Batman Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 Seems the logical choice to me been here for nearly 5 years in talks to extend his contract good player good age surely he is in with a good shout and would be a good skipper IMO
david in sweden Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 why not ?....either him, or Steven Davis.
Matthew Le God Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 If the plan is to bring both Rojo and van Dijk in, then Fonte may be 3rd choice centre back.
Batman Posted 7 August, 2014 Author Posted 7 August, 2014 If the plan is to bring both Rojo and van Dijk in, then Fonte may be 3rd choice centre back. if that is even then plan at all
farawaysaint Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 I like Fonte as skipper, I don't think we'll bring in two CBs.
Matthew Le God Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 If the plan is to bring both Rojo and van Dijk in, then Fonte may be 3rd choice centre back. if that is even then plan at all Thats why I said "if". If we did have Rojo, van Dijk, Fonte and Yoshida as centre backs then that is probably stronger than last season. We'd also have more depth in goal if Forster joins and Boruc stays.
Batman Posted 7 August, 2014 Author Posted 7 August, 2014 Thats why I said "if". If we did have Rojo, van Dijk, Fonte and Yoshida as centre backs then that is probably stronger than last season. We'd also have more depth in goal if Forster joins and Boruc stays. its like saying if you were blind would you rather be deaf.
Pwoite Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 Neither Fonte nor Davis will be guaranteed starters if we get in Rojo and Van Dijk, with the midfielders already signed, so neither is an ideal captain. Morgan would be a far better choice, but his recent behaviour rather rules that out. Who else is guaranteed a start? Neither Clyne nor Wanyama strike me as natural leaders. Who else speaks good enough English to do the job?
Batman Posted 7 August, 2014 Author Posted 7 August, 2014 Neither Fonte nor Davis will be guaranteed starters if we get in Rojo and Van Dijk, with the midfielders already signed, so neither is an ideal captain. Morgan would be a far better choice, but his recent behaviour rather rules that out. Who else is guaranteed a start? Neither Clyne nor Wanyama strike me as natural leaders. Who else speaks good enough English to do the job? what if we dont. lets deal with the here and now.
The9 Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 what if we dont. lets deal with the here and now. Why? We don't need to confirm a captain before the teams walk out for our first match, and it doesn't even have to be a fixed position. It makes sense for the captain to be on the pitch, and we already have Kelvin as "Club Captain" as opposed to "Team Captain" in the figurehead role, so we can't have another one of those anyway. So let's deal with it when it needs to be dealt with. In a week's time, when some of the recruitment questions being answered may also have changed this answer.
Batman Posted 7 August, 2014 Author Posted 7 August, 2014 Why? We don't need to confirm a captain before the teams walk out for our first match, and it doesn't even have to be a fixed position. It makes sense for the captain to be on the pitch, and we already have Kelvin as "Club Captain" as opposed to "Team Captain" in the figurehead role, so we can't have another one of those anyway. So let's deal with it when it needs to be dealt with. In a week's time, when some of the recruitment questions being answered may also have changed this answer. Ok, fair points I was suggesting this on the very likely chance that we wont sign two CBs that will be in the rojo/VVD standard. anyway, lock this thread
Bearsy Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 If the plan is to bring both Rojo and van Dijk in, then Fonte may be 3rd choice centre back. I think I read Rojo is a left back MLG. What are your thoughts on that pls?
Plastic Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 what if we dont. lets deal with the here and now. Here and now? Fonte as captain. Would have been MS, but that tweet (which is still up) has soured it.
Matthew Le God Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 I think I read Rojo is a left back MLG. What are your thoughts on that pls? I think...
Saint IQ Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 Neither Fonte nor Davis will be guaranteed starters if we get in Rojo and Van Dijk, with the midfielders already signed, so neither is an ideal captain. Morgan would be a far better choice, but his recent behaviour rather rules that out. Who else is guaranteed a start? Neither Clyne nor Wanyama strike me as natural leaders. Who else speaks good enough English to do the job? Think Davis has a good chance of starting, if he doesn't so be it another player will have the armband if he isn't selected but his experience of being Rangers and NI captain and his consistant good performances means he's ideal for the Role
VectisSaint Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 Neither Fonte nor Davis will be guaranteed starters if we get in Rojo and Van Dijk, with the midfielders already signed, so neither is an ideal captain. Morgan would be a far better choice, but his recent behaviour rather rules that out. Who else is guaranteed a start? Neither Clyne nor Wanyama strike me as natural leaders. Who else speaks good enough English to do the job? Wanyama is captain of his country. Good English is not an issue, after all Lallana was captain. For me its between Fonte, Davis and Morgan.
