irene Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 Because we accepted very good offers for them, offers we deemed too good to turn down. You know of any big bids for him? Didn't think so Know of one discussion Don't see point of keeping one unhappy player stuck to a bench they do not want to be on. When he could go for not a lot as your so cash rich thanks to all these sales your spending 12 million on long! Oh that is right they want the guy good enough to be number 1 elsewhere on their bench because if forster gets injured the other two goalies you pay are so bad it is a joke
VectisSaint Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 even celtic fans, who love boruc have even said in the majority that forster is better Looks like a pretty even split to me. http://www.talkceltic.net/forum/showthread.php?t=144508&page=5 This poster seems to think that Artur shades it: "Boruc was on a different level compared to forster, Forster is overrated as ****, he has a lot of weaknesses in his game but is a great shot stopper so it makes him look good all the time. There was a point where I honestly though Boruc was in the top 10 keepers in the world while he was playing with us, Forster is no where near that." I think FF will become as good if not better than Boruc, but I really don't think he is right now and I think Koeman may regret not handling this better by easing FF in gradually rather than alienating Boruc from the get go.
Pedro Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 Most EPL clubs have 2 "no.1's" just too many games and long distance travelling for one goalie to play in every game.
irene Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 Looks like a pretty even split to me. http://www.talkceltic.net/forum/showthread.php?t=144508&page=5 This poster seems to think that Artur shades it: "Boruc was on a different level compared to forster, Forster is overrated as ****, he has a lot of weaknesses in his game but is a great shot stopper so it makes him look good all the time. There was a point where I honestly though Boruc was in the top 10 keepers in the world while he was playing with us, Forster is no where near that." I think FF will become as good if not better than Boruc, but I really don't think he is right now and I think Koeman may regret not handling this better by easing FF in gradually rather than alienating Boruc from the get go. This. I am not saying boruc has a devine right to be first choice. I am saying in my opinion whole situation has not been handled well at all
SaintRobbie Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 This. I am not saying boruc has a devine right to be first choice. I am saying in my opinion whole situation has not been handled well at all Sounds as if he's not travelled to Liverpool. About to be sold?
irene Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 Sounds as if he's not travelled to Liverpool. About to be sold? Possibly
Block34 Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 Possibly Well, if he ain't good enough to be able to compete for the place, best we get rid of the waste of space - cuts both ways
angelman Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 Possibly Good. If he thinks that he is going to be stuck on the bench, then best to move him on. I want someone with a pair of balls who is going to make Nº1 his or at least try his damndest, not moan about it when someone else comes in who is considered a better option. Or is the club supposed to hold itself back for his sake?
irene Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 You have gazza or Davis to warm your bench with no boruc so sure they will be happy to fight for your number one spot if situation arises
angelman Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 OK Irene, as you have his ear, what exactly is his objection to the situation? Does he not feel that he is good enough to be Nº1?
irene Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 OK Irene, as you have his ear, what exactly is his objection to the situation? Does he not feel that he is good enough to be Nº1? Second question is a question for koeman He wants to be number 1. Problem is there is not a number one position here. No chance of being one under current regime. Certainly was no issue with club before
angelman Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 OK. So Forster has been given the No1 jersey and Artur thinks that he will be unable to show that he is good enough to rest it back. If I might say so, if that is the case, then not a great attitude as it comes across as him thinking he is entitled to be a Nº1. Or are you saying that he has been told that he is never going to play again and that Nºs 2&3 are Kelvin & Gazza? Don't get me wrong, I would love him to stay, but the attitude is somewhat wrong.
irene Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 OK. So Forster has been given the No1 jersey and Artur thinks that he will be unable to show that he is good enough to rest it back. If I might say so, if that is the case, then not a great attitude as it comes across as him thinking he is entitled to be a Nº1. Or are you saying that he has been told that he is never going to play again and that Nºs 2&3 are Kelvin & Gazza? Don't get me wrong, I would love him to stay, but the attitude is somewhat wrong. All I can say is there is no "competition" here
sentry Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 Know of one discussion Don't see point of keeping one unhappy player stuck to a bench they do not want to be on. When he could go for not a lot as your so cash rich thanks to all these sales your spending 12 million on long! Oh that is right they want the guy good enough to be number 1 elsewhere on their bench because if forster gets injured the other two goalies you pay are so bad it is a joke Genuinely thought at first you entertaining. Now its just a bit sad. The other GKs are not a joke. Kelvin was keeper of league 1 and champ keeper. He served us over the years very well and now is at the end of his time as a pro, thats all. You know little to nothing about them soooo maybe keep quite there. If you do know Artur then surely you would agree that as a professional, rather than throwing your toys out a pram and posting messages on instagram ( something my little sister does when she wants attention), artur should , like a pro and mature adult, go to his bosses, talk to them and request a move. simple. Oh and Angelman, I agree with this 'Good. If he thinks that he is going to be stuck on the bench, then best to move him on. I want someone with a pair of balls who is going to make Nº1 his or at least try his damndest, not moan about it when someone else comes in who is considered a better option. Or is the club supposed to hold itself back for his sake? Goodnight Irene, goodnight.
