KingdomCome Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 I did think 12th a few weeks back. As things stand I would say 15th. If we manage to sign a few more, I might change back to 12th. So in conclusion, I've got no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 My prediction of 12th is based on us making more signings and everything that I think will happen between now and the end of the season... don't see much point making a prediction based on how things are at this exact moment in time when it is obvious we're trying to make more signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 14th, but safe well before the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 Just checked back on the other predictions thread as I wasn't entirely sure what I said. I plumped for 9-14th, saying I didn't think much would separate those places. As it stands I'd probably still say about there. Having Forster & boruc should help. Another CB and I think the first XI is looking in reasonably good shape. Still a little worried on depth, though that was an issue last year and it still didn't end too bad then. The keeper situation was the biggest killer imo. So yeah, slightly worse off than last year, but I don't see us getting relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_jas Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 14th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 As we are 14th. Couple of quality additions 9th. 3+ quality additions 7th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambsaint Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 There are in reality three separate mini-leagues in The Prem. The top five, and just possibly Spurs and Everton fighting for Europe, then seven or eight fighting for the middle places, and the relegation league. As long as we're in the middle league this season I don't much mind. If we're being honest then our ambition is normally sixth to tenth. To break into the top league would require huge ambition and investment on the part of the owner and a stadium enlargement, as much as I'd like to see it happen I doubt it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 Bottom 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 Current squad I would be over the moon with 17th! I think we will get another 2 or 3 in so final positions hinge very much on the quality of those additions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 However, big caveat, we are 2-3 injuries away from a disaster (e.g. Pelle, Fonte (!) Tadic) Agree, we have a decent starting X1 but we are not many injuries away from having to field a back 4 of Clyne, Hoovield, Yoshida and Targett. We were very lucky with injuries last season, I think it has lulled many into thinking we are better than we are. Injuries are always a major factor in clubs the size as ours in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 I think people underestimate just how astonishingly bad you have to be to get relegated. In 2005 we had a team with Bernard, Delap, Lundekvam and Davenport in the back four and still came within 30 minutes of staying up. I'm not sure why Yoshida has suddenly been branded crap just because Lovren replaced him. He was a very competent centre half in our first season up, probably the best of the three and easily better than Claus or Davenport were. I can't really put forward an argument for this team being worse than the one that finished 14th in our first season. Shaw and Chambers weren't ready then and Lallana was ineffective. Bertrand is stronger than Fox and now we have Wanyama and Forster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 15th, 6 points clear of relegation.(if we sign a quality CB, Striker and cover for RB). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 I can't really put forward an argument for this team being worse than the one that finished 14th in our first season. Save yourself the bother - most of these judgements aren't based on any subjective analysis, just an emotional gut reaction to all that has happened in the last few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 http://www.statsbomb.com/2014/08/epl-season-preview-2014-15-southampton/ This preview is excellent, mirrors my thoughts (though I haven't heard of a few of the people he mentions as possible targets). Definitely worth a read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 19th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint michael Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 17th ish. I think we just look a bit soft / light weight and just have this nagging feeling that it will take us time to gel. The fixtures need us off and running too so may this May play against us too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 you say "you" as if that is unique to me none of us have an idea. I have explained why I have us down to struggle badly You predict us to struggle at every chance.. My prediction is 10th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaise Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 11th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 ....we are not many injuries away from having to field a back 4 of Clyne, Hoovield, Yoshida and Targett. Who is cover for Clyne now Chambers has gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croydonsaint Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 great post Becks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croydonsaint Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 Mid-to lower Mid-table. Think we'll finish around 10th / 12th. Season of transition while new players bed in and a new style is put in place. I don't think we will be in any real danger of relegation as we have a good manager in place, and our new players look like good acquisitions. We have a very good starting XI and we have decent youth coming through, but as we all know, we just need depth. We need a solid addition at the back, and we need either another striker as an alternative option to Pelle or we need