Chicken With A Banjo Posted 7 August, 2014 Share Posted 7 August, 2014 In most places I have worked and outside of my closest group of friends and family, I find that it is awkward to discuss income. It's just not the done thing. I know that there are websites out there specialising in this kind of thing e.g glassfloor but I've found that these all have flaws. I thought it might be interesting thanks to the relative anonymity of this website to see how the experiences on here compare to the mainstream perceptions. I feel like (and statistics tell me) that I earn a good solid salary but judging by the cars people drive, the clothes people wear and the houses they live in I sometimes wonder whether something fishy is going on. Do people get paid more then I think, are they on the fiddle, are they massively in debt or is it just a symptom of the way that property and inheritance has become the key determinant of wealth nowadays with salary becoming a marginal contributor. So if you don't mind maybe you could provide your own data below: Job: Industry: Approx Annual salary before tax without bonus: Typical bonus: Approx take home after tax: Approximate location: Years of working experience directly relevant to your job: Level of education: Additional job perks e.g. company car/shares: Typical hours worked per week: Many Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 7 August, 2014 Share Posted 7 August, 2014 Never discuss salary even with closest friends. Ball park maybe, but that's it. There was a good programme John Snow presented a couple of years back that broke down average wages by industry. Something along the lines of "breaking the last taboo"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 7 August, 2014 Share Posted 7 August, 2014 (edited) Think it's best not to worry about salaries, particularly comparing them with others. It never ends well. People think they're worth more than they're getting, or should have more than someone else they happen to think is shít. I will say that there are very few opportunities to make a huge wedge when employed by someone else. You're there to make them money, unfortunately. Sure, you can become a high-powered exec and comfortably command a £100K salary, but that's at the cost of being utterly accountable (and expendable) if and when shít hits the fan. Some become such political animals they lose quite a bit of themselves on the journey. If you can meet your responsibilities, build a bit for the future and have fun while doing it, you're doing well, I reckon. Edited 7 August, 2014 by pap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 7 August, 2014 Share Posted 7 August, 2014 I know people on £100k+ who seem to have a jolly old time. Skandia, RBS, and other financial "bonus" based, rip off companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 7 August, 2014 Share Posted 7 August, 2014 Don't worry about what others earn - it will only eat you up. I have found that no matter how much I've earnt, there is always someone considerably richer that you. You can get so caught up that you forget to appreciate what you have. Listen to the Sunscreen song (lyrics below) Ladies and Gentlemen of the class of '97, Wear sunscreen If I could offer you only one tip for the future, sunscreen would be it. The long-term benefits of sunscreen have been proved by scientists, whereas the rest of my advice has no basis more reliable than my own meandering experience. I will dispense this advice now. Enjoy the power and beauty of your youth, oh never mind, you will never understand the power and the beauty of your youth until they've faded. But trust me, in twenty years, you will look back at photos of yourself and recall in a way you can't grasp now, how much possibility lay before you and how fabulous you really looked. You are not as fat as you imagine. Don't worry about the future; or worry, but know that worrying is as affective as trying to solve an algebra equation by chewing bubble gum. The real troubles in your life are apt to be things that never crossed your worried mind. The kind that blindsides you at 4 PM on some idle Tuesday. Do one thing every day that scares you. Sing. Don't be reckless with other peoples' hearts; don't put up with people who are reckless with yours. Floss. Don't waste your time on jealously, sometimes you're ahead, sometimes you're behind. The race is long and in the end, it's only with yourself. Remember compliments you receive, forget the insults. If you succeed in doing this, tell me how. Keep your old love letters; throw away your old bank statements. Stretch. Don't feel guilty if you don't know what to do with your life. The most interesting people I know didn't know at 22 what they wanted to do with their lives, some of the most interesting 40-year-olds I know still don't. Get plenty of calcium. Be kind to knees, you'll miss them when they're gone. Maybe you'll marry, maybe you won't. Maybe you'll have children, maybe you won't. Maybe you'll divorce at 40, maybe you'll dance the "Funky Chicken" on your 75th wedding anniversary. Whatever you do, don't congratulate yourself too much or berate yourself either. Your choices are half chance, so are everybody else's. Enjoy your body. Use it every way you can, don't be afraid of it or what