vince Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 How we've missed him predicting 38 2-0 defeats in a row....... "Southampton went to Liverpool and beat them 1-0 early last season but, for obvious reasons, they will take a very different team to Anfield on Sunday. Three players who were part of that Saints side are at Liverpool now, but Dejan Lovren might be the only one who starts against his former club. Adam Lallana is not fit and Rickie Lambert will probably have to settle for a place on the bench. Southampton's business plan seems to be to bring players in, train them up and sell them on, which is great when it works but it is a big ask to do it again and again. Liverpool have actually bought very well after selling Luis Suarez to Barcelona but only up to a point because they have still not answered the question of how on earth they are going to replace Suarez's goals - not just the quantity but also the quality of his strikes. We know why they are still looking for reinforcements, because if Daniel Sturridge gets injured they will not have an out-and-out striker with any pace. In the meantime, I think they will have too much for Saints. But just because Liverpool now have even more options in other attacking positions does not make them as strong as when they had Suarez in their team. Without him, it will be harder for them to finish in the top four this season. Lawro's prediction: 2-0 Liam's prediction: 3-0 " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Fair enough. Could easily predict a 4-0 win and it would still be fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 At least they didn't predict 7-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 What makes me laugh is that no one accounts for the fact Liverpool will also be fielding new players and have lost their only good player! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 I'd take 2-0. Anyone else?! I'd take 2-0 if our performance is good. If its as i fear we'll look like a a hastily arranged mediocre mess losing comfortablly 2-0 to a misfiring Liverpool side then no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Ha! I reckon we are going to win 1-2, so there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampersound Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Lovren sent off, Saints win 3-1 and Lambert scores their only goal. I'm dreaming but here's hoping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 (edited) What makes me laugh is that no one accounts for the fact Liverpool will also be fielding new players and have lost their only good player! They could also put out 10 of their starting side from their long winning run towards the end of last season if they wanted to ensure stability. And their Suarez-less side which played the first 6 matches of last season won 4 and drew one before we beat them at Anfield. Here's the side that beat Man City 3-2: S Mignolet, M Skrtel, M Sakho, G Johnson, J Flanagan, R Sterling (V Moses, 89), S Gerrard, J Henderson (s/o 90), P Coutinho (Lucas, 89), L Suarez , D Sturridge (J Allen, 66). Only one of those players isn't available. And they've only lost 2 League matches in 2014 so far out of 22. Edited 14 August, 2014 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince Posted 14 August, 2014 Author Share Posted 14 August, 2014 At least they didn't predict 7-1. That's Tommo's job on Soccer Saturday, followed by MLT putting him down with a cutting comment that goes completely over his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 They could also put out 10 of their starting side from their long winning run towards the end of last season if they wanted to ensure stability. And their Suarez-less side which played the first 6 matches of last season won 4 and drew one before we beat them at Anfield. Here's the side that beat Man City 3-2: S Mignolet, M Skrtel, M Sakho, G Johnson, J Flanagan, R Sterling (V Moses, 89), S Gerrard, J Henderson (s/o 90), P Coutinho (Lucas, 89), L Suarez , D Sturridge (J Allen, 66). Only one of those players isn't available. And they've only lost 2 League matches in 2014 so far out of 22. Could but wont it'll have just as many changes as ours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 What makes me laugh is that no one accounts for the fact Liverpool will also be fielding new players and have lost their only good player! From Lawrenson's comments: "they have still not answered the question of how on earth they are going to replace Suarez's goals - not just the quantity but also the quality of his strikes". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 What is astonishing in Lawrenson's remarks is this statement: "Southampton's business plan seems to be to bring players in, train them up and sell them on, which is great when it works but it is a big ask to do it again and again." Does he not see that the large exodus of players this summer was driven by the players themselves, not a plan of the Club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 What is astonishing in Lawrenson's remarks is this statement: "Southampton's business plan seems to be to bring players in, train them up and sell them on, which is great when it works but it is a big ask to do it again and again." Does he not see that the large exodus of players this summer was driven by the players themselves, not a plan of the Club? Or the fact if we could have kept them, the wage bill would have gone sky high and the sustainability of the club would be in jeopardy without a player