Big Bad Bob Posted 9 August, 2014 Posted 9 August, 2014 But of course the people using this puerile insult don't use it in that context. Why would they infer that somebody was a mongrel when they can really insult somebody and cause massive offence to the parents of Down's sydrome children at the same time? Doesn't bother me one jot and I have twin daughters with Downs.
Convict Colony Posted 9 August, 2014 Posted 9 August, 2014 Doesn't bother me one jot and I have twin daughters with Downs. Respect Bob
Gambol2K9 Posted 9 August, 2014 Posted 9 August, 2014 Thoroughly agree with you. I'm sure the majority don't realise the true meaning of the word. The word itself isn't offensive, only the meaning you place behind it and the intent of the person using it.
hypochondriac Posted 9 August, 2014 Posted 9 August, 2014 Doesn't bother me one jot and I have twin daughters with Downs. Fair play bob. Puts the mock offence from others into context.
Cascadia Saint Posted 9 August, 2014 Posted 9 August, 2014 Feel free to flick the bean in celebration you pointless waste of skin. Devastatingly charming. I imagine you are a hit with the ladies...
Lazlo78 Posted 9 August, 2014 Posted 9 August, 2014 The appeal was ignored so the new strategy is to sidetrack the discussion and talk about songs for Gardos. My best bet would be "Guide Us, O Thou Great Jehovah" that has the line: "Let the fiery, cloudy pillar guard us to this holy home." Obviously Gardos is the pillar and St Mary's the holy home. Perfect? Yes, I know...
Wes Tender Posted 9 August, 2014 Posted 9 August, 2014 Fair play bob. Puts the mock offence from others into context. Respect to Bob, but just because it doesn't offend one parent, it is ridiculous to assume that it doesn't offend others.
angelman Posted 9 August, 2014 Posted 9 August, 2014 The use of this word really should be stamped out. An infraction for its use ought to do the trick. But where do you stop? I have a kid with Angelman Syndrome so he would fall under the category of being a "retard" that insult that is so flippantly used by so many these days. To be honest, life throws enough challenges up that you realise what is important and someone calling someone else a retard really doesn't even register on the scale save to show someone's ignorance. Anyway, looking forward to signing another CB.
hypochondriac Posted 9 August, 2014 Posted 9 August, 2014 Respect to Bob, but just because it doesn't offend one parent, it is ridiculous to assume that it doesn't offend others. Most things have the potential to offend someone. The key is the context in which something is said.
Saint_Tony Posted 9 August, 2014 Posted 9 August, 2014 You'd think if we really want him and he has supposedly passed a medical, that this could be tied up in the next couple of days. Rojo is clearly a no go so Gardos might be our only option. A Romanian I work with thinks he is good enough to play for a top four side, sounds promising
smithy Posted 9 August, 2014 Posted 9 August, 2014 Most things have the potential to offend someone. The key is the context in which something is said. And some people are over sensitive and are PC warriors. Personally I'm in between, I feel that makes me normal, which I'm comfortable with.
hypochondriac Posted 9 August, 2014 Posted 9 August, 2014 And some people are over sensitive and are PC warriors. Personally I'm in between, I feel that makes me normal, which I'm comfortable with. Indeed they are. I agree with you.
Sanjay Sanchez Posted 9 August, 2014 Posted 9 August, 2014 FLORIN GARDOS FOR THE SAKE OF ****! Hope we sign him.
ART Posted 9 August, 2014 Posted 9 August, 2014 There was a guy seated behind Koeman whom I thought looked a little like Gardos
Viking Warrior Posted 9 August, 2014 Posted 9 August, 2014 RK Does he think he's at the beach not wearing socks , is it cool or uncool
smithy Posted 9 August, 2014 Posted 9 August, 2014 Indeed they are. I agree with you. That makes us normal then, I think. Can't be doing with all of this jumping on every comment to find a racist/xenophobic slant. It's getting boring.
kpturner Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 There was a guy seated behind Koeman whom I thought looked a little like GardosWell he is male I think - that is about it.