other people think of it. It's the greatest instrument you'll ever own. Dance. Even if you have nowhere to do it but your own living room. Read the directions even if you don't follow them. Do not read beauty magazines, they will only make you feel ugly. Get to know your parents. You never know when they'll be gone for good. Be nice to your siblings. They are your best link to your past and the people most likely to stick with you in the future. Understand that friends come and go. But a precious few, who should hold on. Work hard to bridge the gaps in geography and lifestyle, for as the older you get, the more you need the people you knew when you were young. Live in New York City once, but leave before it makes you hard. Live in northern California once, but leave before it makes you soft. Travel. Accept certain alible truths: prices will rise, politicians will philander, you too will get old and when you do, you'll fanaticise that when you were young, prices were reasonable, politicians were noble and children respected their elders. Respect your elders. Don't expect anyone else to support you. Maybe you have a trust fund, maybe you'll have a wealthy spouse but you'll never know when either one will run out. Don't mess too much with your hair or by the time you're forty, it will look eighty-five. Be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia. Dispensing it is a way of wishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling for more than it's worth. But trust me on the sunscreen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 7 August, 2014 Share Posted 7 August, 2014 (edited) Not a chance that i'm sharing that information. For what it's worth, I find that those who appear to be lavish often are not that flush and are spending amounts that would be considered unsustainable to others. Equally, those who are modest and quite restrained with their money will have more then you actually think. Never mind what others are doing, just be comfortable in your own way. Edited 7 August, 2014 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 August, 2014 Share Posted 7 August, 2014 here you go mate, happy to help and share my success! Job: Printer cartridge telesales executive Industry: Print and consumables Approx Annual salary before tax without bonus: £14,000 Typical bonus: £3500 Approx take home after tax: £1,135 per month Approximate location: North Years of working experience directly relevant to your job: 12 Level of education: high, 3 GCSEs, NVQ Level 2 in travel and tourism, C&G in Sales, First Aider, certificate in manual handling Additional job perks e.g. company car/shares: 25% discount on toner and paper supplied by the company. Free use of the company photocopier Typical hours worked per week: 55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 7 August, 2014 Share Posted 7 August, 2014 here you go mate, happy to help and share my success! Job: Printer cartridge telesales executive Industry: Print and consumables Approx Annual salary before tax without bonus: £14,000 Typical bonus: £3500 Approx take home after tax: £1,135 per month Approximate location: North Years of working experience directly relevant to your job: 12 Level of education: high, 3 GCSEs, NVQ Level 2 in travel and tourism, C&G in Sales, First Aider, certificate in manual handling Additional job perks e.g. company car/shares: 25% discount on toner and paper supplied by the company. Free use of the company photocopier Typical hours worked per week: 55 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 7 August, 2014 Share Posted 7 August, 2014 here you go mate, happy to help and share my success! Job: Printer cartridge telesales executive Industry: Print and consumables Approx Annual salary before tax without bonus: £14,000 Typical bonus: £3500 Approx take home after tax: £1,135 per month Approximate location: North Years of working experience directly relevant to your job: 12 Level of education: high, 3 GCSEs, NVQ Level 2 in travel and tourism, C&G in Sales, First Aider, certificate in manual handling Additional job perks e.g. company car/shares: 25% discount on toner and paper supplied by the company. Free use of the company photocopier Typical hours worked per week: 55 :lol:Top of your game Turkish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 7 August, 2014 Share Posted 7 August, 2014 here you go mate, happy to help and share my success! Job: Printer cartridge telesales executive Industry: Print and consumables Approx Annual salary before tax without bonus: £14,000 Typical bonus: £3500 Approx take home after tax: £1,135 per month Approximate location: North Years of working experience directly relevant to your job: 12 Level of education: high, 3 GCSEs, NVQ Level 2 in travel and tourism, C&G in Sales, First Aider, certificate in manual handling Additional job perks e.g. company car/shares: 25% discount on toner and paper supplied by the company. Free use of the company photocopier Typical hours worked per week: 55 Dealing with píss-takers by doing a better job yourself is the way forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 7 August, 2014 Share Posted 7 August, 2014 Dealing with píss-takers by doing a better job yourself is the way forward. 