sale. The club cannot win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyboy Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 At least they didn't predict 7-1. Where would our 1 come from? Own goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 22 August, 2014 Share Posted 22 August, 2014 Lawro predicting a Saints win against West brom and thinks we need another striker...... Southampton v West Brom Like Palace and West Ham, here are two more teams who played well last weekend but were a bit unlucky. West Brom played all the football against Sunderland but ended up sharing the points. And I was very impressed by Southampton despite their defeat by Liverpool. Saints were solid defensively and carried a real threat going forward. On that showing, it did not look like they were missing all the players who left over the summer. They still looked like a team, not a collection of individuals - which I thought they might be because of their turnover of players over the summer. My only reservation about Southampton is how many goals they have got in them - I know they have signed Shane Long and Graziano Pelle this summer but, unless they strengthen further, I am not sure they will be as strong up front as they are in other areas. It is the same for West Brom. They are competitive in all areas but how they do up front is what will decide whether they have another season struggling to stay up. So the pressure is on their new £10m striker Brown Ideye to deliver when he makes his competitive debut. Lawro's prediction: 2-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 22 August, 2014 Share Posted 22 August, 2014 Lawro predicting a Saints win against West brom and thinks we need another striker...... Southampton v West Brom Like Palace and West Ham, here are two more teams who played well last weekend but were a bit unlucky. West Brom played all the football against Sunderland but ended up sharing the points. And I was very impressed by Southampton despite their defeat by Liverpool. Saints were solid defensively and carried a real threat going forward. On that showing, it did not look like they were missing all the players who left over the summer. They still looked like a team, not a collection of individuals - which I thought they might be because of their turnover of players over the summer. My only reservation about Southampton is how many goals they have got in them - I know they have signed Shane Long and Graziano Pelle this summer but, unless they strengthen further, I am not sure they will be as strong up front as they are in other areas. It is the same for West Brom. They are competitive in all areas but how they do up front is what will decide whether they have another season struggling to stay up. So the pressure is on their new £10m striker Brown Ideye to deliver when he makes his competitive debut. Lawro's prediction: 2-0 Much will depend on what the club think about Rodriquez's recovery and attitude as well as Gallagher's progression as to whether another striker comes in. Mayuka is not an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 22 August, 2014 Share Posted 22 August, 2014 Much will depend on what the club think about Rodriquez's recovery and attitude as well as Gallagher's progression as to whether another striker comes in. Mayuka is not an option. Gallager is MIA isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 29 August, 2014 Share Posted 29 August, 2014 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/15205/9444182/paul-mersons-premier-league-predictions-week-three In comparison good old Lawro http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28968148 Great effort by Sarah Harding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxon Posted 29 August, 2014 Share Posted 29 August, 2014 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/15205/9444182/paul-mersons-premier-league-predictions-week-three In comparison good old Lawro http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28968148 Great effort by Sarah Harding I don't think there's been anything to complain about with his assessments so far this season. His point about the goals is a valid one, we need Pelle and Long to hit some serious form and to get some excellent service. He predicted we should have won against West Brom, I think we all feel like that was 2 points lost to a poor game, but better early in the season than later when it really starts to matter (look at the opening goes of last season, 1-1 home to sunderland? That was a sh1t3 game, the rest of the season was sweet). And he's fair here, considering our last trips to the Boleyn, a draw would be an improvement for a start! Plus he thinks we'll be fine and tjinks we're stronger than the results suggest, I think that's definitely true, it's just a shame we only showed that at Liverpool and not WBA. Hopefully we might be able to show it against West Ham for once! