Matthew Le God Posted 8 August, 2014 Author Posted 8 August, 2014 3pm I assume? The countdown suggests 3pm, but one of the media staff has said... Tom Coull @TomC_SFCMedia 3m Watch Ronald Koeman's press conference live on YouTube from **APPROXIMATELY** 3.15pm It normally starts later than planned.
hypochondriac Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Morgan not playing Saturday. Mentally and physically not right.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Morgan not playing Saturday. Mentally and physically not right. It doesn't sound too positive.
Saints foreva Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Morgan not playing Saturday. Mentally and physically not right. Bull****. He's off.
hypochondriac Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 It doesn't sound too positive. Didn't sound like we have any intention of letting him leave though so he has a choice really.
Window Cleaner Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Morgan not playing Saturday. Mentally and physically not right. Couldn't even see him on the video that goes with the Ryan Bertrand interview, maybe he's on "special training" with the U12s or something.
hypochondriac Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Bull****. He's off. Didn't sound like we will let him leave.
Greenridge Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 'Mentally' being the key word. Au revoir Morgan.
Saint Charlie Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Schneiderlin is clearly going to leave. If he hasn't calmed down by now its unliekly he suddenly will. More about the club showing some balls which they have, but ultimately if we get a big offer he will go because he wants to, and thats what happens.
stevegrant Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Amused that Koeman said "I don't want to talk about individuals who we may want to sign" before agreeing that both Gardos and Rios are players we're interested in
mcbendy Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Koeman looked bordering on furious in that presser. Did you see his body language? Hard to know if it's the lack of signings, Morgan's tantrum or something else. Worried though...
GarrettIvo Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Koeman was pretty adamant about him going nowhere and being wanted. It's one thing for the Chairman to say it and make his position tricky, but there's no way the manager is going to stick his neck out on that point I reckon. Morgan stays until January. Thought Jose was very diplomatic about it as well. Didn't throw MS under the bus and said the team would do all it can to keep him welcome.
NewYorkSaint Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 I'd argue it's in the club's interest to keep him for now, even if he never plays a match. Absolute statements have been made. For Kruger and the club's credibility they have to show that no means no. If they do, my guess is that MS won't play first few games, but will eventually come round. It's not in his professional interest to sulk all year either. I thought Jose was impressive in what he said about Morgan. Don't give up yet. If they do capitulate, it really does put a big black mark on Kruger's credibility, even if it seems to make short term sense.
Batman Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Is it over. Anyone want to give us the bullet points?
Saints foreva Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Didn't sound like we will let him leave. Deadline day, once we've got all our ins we will confirm we've sold him imo.
Saint Charlie Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Koeman looked bordering on furious in that presser. Did you see his body language? Hard to know if it's the lack of signings, Morgan's tantrum or something else. Worried though... I would be furious if Hooiveld was one injury away from playing PL football. In fact, I am furious about it.
stevegrant Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Schneiderlin is clearly going to leave. If he hasn't calmed down by now its unliekly he suddenly will. More about the club showing some balls which they have, but ultimately if we get a big offer he will go because he wants to, and thats what happens. By all accounts, Spurs have only offered £10m for him so far, so as long as that situation keeps up, he's going nowhere. If (and it's a big if, considering this is Daniel "last day of the window" Levy we're dealing with) Spurs double the offer (at least) then we may have to reconsider, but we're not at that stage yet.
JoeShmoe Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Schniederlin has gone on strike, dress it up how you want Stick him in the reserves until he plays but if we cave in to this **** we may as well give up
Saint Charlie Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Deadline day, once we've got all our ins we will confirm we've sold him imo. Koeman's comments live seemed to suggest he was pretty angry with Morgan. What does it say if for example JWP has worked really hard all pre season then gets replaced next Saturday by someone who has been showing an awful attitude and doesn't want to play for the club? Quite clearly Schneiderlin won't play at Anfield, and I would say its far, far more likey that not that he won't play for us again at all.