angelman Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 And really...he is 34 so got a few more years left. He stays, commits, tries to get between the posts, might get a reward with an extended contract, giving security. In the course of 2 or 3 seasons, he is bound to get game time. Looking around, I came across this article from last season. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1765845-premier-league-goalkeepers-a-ranking-from-best-to-worst
irene Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 And really...he is 34 so got a few more years left. He stays, commits, tries to get between the posts, might get a reward with an extended contract, giving security. In the course of 2 or 3 seasons, he is bound to get game time. Looking around, I came across this article from last season. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1765845-premier-league-goalkeepers-a-ranking-from-best-to-worst You planning on a new manager coming in re him getting contract extended?
sentry Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 Artur Boruc please stop posting. Good, its not just me then. I picture Artur wearing a cheap wig and an old floral print dress, Norman Bates style.
foxy9143 Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 Looks like chelsea have got the same problem. http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/chelsea/transfer-talk/news/courtois-set-for-mourinho-showdown_171547.html
angelman Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 You planning on a new manager coming in re him getting contract extended? Nope - I imagine planning on replacing a goalie who expects to be Nº1 but who Dave Watson (or are you saying it's Koeman, even though he has come out and said goalie is really down to the GK coach?) thinks is behind Forster and who has got stroppy. Bleacher Report puts him way down, so will be interested to see which EPL side will make him Nº1, although I imagine he will look to move on from EPL. Are you his wife?
T * Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 Looks like Artur has lost his bottle again Shame though, I was beginning to warm to him and he could provide good competition for that spot. Must be plenty of other decent enough backup keepers out there though.
angelman Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 Has he thought about playing further up the pitch? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KdRr_lLQZQ
MarkSFC Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 If Artur Boruc cannot accept that his boss has chosen to make someone else the number one choice goalkeeper when he is at the twilight of his career then he can **** off. These overpaid whingers need to grow up. Pathetic. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
angelman Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 Anyway, enough on this for the evening, save to say.....Artur is a good goalkeeper who I would like to keep here (I think nearly everyone would, if he had the right attitude), but he has to understand that he might not be as good as HE thinks he is.
S4INT Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 Anyway, enough on this for the evening, save to say.....Artur is a good goalkeeper who I would like to keep here (I think nearly everyone would, if he had the right attitude), but he has to understand that he might not be as good as HE thinks he is. Amen
irene Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 Anyway, enough on this for the evening, save to say.....Artur is a good goalkeeper who I would like to keep here (I think nearly everyone would, if he had the right attitude), but he has to understand that he might not be as good as HE thinks he is. Or he is better than koeman and Watson think. End of season will show who is right and who is wrong
Saint Charlie Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 Boruc leaving (and not being replaced) would be bad news for Forster IMO as he would have no genuine competition which is never a good thing.
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 This club is not run for the benefit of Artur Boruc.
Plumstead_Saint Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 Or he is better than koeman and Watson think. End of season will show who is right and who is wrong He sounds like an arrogant pr**k. The sort of muppet who thinks he can beat Giroud with a Cruyff turn LOL And you sound like him/his wife. He has proved with his actin on Instagram that he has no class. Slagging off the other two keepers, the goalkeeper coach and the new manager, and claiming to be LOYAL, is the final straw. Do you really think he would be still at saints if anyone offered a decent price for him? Claiming we are rich so we can let him go cheaply and he has ONE offer says it all.
hypochondriac Posted 16 August, 2014 Posted 16 August, 2014 Or he is better than koeman and Watson think. End of season will show who is right and who is wrong Professionalism irene? Sounds like he doesn't know the meaning of the word.