a sort of second striker to pick up all the balls he will knock down as he is clearly very accomplished in the air. If we have those, I can see us pushing the top half. This year we are stronger between the posts, weaker in the central defence but our first choice full backs are both very good so no problems there (it's just the cover we need to worry about, but the club are clearly looking into that.) Midfield we are arguably stronger than last year, especially with the addition of Taider who looks like a really good player (he came from Inter Milan though, so of course he would!) Tadic looks like a good buy and Ramirez has impressed me in his appearances this pre-season, as has Wanyama. We are a bit light up top, but am sure we will add another player there and Rodriguez will be a boost when he returns. I am so much more excited for this season than last year. Didn't overly warm to Pochettino and was never Lallana's biggest fan, so I'm pleased in a way that he's not there so everyone can stop creaming their sheets every time he does a Cruyff Turn! He lost the ball more than any other player in the league last year, a stat that is often over looked. Shaw not the biggest loss in the world considering he never got a goal or assist and Bertrand is perfectly capable of defending well and has a bit more experience. If we replace Lovren well then we will do OK at the back. We are back to a defence that kept us up the year before last, so I'm not overly concerned with those, but obviously if we want to push on again we will need better quality, both next to Fonte and on the bench. Can't wait for this season and am feeling rather optimistic about the coming campaign. Great post Becks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 7th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croydonsaint Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 7th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 We wont start very well due to squad upheaval, which is understandable really but eventually we will begin grinding out results. It looks like the brand of football that Koeman wants to play IMO wont make us as consistantly competetive as we were under Poch however it will arguably be more exciting with quicker transitions. We will take a few beatings I expect but I also expect the odd scalp Think we will finish around 12th or 13th. Potentially a decent cup run in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 http://www.statsbomb.com/2014/08/epl-season-preview-2014-15-southampton/ This preview is excellent, mirrors my thoughts (though I haven't heard of a few of the people he mentions as possible targets). Definitely worth a read Wow someone talking of Berghuis and Ziyech!! Great knowledge there in that article, top read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc1976 Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 4th from bottom. Can't see where the goals will come from, and we look weak at the back. Hopefully the amount of dross in the bottom half will see us stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 I run a football competition at work where part of the deal is to predict where each team will finish. Of the entries in so far, no one has predicted that Saints we'll finish lower than 12th and most have said top ten and that's from fans of all different clubs. Personally, I'm going for 10th. That's because most of them have no idea we've even sold anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 I can see Newcastle, Stoke and Swansea making ground on us and possibly overtaking us. Would I rather be West Ham, Villa, West Brom, Sunderland or one of the promoted clubs? Probably not and I expect us to add a couple more quality players. It seems clear we were prepared to drop around 15 mill on Rojo. So I reckon 10-12th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 14th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 I normally break the league down into sets of five. I think we may drop from the second five into the third, but would be amazed if we are in the bottom five. My sets are: manure, citeh, arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool; spuds, everton, stoke, toon and us; west ham, hull, Swansea, qpr and palace; west brom, villa, burnley, Leicester and Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 There are in reality three separate mini-leagues in The Prem. The top five, and just possibly Spurs and Everton fighting for Europe, then seven or eight fighting for the middle places, and the relegation league. As long as we're in the middle league this season I don't much mind. If we're being honest then our ambition is normally sixth to tenth. To break into the top league would require huge ambition and investment on the part of the owner and a stadium enlargement, as much as I'd like to see it happen I doubt it will. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPints Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 That's because most of them have no idea we've even sold anyone. With the amount of **** taking I've been subjected to, I'm pretty sure they do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