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 29 August, 2014 Share Posted 29 August, 2014 The confidence shown by the BBC in their football expert is apparent from the quality of the alternative experts they are prepared to put him up against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 29 August, 2014 Share Posted 29 August, 2014 The confidence shown by the BBC in their football expert is apparent from the quality of the alternative experts they are prepared to put him up against. Or, it's just a bit of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 29 August, 2014 Share Posted 29 August, 2014 Could but wont it'll have just as many changes as ours! Liverpool last game of last season: S Mignolet, D Agger, M Skrtel, G Johnson, J Flanagan, R Sterling, S Gerrard, J Allen, J Henderson, L Suarez, D Sturridge v Saints S Mignolet, Javi Manquillo, M Skrtel, D Lovren, G Johnson, R Sterling, S Gerrard, Lucas, J Henderson, P Coutinho, D Sturridge 4 changes (2 of which were tactical for players who've been with them over a year already, they could have picked Agger or Allen if they'd wanted). Saints last game of last season A Boruc, L Shaw, D Lovren, J Fonte, N Clyne, J Cork, M Schneiderlin, V Wanyama, R Lambert, S Davis, A Lallana v Liverpool F Forster, J Fonte, R Bertrand, N Clyne, M Yoshida, S Davis, M Schneiderlin, V Wanyama, J Ward-Prowse, G Pelle, D Tadic 6 changes, again with 2 players who were at the club last season and could have played. So no, it didn't have "as many changes as ours", in fact we had 20% more changes than Liverpool compared to the final game of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 29 August, 2014 Share Posted 29 August, 2014 What is astonishing in Lawrenson's remarks is this statement: "Southampton's business plan seems to be to bring players in, train them up and sell them on, which is great when it works but it is a big ask to do it again and again." Does he not see that the large exodus of players this summer was driven by the players themselves, not a plan of the Club? We won't know whether that's the case or not until next summer, I'd be fairly confident that Rodriguez, Schneiderlin, and Ward-Prowse will get sold, plus those whose contracts are expiring like Cork and Boruc may also not be around, and Bertrand may prove to be short term too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxon Posted 29 August, 2014 Share Posted 29 August, 2014 Or, it's just a bit of fun. Don't be ridiculous it couldn't be a bit of fun, it's related to football, everything related to football has be taken deadly seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andoru Posted 12 September, 2014 Share Posted 12 September, 2014 He's gone for a 2-0 win for us this time. http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29163212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 12 September, 2014 Share Posted 12 September, 2014 His predictions and comments are no longer anything for fans to rant about anymore. Merson on other hand...... http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/15205/9464755/paul-mersons-premier-league-predictions-round-four None of us expected anything from mighty West Ham I'd we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingdomCome Posted 12 September, 2014 Share Posted 12 September, 2014 His predictions and comments are no longer anything for fans to rant about anymore. Merson on other hand...... http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/15205/9464755/paul-mersons-premier-league-predictions-round-four None of us expected anything from mighty West Ham I'd we? Opinions are like a*seh0les, and so is Merson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 18 September, 2014 Share Posted 18 September, 2014 weekly Lawro watch Lawro reckons we will beat Swansea / Neil Lennon on the other hand thinks we will lose:( http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29237605 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/15205/9498216/paul-mersons-premier-league-predictions-round-seven Shock horror 1-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellow&blue Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/15205/9498216/paul-mersons-premier-league-predictions-round-seven Shock horror 1-3 Nice as the prediction is, I think the fact that Paul Merson is an ex Arsenal player might have something to do with it.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 or an ex-dipsomaniac (or is that a bit low of me?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 or an ex-dipsomaniac (or is that a bit low of me?) Thanks. I learnt a new word today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Lawro reckons we are favourites for this game and have had a great start to the season he also reckons Spurs are struggling for goals so naturally he has predicted........................ spurs to win 2-0:o http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29435443 He is up against Ossie Ardiles this week I let others work out what the Spurs legend has predicted:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Lawro reckons we are favourites for this game and have had a great start to the season he also reckons Spurs are struggling for goals so naturally he has predicted........................ spurs to win 2-0:o http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29435443 He is up against Ossie Ardiles this week I let others work out what the Spurs legend has predicted:p TBF his predictions for us so far have been W4 D1 L1 so has been spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 TBF his predictions for us so far have been W4 D1 L1 so has been spot on I don't have any problem with prediction really I could see us losing to Spurs myself. I just thought it was funny that he bigged us up and put Spurs down and them plumped for a spurs win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sad saints fan Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Merson has predicted a 3-1 win for us. I wonder if his Arsenal past is a strong influence on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 I don't have any problem with prediction really I could see us losing to Spurs myself. I just thought it was funny that he bigged us up and put Spurs down and them plumped for a spurs win It is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fez Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 He never makes bold predictions. This time he's going for seven 2-0 home wins out of the 10 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 What does everyone expect him to say? 