8-mile theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 7 August, 2014 Share Posted 7 August, 2014 8-mile theory. I've never seen the film; but I did receive a nice letter from Universal Pictures asking me if I would kindly not pirate it, or any of their other films again. The perils of living in a house with people of questionable taste and track-covering ability, but in possession of enough knowledge to grab files from highly watched public torrent sites. Noobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingdomCome Posted 7 August, 2014 Share Posted 7 August, 2014 Job: Selling propane and propane accessories Industry: Retail Approx Annual salary before tax without bonus: $20,000 Typical bonus: Approx take home after tax: Tax? Approximate location: Arlen, Texas Years of working experience directly relevant to your job: 13 years Level of education: Life experience is more important than certificates, I tell you what. Additional job perks e.g. company car/shares: Satisfaction of a job well done. Typical hours worked per week: 30 mins, although I haven't worked since 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 7 August, 2014 Share Posted 7 August, 2014 I'll do one properly for you Caveat - this is my old job that I left three years ago... Job: Pub / Restaurant General Manager Industry: Pubs / Restaurants Approx Annual salary before tax without bonus: £32k Typical bonus: £6-7k Approx take home after tax: £1.6k every four weeks iirc... Approximate location: Netley Years of working experience directly relevant to your job: 18 Level of education: BA(Hons) Additional job perks e.g. company car/shares: Free accommodation - although that has massive downsides as well! Typical hours worked per week: 70-75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 7 August, 2014 Share Posted 7 August, 2014 Job: Graphic Designer Industry: Sports Approx Annual salary before tax without bonus: Not f*cking enough Typical bonus: F*ck all Approx take home after tax: See answer three Approximate location: Southampton Years of working experience directly relevant to your job: 17 Level of education: Degree Additional job perks e.g. company car/shares: a comfy chair Typical hours worked per week: Too many Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 here you go mate, happy to help and share my success! Job: Printer cartridge telesales executive Industry: Print and consumables Approx Annual salary before tax without bonus: £14,000 Typical bonus: £3500 Approx take home after tax: £1,135 per month Approximate location: North Years of working experience directly relevant to your job: 12 Level of education: high, 3 GCSEs, NVQ Level 2 in travel and tourism, C&G in Sales, First Aider, certificate in manual handling Additional job perks e.g. company car/shares: 25% discount on toner and paper supplied by the company. Free use of the company photocopier Typical hours worked per week: 55you're overpaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Job: Selling propane and propane accessories Industry: Retail Approx Annual salary before tax without bonus: $20,000 Typical bonus: Approx take home after tax: Tax? Approximate location: Arlen, Texas Years of working experience directly relevant to your job: 13 years Level of education: Life experience is more important than certificates, I tell you what. Additional job perks e.g. company car/shares: Satisfaction of a job well done. Typical hours worked per week: 30 mins, although I haven't worked since 2010. Shall we grab a beer by the bins ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 here you go mate, happy to help and share my success! Job: Printer cartridge telesales executive Industry: Print and consumables Approx Annual salary before tax without bonus: £14,000 Typical bonus: £3500 Approx take home after tax: £1,135 per month Approximate location: North Years of working experience directly relevant to your job: 12 Level of education: high, 3 GCSEs, NVQ Level 2 in travel and tourism, C&G in Sales, First Aider, certificate in manual handling Additional job perks e.g. company car/shares: 25% discount on toner and paper supplied by the company. Free use of the company photocopier Typical hours worked per week: 55 A little bit underpaid IMHO considering the hours and traveling involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Job: Industry: Property & Art Approx Annual salary before tax without bonus: At least double what I should be paid Typical bonus: none Approx take home after tax: about half of gross Approximate location: Laaandan Years of working experience directly relevant to your job: 0 Level of education: I have an HND, Do they still exist ?? Additional job perks e.g. company car/shares: occasional travel to Tel Aviv Typical hours worked per week: 40ish in office, but because of smart phones , pretty much available for work 24/7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 I wouldn't worry too much about it. Too much empahsis is put on material accumulation and how that relates to personal image and "success". I have a mate who appears to have it all - nice car, nice house, 2 exotic holidays a year, designer gear, the works. Trouble is he juggles a mountain of debt and minimum payments on credit cards every month, so it's bound to come crashing down some day. The car is leased and the