S-Clarke Posted 13 August, 2014 Posted 13 August, 2014 And he wouldn't want to come here anyway, he has aspirations of better things, that and we wouldn't pay him enough.. He's only on 80k a week...
Sanjay Sanchez Posted 13 August, 2014 Posted 13 August, 2014 Robbie Savage has predicted bottom three for us so that makes me feel a little bit better.
Big Bad Bob Posted 13 August, 2014 Posted 13 August, 2014 He's only on 80k a week... And how much are we paying our top players??
SNSUN Posted 13 August, 2014 Posted 13 August, 2014 Robbie Savage has predicted bottom three for us so that makes me feel a little bit better. As have some fans of other clubs on the BBC live feed today. Lazy predictions really, based on the very public knowledge we've lost our key players this summer. But we still have Clyne, Fonte, Wanyama, Davis, all good solid pros, and we've strengthened too. We shouldn't be concerned with relegation, certainly not at the end of the season. If we do end up down there, we've been mismanaged, but in Koeman I can't see that happening.
Beckenham Saint Posted 13 August, 2014 Posted 13 August, 2014 What an awful coupl eof months, manager left, 6 players, loan replacements and now paying over the top for players like Long. I do like him but feel he isn't as good as Rickie and costing three times as much. Remy was £8.5 million so how is Long worth £12 million?? I do hope the new players gel and we have something to shout about but players like Rojo and Caulker seem to have ignored us and it's a pity we couldn't secure somenody of that calibre. It's all about perspective. Replacing manager who has had one good season with us with a manager who has a better track record and history than any other manager we've ever appointed. Losing 5 players but wrangling over the top prices from the biggest clubs in the country to allow us to replace well. Signing Europe's 3rd highest goalscorer in the last two years, the best player from the Eredevise, England's 3rd choice goalkeeper who has Champions League experience and taking players on loan from Chelsea (a champions league winner) and a quality player Inter Milan (Whilst shipping out the headcase Osvaldo), both with the option to buy at the end of the season with fee's already agreed? I'd take that any day. We are paying over the odds for Long, but realistically, we wouldn't get him for any less than Hull paid for him at least and they will want to see some profit so they can get a quality replacement. I'm not a Shane Long fan at all but understand why Hull are making us pay over the odds, just like we did to Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United. Also, Remy's buyout clause of £8.5m is only an option to teams currently in the Champions League. If we wanted to sign him then the fee would have been around £18m and then add ons. Rojo and Caulker are actually not in the same calibre. Rojo is much better. Of course he would ignore us when Manchester United came calling. Caulker apparently had a medical with us but he had the chance to work with an ex-manager and in an area he knows better. Can see why he went with them, and they would have offered him more money as they don't seem to care how much they pay if they land their targets.
Donatello Posted 14 August, 2014 Posted 14 August, 2014 Apologies if already posted (although it's only just appeared on the BBC's live stream) : Dan Roan BBC Sport #PLPredictions Posted at 11:11 "1. Liverpool, 2. Chelsea, 3. Man City, 4. Arsenal, Bottom three: Southampton, Burnley, Leicester. "Most people will understandably write Liverpool off having lost their best player & with the added burden of Europe again. But last season was no fluke. The runners-up have reinvested the Suarez cash wisely, and for the first time in years have proper strength in depth and a solid defence. "In Sterling, Coutinho and Sturridge they also possess the kind of young, attacking talent that will only improve, and which can compensate for the departure of their former talisman. Liverpool can go one better than last year, and be the surprise champions the premier league so desperately needs. There will be life after Luis, just you watch."
saint_ed Posted 14 August, 2014 Posted 14 August, 2014 Apologies if already posted (although it's only just appeared on the BBC's live stream) : Dan Roan BBC Sport #PLPredictions Posted at 11:11 "1. Liverpool, 2. Chelsea, 3. Man City, 4. Arsenal, Bottom three: Southampton, Burnley, Leicester. "Most people will understandably write Liverpool off having lost their best player & with the added burden of Europe again. But last season was no fluke. The runners-up have reinvested the Suarez cash wisely, and for the first time in years have proper strength in depth and a solid defence. "In Sterling, Coutinho and Sturridge they also possess the kind of young, attacking talent that will only improve, and which can compensate for the departure of their former talisman. Liverpool can go one better than last year, and be the surprise champions the premier league so desperately needs. There will be life after Luis, just you watch." The fact he is predicting Liverpool will win the league instantly takes away any credibility in his opinions. However, I do fear a little for us this season. Our whole team spirit has been ripped out and those things aren't replaced overnight with £10m.