'Southampton are ubeaten except for the defeat at Liverpool where they deserved something from the game. They are genuine top 6 contenders based on recent form, and I'd expect them to brush aside a Spurs side without a league win since August 24th. Pelle has been in fine form for Saints, whilst Spurs are still lacking a regular goalscorer. Spurs 1-2 Saints'. We have no chance of winning sadly, due to the nature of football results. We are due a defeat and I will be having a nice lump on Spurs at 6/5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 He never makes bold predictions. This time he's going for seven 2-0 home wins out of the 10 games Fans of all clubs go "he has an agenda against us" apes hit now, based on him not being "bold" in his forecasts. How do you think the sensitive flowers on here would cope if Lawro started chucking 4-0 predictions about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stug76 Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Fans of all clubs go "he has an agenda against us" apes hit now, based on him not being "bold" in his forecasts. How do you think the sensitive flowers on here would cope if Lawro started chucking 4-0 predictions about? It must be fantastic being you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 What does everyone expect him to say? 'Southampton are ubeaten except for the defeat at Liverpool where they deserved something from the game. They are genuine top 6 contenders based on recent form, and I'd expect them to brush aside a Spurs side without a league win since August 24th. Pelle has been in fine form for Saints, whilst Spurs are still lacking a regular goalscorer. Spurs 1-2 Saints'. We have no chance of winning sadly, due to the nature of football results. We are due a defeat and I will be having a nice lump on Spurs at 6/5. ''We have no chance''. Of course we do, what exactly is the point of thinking like that? And why bet against your own team, it's just weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorne Malvo Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 ' And why bet against your own team, it's just weird. It numbs the pain if the bet comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 We have the better team, the stronger defence, a fine midfield and the greater goal threat. Tottenham have home advantage. Will home advantage outweigh that they are up against a better team? It's always possible but IMHO the a win for Saints looks more likely. In effect that is what Lawrenson says as well, but then, against the logic of form, he opts to predict a home win. If he expects to taken seriously he should justify his predictions, not just toss a coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 We have the better team, the stronger defence, a fine midfield and the greater goal threat. Tottenham have home advantage. Will home advantage outweigh that they are up against a better team? It's always possible but IMHO the a win for Saints looks more likely. In effect that is what Lawrenson says as well, but then, against the logic of form, he opts to predict a home win. If he expects to taken seriously he should justify his predictions, not just toss a coin. Have a look at the betting odds for the weekend. He doesn't have to justify predicting a Spurs win based on that, not that he has to justify his predictions anyway in a meaningless, lighthearted competition he does for the BBC. And it isn't necessarily logical to make predictions based on form. Form changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Thanks. I learnt a new word today. Same here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 ''We have no chance''. Of course we do, what exactly is the point of thinking like that? And why bet against your own team, it's just weird. Saint_Richmond, sorry, I mean Saint_Robbie, no I didn't I meant Saint_Tony, tut silly me, likes throwing these posts around. Like if we lose we're going to be no better than 9th. Strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_emu Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Lawro reckons we are favourites for this game and have had a great start to the season he also reckons Spurs are struggling for goals so naturally he has predicted........................ spurs to win 2-0:o http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29435443 He is up against Ossie Ardiles this week I let others work out what the Spurs legend has predicted:p Lawro's clearly confused what Spurs need versus what they are capable of getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingdomCome Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Being generally pessimistic (and superstitious), I have to say if I wrote a prediction it would be pretty much the exact same as Lawro's this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 And why bet against your own team, it's just weird. I do it most weeks - its win/win ...if you get my drift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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