Convict Colony Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 There was a guy seated behind Koeman whom I thought looked a little like Gardos Is dave watson wearing headphones and watching his iPad ? must be catching up on True Detective
St Chalet Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 RK Does he think he's at the beach not wearing socks , is it cool or uncool I didn't wear socks yesterday, therefore it is officially uncool.
simo Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 Bearsy Do you have permission to use your title ? I see some. Lawyers representing a company who are linked to Bear Grylls have asked a knife manufacturer to change its name because it features the name Bear blades . The owner has agreed. To this as they do not have the inclination or energy to challenge faceless lawyers Meanwhile has Florin been announced The owner has contacted bear who is personally looking into it for them
Granadino Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 Article here: http://www.fanatik.ro/gardos-10-275123 Suggests £6M fee, Steaua to give an answer today. It sounds like they are ok with the fee but not so keen on releasing him immediately with a CL qualifier coming up. Though it does seem a problem on agreeing a sell-on clause - Saints offering 2% - SB want 10-15%.
dubai_phil Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 Article here: http://www.fanatik.ro/gardos-10-275123 Suggests £6M fee, Steaua to give an answer today. It sounds like they are ok with the fee but not so keen on releasing him immediately with a CL qualifier coming up. Though it does seem a problem on agreeing a sell-on clause - Saints offering 2% - SB want 10-15%. Can't we just agree to play them in a friendly in Bucharest one week when there is an International Break? Preferably when it is hissing with rain and cold? Would LOVE another trip back there it was massive!
Goatboy Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 The word itself isn't offensive, only the meaning you place behind it and the intent of the person using it. True. Meaning is a slippery weasel.
Toon Saint Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 Article here: http://www.fanatik.ro/gardos-10-275123 Suggests £6M fee, Steaua to give an answer today. It sounds like they are ok with the fee but not so keen on releasing him immediately with a CL qualifier coming up. Though it does seem a problem on agreeing a sell-on clause - Saints offering 2% - SB want 10-15%. Good spot that, cheers. Can I ask, what Smiths single is that in your avatar? I do not recognise.
InvictaSaint Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 Good spot that, cheers. Can I ask, what Smiths single is that in your avatar? I do not recognise. Can't quite tell but to my eye it looks either like 'Shoplifters of the world unite' or 'let there be bombs' but I really can't tell for certain.
CB Fry Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 Can't quite tell but to my eye it looks either like 'Shoplifters of the world unite' or 'let there be bombs' but I really can't tell for certain. Not either of them (guess you mean Louder than Bombs). Not sure what it is, but it's not any major single/album release. Intrigued!
InvictaSaint Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 Not either of them (guess you mean Louder than Bombs). Not sure what it is, but it's not any major single/album release. Intrigued! Haha! Yes - sorry, "louder than bombs"! The perils of using an iphone!
Toon Saint Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 Can't quite tell but to my eye it looks either like 'Shoplifters of the world unite' or 'let there be bombs' but I really can't tell for certain. Shoplifters was Elvis and Louder than Bombs was Shelagh Delaney (who wrote 'A Taste of Honey' that Hand in Glove rips a lot of the lyrics from). Never seen the one above before, so guessing it might be part of some re-packaged anthology released in the States or something.
CB Fry Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 Shoplifters was Elvis and Louder than Bombs was Shelagh Delaney (who wrote 'A Taste of Honey' that Hand in Glove rips a lot of the lyrics from). Never seen the one above before, so guessing it might be part of some re-packaged anthology released in the States or something. ....A Taste of Honey provided plenty of lines for "This Night Has Opened My Eyes", too. Our Jay Rod might know the answer to where that sleeve is from, of course.