The9 Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 I'll be surprised if Steven Davis isn't in with a shout (of both starting and captain), he was one of our most effective creators last season and has excellent workrate too, it'll be some player (or some formation) who keeps him out of the side.
CWD Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 I'll be surprised if Steven Davis isn't in with a shout (of both starting and captain), he was one of our most effective creators last season and has excellent workrate too, it'll be some player (or some formation) who keeps him out of the side. Absolutely. I'm still surprised at how many people leave him out of their preferred starting 11.
Saints67 Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 Morgan for me. Think they're going to have after saying (something along the lines of) they want to build the team around him.
sadoldgit Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 Morgan or Steve Davis. With any luck Jose will be third choice CB this season.
Restark19 Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 Fonte's captained the side in all pre season games so far if I remember rightly, be surprised if it wasn't him tbh
doddisalegend Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 If the plan is to bring both Rojo and van Dijk in, then Fonte may be 3rd choice centre back. Is Van dijk even that good? why would we make Jose who has two years of PL experince and played very well last year third choice behind a guy from celtic.
Window Cleaner Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 Is Van dijk even that good? why would we make Jose who has two years of PL experince and played very well last year third choice behind a guy from celtic. Who knows what Van Dijk would offer in the PL. Still think we need 2 new CBs and I don't overate our chances of signing Rojo. He's just waiting around to see what offers he gets, once the fee required has been established then other clubs will probably jump into the fray for him.
Restark19 Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 (edited) If we were to sign both Rojo and Van Dijk (don't think we will) could it be with a view to playing something like this? Not sure where Tadic fits in though.. ----------Boruc ---VVD-- Fonte-- Rojo Clyne-------------- Bertrand ----------Wanyama Schneiderlin-----Taider ----------Davis ----------Pelle Clyne and Bertand as wing backs pushing on to provide width Edited 7 August, 2014 by Restark19
kpturner Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 If we were to sign both Rojo and Van Dijk (don't think we will) could it be with a view to playing something like this? Not sure where Tadic fits in though.. ----------Boruc ---VVD-- Fonte-- Rojo Clyne-------------- Bertrand ----------Wanyama Schneiderlin-----Taider ----------Davis ----------Pelle Clyne and Bertand as wing backs pushing on to provide widthTadic will surely be ahead of Taider - no?
Andy Durman Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 Fonte is commanding and will be captain unless Schneiderlin wishes to stay and play champions league football with us next year
bazza Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 I think Koeman's already mentioned that Fonte's likely to be captain with Davis as vice-captain. That would be my choice too.
ratio_decidendi Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 I think Koeman's already mentioned that Fonte's likely to be captain with Davis as vice-captain. That would be my choice too. Agreed. In terms of professionalism, both are outstanding role models for their teammates. I think Fonte has the edge (will probably start more games than Davis) and I'd be more than happy with that decision. The only other person I can envisage as having a shot is Wanyama but it might be too early for him at this stage and it depends on how he sees his long term future at the club developing. Morgan: absolutely not. He won't be gone this summer but his Twitter reaction can never be regarded as captain-like behaviour. If it wasn't for that, he might be seen as a shoe-in.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 Wanyama is captain of his country. Good English is not an issue, after all Lallana was captain. For me its between Fonte, Davis and Morgan. [video=youtube_share;jTTTuV_yI0o] This was two years ago nearly. His English wasn't exactly 'poor' then. Can't imagine it would have backwards since. Anyway, if Fonte is in the team I'd happily have him as captain. S. Davis is a fine choice also.
Marino Posted 7 August, 2014 Posted 7 August, 2014 JWP ? Coming out of left field perhaps but already skipper of the England kids and he looks like a natural leader.
Batman Posted 8 August, 2014 Author Posted 8 August, 2014 If the plan is to bring both Rojo and van Dijk in, then Fonte may be 3rd choice centre back. Is this still the plan?
VectisSaint Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 [video=youtube_share;jTTTuV_yI0o] This was two years ago nearly. His English wasn't exactly 'poor' then. Can't imagine it would have backwards since. . Vic's English wasn't an issue, go back and read my response and the post it was referring to. The OP was concerned about who had good English, I said it didn't matter after all Lallana was captain. It was meant to be a funny.
SaintRobbie Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Steven Davies is the most logical choice for me. He's one professional player, gives everything and has history as Rangers captain. What's more he's kept quiet and loyal all summer. He's a better player than Fonte for me, so would be leading by example on the pitch.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 8 August, 2014 Posted 8 August, 2014 Vic's English wasn't an issue, go back and read my response and the post it was referring to. The OP was concerned about who had good English, I said it didn't matter after all Lallana was captain. It was meant to be a funny. It wasn't a dig at all. Just that Vic's English isn't all that bad anyway.
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