Jonnyboy Posted 17 August, 2014 Posted 17 August, 2014 How do we know Mr Boruc's post isn't about his personal life eg wife?
irene Posted 17 August, 2014 Posted 17 August, 2014 How do we know Mr Boruc's post isn't about his personal life eg wife? They don't. It is easy to presume he is unprofessional etc etc
Saint Billy Posted 17 August, 2014 Posted 17 August, 2014 Most of us mere mortals have to daily live with the possibility of losing our jobs, being made redundant, being overlooked, earning a pittance and being taken advantage of etc etc. Count yourself lucky Boruc that you can earn a bloody good salary playing a game you love even if it is on the sidelines for the moment.
madruss Posted 17 August, 2014 Posted 17 August, 2014 The good news is, Forster seems to be in better physical shape than Boruc, so we needn't worry so much about him being injured. Therefore the worry about having to play kd or gazza is less.
doddisalegend Posted 17 August, 2014 Posted 17 August, 2014 Boruc leaving (and not being replaced) would be bad news for Forster IMO as he would have no genuine competition which is never a good thing. yeah but out field players know they are more likely to get game time even from the bench you can get subbed on. Keepers who are on the bench generally stay there finding a good keeper who is happy to play second fiddle is not that easy I reckon.
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 17 August, 2014 Posted 17 August, 2014 He's a cheeky ****. He didn't have a club when we signed him. Saints offered him a lifeline. Man up and get on with the job. Social media really isn't helping the modern game is it???
Verbal Kint Posted 17 August, 2014 Posted 17 August, 2014 Social media really isn't helping the modern game is it??? It is. It exposes footballers for the thick, greedy ****s that they are, even if some didn't know it already.
Tractor_Saint Posted 17 August, 2014 Posted 17 August, 2014 (edited) Yup, he hasn't travelled Edited 17 August, 2014 by Tractor_Saint
sentry Posted 17 August, 2014 Posted 17 August, 2014 He's a cheeky ****. He didn't have a club when we signed him. Saints offered him a lifeline. Man up and get on with the job. Social media really isn't helping the modern game is it??? It really isnt. I understand kids using it as they were bought up with it, but Boruc? He is 34! Im 33 and dont have instagram or twitter etc. Learne to be an adult first. But then they are footballers, I spose education came secondary to them (that's not a dig,, just prob true). If I were chairman I would have a straight ban on social media or a damn lot of fines/training around the subject. This is was Lovren, then Morgan now Boruc. All grown ass men with nothing better to do, thats the problem, too much thinking time, make them do 9-5, trainging, watch videos, visit hospitals etc. Urgh, modern football is tough work to try to still love. But I do, so COYR!
Badger Posted 17 August, 2014 Posted 17 August, 2014 It really isnt. I understand kids using it as they were bought up with it, but Boruc? He is 34! Im 33 and dont have instagram or twitter etc. Learne to be an adult first. But then they are footballers, I spose education came secondary to them (that's not a dig,, just prob true). If I were chairman I would have a straight ban on social media or a damn lot of fines/training around the subject. This is was Lovren, then Morgan now Boruc. All grown ass men with nothing better to do, thats the problem, too much thinking time, make them do 9-5, trainging, watch videos, visit hospitals etc. Urgh, modern football is tough work to try to still love. But I do, so COYR! Too much time (and money) without any thinking might be more accurate.
Crab Lungs Posted 17 August, 2014 Posted 17 August, 2014 We've ****ed off the best keeper we've had since Niemi. Wonderful.
CB Fry Posted 17 August, 2014 Posted 17 August, 2014 We've ****ed off the best keeper we've had since Niemi. Wonderful. Beautifully laughable.
Turkish Posted 17 August, 2014 Posted 17 August, 2014 We've ****ed off the best keeper we've had since Niemi. Wonderful. You're becoming an embarrassment.
OldNick Posted 17 August, 2014 Posted 17 August, 2014 If Artur Boruc cannot accept that his boss has chosen to make someone else the number one choice goalkeeper when he is at the twilight of his career then he can **** off. These overpaid whingers need to grow up. Pathetic. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalkif Boruc is being such a child then it is a shame. I assume he didn't feel any guilt taking the place of others when he joined. They were professional and knuckled down
hutch Posted 17 August, 2014 Posted 17 August, 2014 We've ****ed off the best keeper we've had since Niemi. Wonderful. Why is he ****ed off? I thought he was playing today.
Essruu Posted 17 August, 2014 Posted 17 August, 2014 We've ****ed off the best keeper we've had since Niemi. Wonderful. Already? That's £10m down the f###ing drain, then :-(
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 17 August, 2014 Posted 17 August, 2014 Is this Irene...Mrs Boruc? or a relation or something?
S-Clarke Posted 17 August, 2014 Posted 17 August, 2014 We've ****ed off the best keeper we've had since Niemi. Wonderful. Your posts are becoming embarrassing mate. Your rep. is long gone.
Crab Lungs Posted 17 August, 2014 Posted 17 August, 2014 Like I care for an internet reputation.. come on!
Halo Stickman Posted 17 August, 2014 Posted 17 August, 2014 Is this Irene...Mrs Boruc? or a relation or something? Nah, probably just a friend
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