house has been remortgaged to pay off debt already, so there's precious little equity. I also had a Client who used to drive a battered old reg Saab but lived in a £3m house in Sussex, had a couple of holiday homes and had plenty of readies. I s'pose the old adage of never judging a book by it's cover is most apt here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 I know people on £100k+ who seem to have a jolly old time. Skandia, RBS, and other financial "bonus" based, rip off companies. Not sure I'd class Skandia anywhere near the RBS types of this world. Always dangerous when those who know nothing about the industry generalise all financial companies as the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 10 August, 2014 Share Posted 10 August, 2014 Not sure I'd class Skandia anywhere near the RBS types of this world. Always dangerous when those who know nothing about the industry generalise all financial companies as the same. Why is it "dangerous?" End of the day they look after everyones money and give themselves a massive slice of it. Insurance companies are another legalised scam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Job: Newsletter Editor Industry: Publishing/Business Intelligence Approx Annual salary before tax without bonus: £17,000 p/a Typical bonus: £0 Approx take home after tax: ~£1200 p/m Approximate location: London, Old Street Years of working experience directly relevant to your job: Been there about 6 months now. Level of education: Graduated from Southampton University with a 2:1 in Philosophy. BBC at A-Levels and 10 GCSEs all A-B. Additional job perks e.g. company car/shares: Nothing Typical hours worked per week: 9-5.30. Hour lunch, two 15 minute breaks Living at home with parents. Soon to hit 24. Sucks but hey, that's our generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Job: Self employed Industry: Archaeology, Art, Graphic design, restoration, writer, artist, etc etc Approx Annual salary before tax without bonus: Varies wildly. Typical bonus: n/a Approx take home after tax: Varies wildly. Approximate location: Here, there and everywhere. Years of working experience directly relevant to your job: All my life after leaving school. Level of education: O/A level. Additional job perks e.g. company car/shares: n/a Typical hours worked per week: Varies wildly. Not work, I've just done things that I wanted to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 In most places I have worked and outside of my closest group of friends and family, I find that it is awkward to discuss income. It's just not the done thing. I know that there are websites out there specialising in this kind of thing e.g glassfloor but I've found that these all have flaws. I thought it might be interesting thanks to the relative anonymity of this website to see how the experiences on here compare to the mainstream perceptions. I feel like (and statistics tell me) that I earn a good solid salary but judging by the cars people drive, the clothes people wear and the houses they live in I sometimes wonder whether something fishy is going on. Do people get paid more then I think, are they on the fiddle, are they massively in debt or is it just a symptom of the way that property and inheritance has become the key determinant of wealth nowadays with salary becoming a marginal contributor. So if you don't mind maybe you could provide your own data below: Cars, clothes, lifestyle ... all available on credit and there are far too many people spending far too much money that isn't actually theirs, then spend a life time paying it back with more credit and hoping that one day a big bonus/lottery win will pay it all off for them. I really wouldn't worry about others. Enjoy life, pay your bills, live within your means and don't borrow - well, except for a mortgage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 I will play.................... A little. Job: Sales - Marketing - Product Development Manager Industry: Housewares - I am a Wooden Spoon salesman. Approx Annual salary before tax without bonus: Not enough for what I do compared to other employees of the company Typical bonus: Commission heavy, which makes me a top end earner in the industry. Approx take home after tax: Mrs JBS pays for nowt and I still have enough left to have frivolous moments. Approximate location: Ampshoire but UK is my domain and a dalliance world wide is sometimes thrust into my lap. Years of working experience directly relevant to your job: 29 years Level of education: CSE's and University of Life Additional job perks e.g. company car/shares: nice car, bosses have property abroad and twice a year we bugger off and play Golf probably totalling 10 days a year. Typical hours worked per week: if you divided my salary by hours worked I am probably sub minimum wage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananaman Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Job: Teacher. Working to a within a primary framework with young people with special educational needs Industry: Education Approx Annual salary before tax without bonus: 27k Typical bonus: None (except for Summer Hols) Approx take home after tax: 2k Approximate location: W. Sussex Level of education: BA Hons (currently studying towards Masters Additional