Donatello Posted 14 August, 2014 Posted 14 August, 2014 (edited) The fact he is predicting Liverpool will win the league instantly takes away any credibility in his opinions.[\B] However, I do fear a little for us this season. Our whole team spirit has been ripped out and those things aren't replaced overnight with £10m. My thoughts exactly. Furthermore, if their second place finish was no fluke, how could they possibly be surprise champions, let alone the champions we're all apparently craving for. Edited 14 August, 2014 by Donatello
broncoboy Posted 14 August, 2014 Posted 14 August, 2014 As have some fans of other clubs on the BBC live feed today. Lazy predictions really, based on the very public knowledge we've lost our key players this summer. But we still have Clyne, Fonte, Wanyama, Davis, all good solid pros, and we've strengthened too. We shouldn't be concerned with relegation, certainly not at the end of the season. If we do end up down there, we've been mismanaged, but in Koeman I can't see that happening. If we get relegated we can storm the directors box at the last match of the season Capture Uncle Les put a dunces cap on his head and lead him round the ground He would have a placard saying " i was a donkey to sell all the best players without signing replacements " That would be entertainment
Chez Posted 14 August, 2014 Posted 14 August, 2014 Robbie Savage has predicted bottom three for us so that makes me feel a little bit better. even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day. Sadly I'm with the **** on this occasion. I think we will go down.
Killers Knee Posted 14 August, 2014 Posted 14 August, 2014 Blues Gunners Citeh Spuds Reds Manure Toffees Barcodes Potters Saints Mackems Foxes Irons Palarse Tigers Hoops Villains Clarets Baggies Jacks
lifeintheslowlane Posted 14 August, 2014 Posted 14 August, 2014 Our whole team spirit has been ripped out and those things aren't replaced overnight with £10m. Only if the team have been reading this forum...otherwise I would think their attitude would be pretty positive. 9th.
Beckenham Saint Posted 14 August, 2014 Posted 14 August, 2014 even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day. Sadly I'm with the **** on this occasion. I think we will go down. At the risk of sounding confrontational, how exactly have you come to that prediction?
hypochondriac Posted 14 August, 2014 Posted 14 August, 2014 At the risk of sounding confrontational, how exactly have you come to that prediction? I think there are a whole host of reasons why someone could predict we will go down this season. I think we will survive but getting relegated wouldn't surprise me.
corsacar saint Posted 14 August, 2014 Posted 14 August, 2014 We will come around 12th and Liverpool will not win the league without Suarez.
syd_barrett_saint Posted 14 August, 2014 Posted 14 August, 2014 I think we'll finish top half. (Probably 10th)
SaintSeb Posted 14 August, 2014 Posted 14 August, 2014 At this moment in time I think how we'll do depends on, 1) Pelle and/or Long hitting the ground running and grabbing goals early; it's crucial having lost our three top scorers either to injury or Brendan's Bottler Brigade that our new strike-force are among the goals ASAP so as to boost confidence and build momentum, otherwise too much pressure will be placed on J-Rod to instantly return to the heights of last season. (If he ever plays for us again that is) 2) Forster, Fonte/Gardos and Wanyama/Morgan (If he plays, if not then Taider assuming Cork's off) forming a solid defensive spine and staying fit; if this happens there could be similar good times ahead this season as last, but we can't afford to have the injuries at the back and a subsequent December/January slump like last year as I highly doubt we'll be in such lethal early season form, consistency is key. 3) Schneiderlin either being talked round by Koeman, or sent on his not so merry way; having him causing trouble and potentially unsettling others until January will be extremely harmful to morale and cause unwanted negative media attention. I still have hope he'll step out in Saints colours again, but if there's no chance that'll happen then I'd honestly rather we cut our losses, provided of course that a bid comes in at the right price and it's not from Spurs. A lot of ifs and buts regarding this though, so unfortunately I can see it rumbling on until the window shuts and beyond. 4) Somebody stepping up creatively and getting that final ball right! Having gone to see the Bayer 04 game, and watching the Bompey game on YT, it is clear that whilst we still play some really great stuff in the midfield areas and pushing into the opposition half, we are still too tentative in finding that killer pass/cross to unlock the defense. I am hoping that Ramirez and Tadic can form an understanding and our full backs can develop they're crossing ability so we have multiple avenues of service for our strikers, or else we'll be struggling as I think with perfect service Pelle will bang in the goals but if not he doesn't seem to have the technical prowess to make things happen for himself like Rickie did. I'd love for him to prove me wrong of course, but that is what I've gathered. Haven't mentioned Long as I'm unsure as to whether he'll be playing off Pelle like a poacher or out wide. If everything comes together positively, I predict top 10, but if not then comfortably lower mid-table (14th sort of area). I don't see us struggling awfully to get to 40 points as I still maintain we are a better side than all we finished above last season except for Newcastle and possibly (eugh) Stoke. People forget how low the quality of the bottom 10 teams in this league was last year, albeit some have strengthened, but not to the level we were at last year I don't think.
Chez Posted 14 August, 2014 Posted 14 August, 2014 At the risk of sounding confrontational, how exactly have you come to that prediction? Games are won and lost by the tightest of margins and I think those margins have been lost. Fans are underestimating the impact of losing Lallana, Shaŵ and Lovren. I also think Morgan will go too. Too much quality going out.
Patrick Bateman Posted 14 August, 2014 Posted 14 August, 2014 1. Chelsea 2. Man Utd 3. Man City 4. Arsenal 5. Liverpool 6. Everton 7. Tottenham 8-15. Pretty much any of the other teams in the league, in any order, except; Villa, Palace, West Brom, Leicester, Burnley (16-20) Aye?