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 (edited) ....A Taste of Honey provided plenty of lines for "This Night Has Opened My Eyes", too. Our Jay Rod might know the answer to where that sleeve is from, of course. You can do a "search Google for this image". Looks like an audio bootleg Edited 10 August, 2014 by Golac's Cunning Stunts
Big Bad Bob Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 You can do a "search Google for this image". Looks like an audio bootleg
Toon Saint Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 ....A Taste of Honey provided plenty of lines for "This Night Has Opened My Eyes", too. Indeed, and 'Reel around the Fountain' too - a personal favourite. Bootleg it is then. Case solved!
buctootim Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 Article here: http://www.fanatik.ro/gardos-10-275123 Suggests £6M fee, Steaua to give an answer today. It sounds like they are ok with the fee but not so keen on releasing him immediately with a CL qualifier coming up. Though it does seem a problem on agreeing a sell-on clause - Saints offering 2% - SB want 10-15%. I love the baffling translation of that story, especially "Adam Lallana was bought by cormorants".
Lazlo78 Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 Interesting as the discussion is, maybe this thread could be reserved for info and discussion about Florin Gardos? Thanks
patred44 Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dolce-sport.ro%2Ffotbal%2Ffotbal-intern%2Fgardos-este-ca-si-transferat-in-anglia-a-facut-vizita-medicala-la-southampton-37997%2F&edit-text=
angelman Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dolce-sport.ro%2Ffotbal%2Ffotbal-intern%2Fgardos-este-ca-si-transferat-in-anglia-a-facut-vizita-medicala-la-southampton-37997%2F&edit-text= Well that's very clear. Sounds like it's a done deal, but who knows with that level of translation!
sadoldgit Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 I love the baffling translation of that story, especially "Adam Lallana was bought by cormorants". Perhaps they were thinking of Adam the Llama?
VectisSaint Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 I love the baffling translation of that story, especially "Adam Lallana was bought by cormorants". cormorants = liver birds. "The liver bird is normally represented in the form of a cormorant holding a frond in its mouth"
Saint Charlie Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 There's another article on that site where the Bucharest Chairman confirms he is going and says he is more suited to the PL than Chiriches, has a better physique than him in addition to the technical ability. He isn't going to play in their upcoming European qualifier.
FarehamRed Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 There's another article on that site where the Bucharest Chairman confirms he is going and says he is more suited to the PL than Chiriches, has a better physique than him in addition to the technical ability. He isn't going to play in their upcoming European qualifier. I guess we can expect an announcement around 10pm then?
leeham_69 Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 well I certainly didn't expect to be posting this on a Saintsweb forum but for what it's worth "a taste of honey" also provided the line "it's my life to ruin my own way" on Morrissey's Maladjusted single, Alma Matters... although strictly speaking the line in the play was "wreck", not "ruin"... I'm doing Modern Drama as one of my subjects in my final year at uni, and I think for the first time in my life I have combined my studies, my love of Saints and my taste in music in a single post! PS I bumped into Les Reed in the Men's Room at St Mary's and he reckons Gardos is a huge Smiths fan, and that's part of the reason he wants to come to the UK PPS Not really
buctootim Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 cormorants = liver birds. "The liver bird is normally represented in the form of a cormorant holding a frond in its mouth" Ah, thanks for that. Makes sense.
buctootim Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 There's another article on that site where the Bucharest Chairman confirms he is going and says he is more suited to the PL than Chiriches, has a better physique than him in addition to the technical ability. He isn't going to play in their upcoming European qualifier. The translation from the earlier link was that their Chairman wanted Gardos to play in their CL qualifier and wanted a 25% sell on clause. Saints had offered 2% (!) sell on, wanted Gardos now and had given their Chairman until today to make a decision.
sambosa75 Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 Has Morrissey signed for us? Jesus. I bloody hope not.
Toon Saint Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 Jesus. I bloody hope not. Related to Robbie Keane isn't he? Might have a goal in him and can't be worse than Mayuka. Jay Rod might sign that contract as well...
Goatboy Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 Related to Robbie Keane isn't he? Might have a goal in him and can't be worse than Mayuka. Jay Rod might sign that contract as well... Can just see the whole of the Northam waving gladioli as Mozza buries one in the far corner.
Toon Saint Posted 10 August, 2014 Posted 10 August, 2014 Can just see the whole of the Northam waving gladioli as Mozza buries one in the far corner. After top-scoring in his debut season for Saints, international recognition beckoned:
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