job perks. See 'typical bonus' Typical hours worked per week: 50ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Job: Customer Service Assistant Multi-Functional for LUL Industry: Travel Approx Annual salary before tax without bonus: More than I'm worth. Typical bonus: None, but we just strike for more money. Approx take home after tax: More than my wife, which is why we have separate bank accounts. Approximate location: Within the M25, about 30' below the surface of the earth. Years of working experience directly relevant to your job: 11 but it feels like an eternity. Level of education: A-Levels, but they were cack because I was lazy. I also have an NVQ in competency. Whatever that's worth. Additional job perks e.g. company car/shares: Free London travel for me and my wife, which we rarely use as we don't live in London. Oh, and Too much leave. Typical hours worked per week: 35-37, more if there's overtime available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 Job - Military Operations Industry - armed forces Approx salary - £42k+ Bonuses - depends. Getting a £21k bonus next year Take home - approx £2750 PCM Location - depends. London at the mo Years in job - nearly 15 years Education - college Perks - none to a few Hours - 0 - unlimited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 Unlimited hours? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 Unlimited hours? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 Job - Military Operations Industry - armed forces Approx salary - £42k+ Bonuses - depends. Getting a £21k bonus next year Take home - approx £2750 PCM Location - depends. London at the mo Years in job - nearly 15 years Education - college Perks - none to a few Hours - 0 - unlimited Surely you get to eat the left over food you've made if the crew don't scoff it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 Job - Military Operations Industry - armed forces Approx salary - £42k+ Bonuses - depends. Getting a £21k bonus next year Take home - approx £2750 PCM Location - depends. London at the mo Years in job - nearly 15 years Education - college Perks - none to a few Hours - 0 - unlimited Surely you get to eat the left over food you've made if the crew don't scoff it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 Surely you get to eat the left over food you've made if the crew don't scoff it? Was that another wise crack learned from the clink? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 Surely you get to eat the left over food you've made if the crew don't scoff it? Was that another wise crack learned from the clink? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 15-15, Turks to serve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 15-15, Turks to serve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 Job - Military Operations Industry - armed forces Approx salary - £42k+ Bonuses - depends. Getting a £21k bonus next year Take home - approx £2750 PCM Location - depends. London at the mo Years in job - nearly 15 years Education - college Perks - none to a few Hours - 0 - unlimited Do you have to contribute to your pension these days? Massive perk if not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 Job - Military Operations Industry - armed forces Approx salary - £42k+ Bonuses - depends. Getting a £21k bonus next year Take home - approx £2750 PCM Location - depends. London at the mo Years in job - nearly 15 years Education - college Perks - none to a few Hours - 0 - unlimited Do you have to contribute to your pension these days? Massive perk if not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 18 August, 2014 Share Posted 18 August, 2014 Do you have to contribute to your pension these days? Massive perk if not. that is true. Although, to keep that everything else around is being cut/costs going up. Which I guess everyone can say is happening to them feel for the lads that join up after April, the pension that makes this job attractive will be no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 18 August, 2014 Share Posted 18 August, 2014 Do you have to contribute to your pension these days? Massive perk if not. that is true. Although, to keep that everything else around is being cut/costs going up. Which I guess everyone can say is happening to them feel for the lads that join up after April, the pension that makes this job attractive will be no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 18 August, 2014 Share Posted 18 August, 2014 Job - Sales Director Industry - Business Services Bonuses - up to 100% Annual Salary (Cash and Shares) Location - London Years in job - 15 years Education - University Perks - Pension, Car, Health, decent lunches but most importantly working with a lot of 20 something year old tottie. Hours - 37.5+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 18 August, 2014 Share Posted 18 August, 2014 Job - Sales Director Industry - Business Services Bonuses - up to 100% Annual Salary (Cash and Shares) Location - London Years in job - 15 years Education - University Perks - Pension, Car, Health, decent lunches but most importantly working with a lot of 20 something year old tottie. Hours - 37.5+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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