SaintRobbie Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Morgan not playing Saturday. Mentally and physically not right. He will never play for Saints again, it's been painfully obvious for a couple of weeks. If Koeman has been unable to turn his mind, what hope is there? Krueger?! Can't put a glass half full on Scheiderlin I'm afraid, he's burnt his bridges. Jay Rod next player to 'strike' ?? Bit tricky when you're broken, but until he renews his contract it would seem he's the next to join the exodus. Too little steel too late. Oh well, at least we have another Centre Back!! yipppeeeee!
CB Saint Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Well the longer is stays mentally and physically unfit, the less chance he has of being selected for France. My prediction in this game of bluff, Morgan blinks first (assuming we don't sell him)
Toon Saint Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Schneiderlin is clearly going to leave. If he hasn't calmed down by now its unliekly he suddenly will. More about the club showing some balls which they have, but ultimately if we get a big offer he will go because he wants to, and thats what happens. Don't think it is as simple as that. Ralph's credibility rests on keeping him, and he has been pretty categorical on the issue. Might see a similar situation with Modric at Spurs. He starts the season a bit miffed, maybe missing the first game or two with 'his head not being in the right place', but once the transfer window closes he knuckles down, with a broad agreement that should we get once more decent season out of him, he is free to go.
Greenridge Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Amused that Koeman said "I don't want to talk about individuals who we may want to sign" before agreeing that both Gardos and Rios are players we're interested in I missed the Rios part. Position / current club?
Plastic Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 He will never play for Saints again, it's been painfully obvious for a couple of weeks. If Koeman has been unable to turn his mind, what hope is there? Krueger?! Can't put a glass half full on Scheiderlin I'm afraid, he's burnt his bridges. Jay Rod next player to 'strike' ?? Bit tricky when you're broken, but until he renews his contract it would seem he's the next to join the exodus. Too little steel too late. Oh well, at least we have another Centre Back!! yipppeeeee! Those that don't want to be here can **** off, but for the price we set (and hopefully no-one to spurs).
buctootim Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Koeman's comments live seemed to suggest he was pretty angry with Morgan. What does it say if for example JWP has worked really hard all pre season then gets replaced next Saturday by someone who has been showing an awful attitude and doesn't want to play for the club? Quite clearly Schneiderlin won't play at Anfield, and I would say its far, far more likey that not that he won't play for us again at all. Spurs have remained very confident of signing him all through. No doubt they've agreed this strategy with Schneiderlin and it stinks. We shouldnt let him go unless the offer is stonking and Spurs pay top price.
stevegrant Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 I missed the Rios part. Position / current club? Rojo, sorry, not sure why I wrote that
SaintRobbie Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Rojo, sorry, not sure why I wrote that Phew! I was wondering who Rios was!!
Greenridge Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Rojo, sorry, not sure why I wrote that Ah ok, no worries.
monosaint Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 MS is in danger of ending up in the reserves. If Lovren is worth £20 million then so is Morgan. Spurs won't pay that so they can go away. All clubs will have several options so Spurs will end up looking elsewhere. I hope he's smart enough to get it.
SaintRobbie Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Has Fonte signed a new deal?? Yes - 3 more years. He's now seemingly one of our finest players.
Grey Crab Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Seriously, how can footballers actually go on strike? There are no grounds for industrial action. He is under contract and hasn't been mistreated. There are no changes to the terms of his employment, surely? It's about time a club took a player to court for breaking the terms of their contract.
Badger Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Spurs have remained very confident of signing him all through. No doubt they've agreed this strategy with Schneiderlin and it stinks. We shouldnt let him go unless the offer is stonking and Spurs pay top price. I'd suggest: We shouldnt let him go unless the offer is stonking and someone other than Spurs pay top price
SaintRobbie Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 By all accounts, Spurs have only offered £10m for him so far, so as long as that situation keeps up, he's going nowhere. If (and it's a big if, considering this is Daniel "last day of the window" Levy we're dealing with) Spurs double the offer (at least) then we may have to reconsider, but we're not at that stage yet. £10m?! Blimey, MoPo must have placed a lot of sweetly mice in his head to encourage him to 'strike' for that!
Goatboy Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Yes - 3 more years. He's now seemingly one of our finest players. He has shown some loyalty and faith in the club's future. That's good enough for me.
