? Omg if my boss brought someone in to do all my work and I didn't have to do any work, and I still got paid exactly the same... I would be so pumped! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 Omg if my boss brought someone in to do all my work and I didn't have to do any work, and I still got paid exactly the same... I would be so pumped! That sums you up then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 There you go boys. The man himself has spoken No. The 'man' has had an ambiguous whine on twitter. Do you think this is helping the manager to see that artur's attitude is a1 fine and dandy? Or is he just coming across as bitter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 Ah I see. He is just going to give up. Thought the Poles were made of sterner stuff. Bye bye then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 No. The 'man' has had an ambiguous whine on twitter. Do you think this is helping the manager to see that artur's attitude is a1 fine and dandy? Or is he just coming across as bitter? Yes i am sure you are correct. Social media is something players should be banned from. But i guess it also gets their side of things out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 You said it That's fine, thanks for clarifying! Most of us have certainly been there! Would like them to sort it out and he stays, but hey, not my call and football clubs & players are as fickle as fans sometimes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 Problem here is your all swallowing what the manager said in public re "competition" Anyone job wise been in situation you and your boss don't get on or see eye to eye? And no matter what you do, how hard you work their view does not change? That did not answer my question. Why are you doing this? Why persist in going on here in Artur's name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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