September Saint Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 14th will do, but anywhere above 18th is OK for such a changed side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Biggest plus is GK department. As long as Boruc stays the situation is excellent, hopefully no more shipping lots of points because our first choice keeper is out. Big Ron should let the two of them battle it out for no 1, both are more than adequate. Strikeforce is thin, a lot rides on Pelle's shoulders. IMO he looks a good player but we won't really know how he reacts to the prem untill the season starts. Tadic and Taider are going to need to chip in with their fair share of goals to support him. I don't think the team will miss Lambert or Lallana as much as many fans think as Lambert was going to be more peripheral (still a legend though) and IMO Tadic will be the equal of Lallana, maybe even slightly better. Defence is weaker, cohesion is going to take time and we have sold some very good players, however as said GK is stronger so that will help soften the blow. Also big Vic was out for big chunks of last season, if he can stay fit then he'll be a big shield for the defence and really help out. Talking of cohesion we've also lost our want-aways (Morgan excepted) and the disruptive influence of Osvaldo so hopefully behind the scenes the morale will pick up quickly with a squad full of players that want to be here. We won't go down but I don't think things will be as exciting as last season. 10-14th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 I think we have one of the best manager's and one of the best squad's we have had in the PL so lets see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 I went for a points total on this thread last season (55) so I was pretty close and that would have got us higher than 8th in a lot of seasons. This season I am going to lower the points total as I think it will take us time to settle, but I am going to go for 45 points, comfortably safe in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldbarbarian Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 10th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Has anyone offered the somewhere between 1st and 20th, inclusive, line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 I went for a points total on this thread last season (55) so I was pretty close and that would have got us higher than 8th in a lot of seasons. This season I am going to lower the points total as I think it will take us time to settle, but I am going to go for 45 points, comfortably safe in the end. Isn't 42 points the de facto limit for being safe, if that is the case then 45 points is not "comfortably safe", that sounds like "having to win the last 2 games to be safe" safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Isn't 42 points the de facto limit for being safe, if that is the case then 45 points is not "comfortably safe", that sounds like "having to win the last 2 games to be safe" safe It depends how bad he thinks the bottom three will be. Burnley are down, surely? That leaves two spaces left - if he thinks there will be two other very bad teams then 45 points could be 10 more points than the bottom three could muster and would be comfortably safe. Right now I don't think anything to do with our season will be comfortable but I sure hope it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Until we know what squad we have its impossible to say, especially as every team will probably make more signings. I would say I am encouraged with the players we have brought in of late, but am also well aware that we still haven't replaced the goals we have lost from the team, haven't accounted for not having Jay for the first 15 or so games at least, and are still weak at centre back - a very key position in the PL. If we sort those then no reason we can't have a good season, but time will tell. However, the pundits suggesting we will be in the bottom three are underestimating us - which probably suits fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 8th again. With one more CB signing which looks almost done and assuming one more striker I don't think we are much worse (if at all) than last year as a squad and don't see anyone that finished below us strengthening sufficiently to think they'll do any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Right now to me we appear to be weaker than last season everywhere except in net. We've got Morgan sulking and Cork seemingly in limbo. Jrod likely out for half the season too. Last season i was confident of a top half finish before kick off, whilst this season that seems a fanciful prospect. My prognosis is that we'll be flirting with relegation zone at times this season but emerge a safe low mid-table,14 etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 11th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Isn't 42 points the de facto limit for being safe, if that is the case then 45 points is not "comfortably safe", that sounds like "having to win the last 2 games to be safe" safe In the last 10 seasons 45 points would have got you anywhere between 11th (last season) and 14th. I am sure most people would feel comfortable with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqbadger Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 18th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc6mufc3 Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 What an awful coupl eof months, manager left, 6 players, loan replacements and now paying over the top for players like Long. I do like him but feel he isn't as good as Rickie and costing three times as much. Remy was £8.5 million so how is Long worth £12 million?? I do hope the new players gel and we have something to shout about but players like Rojo and Caulker seem to have ignored us and it's a pity we couldn't secure somenody of that calibre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 What an awful coupl eof months, manager left, 6 players, loan replacements and now paying over the top for players like Long. I do like him but feel he isn't as good as Rickie and costing three times as much. Remy was £8.5 million so how is Long worth £12 million?? I do hope the new players gel and we have something to shout about but players like Rojo and Caulker seem to have ignored us and it's a pity we couldn't secure somenody of that calibre. I wish people would stop quoting the Remy fee, it's a pointless comparison. If we wanted Remy, he would cost £15-16m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 I wish people would stop quoting the Remy fee, it's a pointless comparison. If we wanted Remy, he would cost £15-16m And he wouldn't want to come here anyway, he has aspirations of better things, that and we wouldn't pay him enough.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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