Window Cleaner Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 £10m?! Blimey, MoPo must have placed a lot of sweetly mice in his head to encourage him to 'strike' for that! 10 million + Holtby and Chiriches or so I hear, we want folding though, lots of it.
pangy Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Morgan is worth more than anyone we sold including Shaw imo Spurs won't want to deal with us if we are putting huge prices on players we actually want to keep,Levy is known to be a tight arse when it comes to transfers. Disappointed in Morgan imo,never thought he would do this and always thought he would be more professional,however actions from previous players and there behaviour has made him react like this
Plastic Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Rojo, sorry, not sure why I wrote that You've done it now! It's all over twitter that we've signed the river plate wonderkid Rios for 10mil Medical tomorrow apparently...
SaintRobbie Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 10 million + Holtby and Chiriches or so I hear, we want folding though, lots of it. That makes a little more sense, but why would we want either Holtby or Chiriches?
Window Cleaner Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 (edited) Morgan is worth more than anyone we sold including Shaw imo Spurs won't want to deal with us if we are putting huge prices on players we actually want to keep,Levy is known to be a tight arse when it comes to transfers. Disappointed in Morgan imo,never thought he would do this and always thought he would be more professional,however actions from previous players and there behaviour has made him react like this Was he not told he could leave if the club received suitable compensation, I think he was, several seemingly reliable sources have said that. In his mind he was being allowed to leave for one of the 2 North London clubs, highest bidder. Then Ralph wet his knickers and gated him, he's firking ****ed off and rightly so. Edited 8 August, 2014 by Window Cleaner
Window Cleaner Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 That makes a little more sense, but why would we want either Holtby or Chiriches? That I couldn't say, it was like that to start with, then Chadli got involved somewhere but he didn't want to play for us, saw it as a step down I expect. Now they'll offer cash only, about 21 million £, take it or leave it I expect.
stevegrant Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Was he not told he could leave if the club received suitable compoensation, I think he was, several seemingly reliable sources have said that. In his mind he was being allowed to leave for one of the 2 North London clubs, highest bidder. Then Ralph wet his knickers and gated him, he's firking ****ed off and rightly so. The bit I've highlighted is the important part for me. At this stage, the club hasn't received an offer that comes remotely close to his value.
CB Saint Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Was he not told he could leave if the club received suitable compoensation, I think he was, several seemingly reliable sources have said that. In his mind he was being allowed to leave for one of the 2 North London clubs, highest bidder. Then Ralph wet his knickers and gated him, he's firking ****ed off and rightly so. This bit is key - apparently neither have come up with a "suitable" figure.
Badger Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 That I couldn't say, it was like that to start with, then Chadli got involved somewhere but he didn't want to play for us, saw it as a step down I expect. Now they'll offer cash only, about 21 million £, take it or leave it I expect. Hopefully, we'll "leave it".
SaintRobbie Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Disappointed in Morgan imo,never thought he would do this and always thought he would be more professional,however actions from previous players and there behaviour has made him react like this Me too. I think you have to add MoPo's influence into his state of mind too though. Only way he seems to be able to afford him is if he keeps him sulking.
SaintRichmond Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Morgan not playing Saturday. Mentally and physically not right. What an absolute surprise More Bullsh*t from SFC Musn't get him injured, thus preventing his transfer, more like And still thousands believe he'll be in a Saints shirt again
Window Cleaner Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 The bit I've highlighted is the important part for me. At this stage, the club hasn't received an offer that comes remotely close to his value. Perhaps, but I doubt the highest offer has amounted to 10 million £ in total, there are so many variants available.
Saint_Ash Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Was he not told he could leave if the club received suitable compensation, I think he was, several seemingly reliable sources have said that. In his mind he was being allowed to leave for one of the 2 North London clubs, highest bidder. Then Ralph wet his knickers and gated him, he's firking ****ed off and rightly so. Not rightly so, in your own post you state if the club received suitable compensation, we obviously haven't received that yet so hence Morgan is going no where, shall we just let him go for pittence because he started whinging and being a d1ck? No, we wait until we receive what the club believes to be his worth like all of the players that have left.
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