Saint Benali Posted 14 August, 2014 Posted 14 August, 2014 Think we are in for some hammerings this season. The squad as it is just doesn't have enough fire power to push us into the top 10. So I think it will be a relegation battle, which we will just survive.
SNSUN Posted 2 September, 2014 Posted 2 September, 2014 Still too early for this, 2nd September after the dust has settled is when it should be done... ...That said, we can speculate. As it stands with the squad as it is, we will struggle, finishing possibly 14th to 17th, possibly surprising people with luck behind us as high as, say, 12th. But we all know signings will still be made, and some of the links have been very positive. With the right signings, we could we finish as high as we did last season. This season is transitional for us though, I'll be happy with 14th or higher, meaning we've done no worse than in the season after promotion. I said September 2nd and I stand by it! So the transfers in have been good, if they can gel quickly (and the relatively unknown qualities of Gardos and Mané prove to be good) then we should be in for a top half finish. We look strong defensively. My slight concern is creativity but overall I don't think we're much weaker than last season. I'm going to predict 10th.
sadoldgit Posted 2 September, 2014 Posted 2 September, 2014 I am rubbish at predicting but I would go for 10th too. Still early days but I think we will be better at putting weaker teams to the sword under RK whereas we might not pick up so many points against the stronger sides. I get the feeling that RK is looking for more goals from midfield which is no bad thing. Pelle I am sure will score goals - how many who knows. Long I am not so sure about but hey, if Morgan gets on the score sheet more often who cares! It will be an interesting season f'sure!
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 2 September, 2014 Posted 2 September, 2014 Just checked back on the other predictions thread as I wasn't entirely sure what I said. I plumped for 9-14th, saying I didn't think much would separate those places. As it stands I'd probably still say about there. Having Forster & boruc should help. Another CB and I think the first XI is looking in reasonably good shape. Still a little worried on depth, though that was an issue last year and it still didn't end too bad then. The keeper situation was the biggest killer imo. So yeah, slightly worse off than last year, but I don't see us getting relegated. Yeah probably about this. Batman/TDD
KingdomCome Posted 2 September, 2014 Posted 2 September, 2014 I don't think I was too far wrong saying 12th - 14th. I'd say 10th - 12th if pushed for an answer now, maybe with a good cup run. I think we're looking very good for creativity. Very interested to see how Tadic, Pelle, Mane and JRod (when he's back) work together. Could create a lot of problems for a number of defenses.
Wes Tender Posted 2 September, 2014 Posted 2 September, 2014 7th, above Spurs. We could have been 7th or even 6th last season had we not had the injuries to Boruc and Wanyama and latterly Rodriguez. We now have some quite decent cover in more depth than last season, particularly in defence and more options in attack, especially when Rodriguez returns. I think that tactically Koeman is better than Pochettino too, and will set up a team better to counter the opposition than he did. It would be nice to think that we will receive praise from the pundits for the exciting attacking and passing football that we will play, hopefully as displayed against Liverpool and West Ham, rather than that against West Brom. I don't see any team overwhelming us particularly, because we have a solid midfield in front of a decent defence and goalkeeper. It has been strange the transition from when we last in the PL to the past couple of seasons. Before, there was trepidation when we played the top teams, but last season we could potentially beat any team on the day and I feel the same way now, despite losing those players. We are now an unknown quantity to many teams and we could surprise a lot of them.
Ohio Saint Posted 2 September, 2014 Posted 2 September, 2014 I'm going for 7th......based purely on optimism.
broken spoke Posted 2 September, 2014 Posted 2 September, 2014 Heart says 8th, but head is sorta around 12th... But it all depends whether the team jells, and we improve, and no major injuries.
Saint IQ Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 7th 7th Gold stars for you two especially after the summer we had, posted within minutes of each other as well Where are we finishing this season mystic megs?
Plastic Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Said 8th last year, but I'm less confident this time, especially if (when) we lose Morgan. So... 14th
Pwoite Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 8th We would have to buy three good players or keep Morgan and buy two to set eighth, especially with Europe looming. Suspect 14th is more likely.
SaintRobbie Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Blues Gunners Citeh Spuds Reds Manure Toffees Barcodes Potters Saints Mackems Foxes Irons Palarse Tigers Hoops Villains Clarets Baggies Jacks Yep - mid table max. Unless we start buying quality soon. But it's still early. I hope we start to make some significant signings soon.
Batman Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 If we get to the group stages of the EL - 13th Knocked out before - 9th
Saint IQ Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Latter stages of Europa 10th, Group stages 9th, no Europa 8th
Lighthouse Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 I think solidly around midtable but lower than last season. It's someone else's turn to over perform now, we've been at it for 2 years.
PhilippineSaint Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 8th and champions league due to winning the Europa cup
Saint IQ Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 8th and champions league due to winning the Europa cup And an F.A cup win, Nice
Dalek2003 Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Reality check this year. Europe will not help at all. 15th, with some part of the season in the relegation zone.
Saint_Ash Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 8th I was one out last year but I'll go for 8th again. Reckon I'll be one out again either way.
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