Bearsy Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Because they don't have to? They have more things to worry about that appeasing a handful of wet fannies on an Internet forum. I wanted to learn bout FFP but all I can think of now is the handful of wet fannies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 (edited) Dunno, a quick google search shows he's been commenting on Saint newspaper articles sensibly for months, why choose now to reveal himself on the forum? I do concede the posts are pro new board leaning but so are a lot of the posters on here I am unconnected with Southampton FC. I live in San Luis Obispo, CA, USA. I have been toying with the idea of doing a Southampton blog for nearly two years. Less than a week ago the ill-informed discussion on the Echo forum caused me to decide to start the blog. Having done so, I wanted interested people to read it. I then decided to see what other Saints forums there were and to post to them with cites to my blog as relevant. This seems to work as every time I mention my blog (redsloscf.BlogSpot.com) there is a small burst of page hits. The blog is not, by the way, a financial benefit to me. It earns no money and because I am self employed I sort of lose money by doing this stuff rather than working--as I should be doing right now. Of course, I can't prove any of this so people will believe what they want. Also, my pro board status may be deceptive. If a high quality CB is not signed something is very wrong. And I am not happy with Cork going into the last year of his contract. Potential future blog posts: Did Les Reed Lie to Us? More Salary Cap nonsense Did Ralph Krueger Lie to Us? How Did I Become a Southampton Fan Our Transfer Activity Viewed through the Lens of FM 2014. Still More Salary Cap Nonsense Thoughts on Calculating the Value of a Player Should Everyone Read the BPL Handbook? Is it Time to Start Playing World of Warcraft Again? I can't promise to write all of them of course. Edited 4 August, 2014 by Redslo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Redslo, a quick question for you - some clarification based on how I read (or perhaps misread!) your blog. Is it fair to say that if we can hang-in-there this year, without a major spend on transfer fees, we'll be very well set in the following year and enjoying a salary cap benefit for some years to come? In other words, is there a significant "short term pain (loans rather than buys) for long term gain (salary cap enititlement)" equation at work here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Are you Redslo WG? I would love half a pint of what you've been drinking this summer. Back to the point / question. My reason for asking is it would stop the 'wet fannies', it would answer the Club's supporters concerns, it would stop the rest of the football world questioning and laughing at the club. Would you like a few more reasons. Of course they don't have to tell us but to avoid the above then why not. Is it possible that that's because that's not the reason they are keeping schtum? I'd willingly buy you a half pint or so. I don't drink myself (well, not much anyway) on account of my health. Apart from the desire to sell season tickets there's no need to worry about those who might question and laugh, and not everybody is doing so. 'Never apologise, never explain' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 I wanted to learn bout FFP but all I can think of now is the handful of wet fannies Don't take too much, more than a handful's wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Redslo, a quick question for you - some clarification based on how I read (or perhaps misread!) your blog. Is it fair to say that if we can hang-in-there this year, without a major spend on transfer fees, we'll be very well set in the following year and enjoying a salary cap benefit for some years to come? In other words, is there a significant "short term pain (loans rather than buys) for long term gain (salary cap enititlement)" equation at work here? Yes, no, and maybe. Yes, if we increase our salary spending this year, that will serve as the base in future years, with the ability to bump it each year by 4 million pounds plus increased commercial income etc. No, it is not enough to have a net positive transfer income. We actually have to spend it on salary to increase the salary cap. Maybe, this is based on rules put out covering the three seasons of the new TV contracts. Rules for 2016-2017 and beyond are not yet in place. Possibly there will be no salary cap then. Or maybe it will be calculated in a different way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Redslo....welcome and really interesting stuff you have been posting and makes a lot of sense. Completely unrelated, just got back from a vacation in Morro Bay and spent a fair amount of time in San Luis Obispo - and loved it. The Bishops Peak hike was fantastic and the town itself had a fantastic feel around the Mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Redslo WG does not mean anything to me. Redslo is based on the color red which is part of all my online gaming characters' names and slo is for San Luis Obispo where I live. Had a cracking day in San Luis Obispo involving the Farmers Market, some bars, a Caltech post grad and the Super 8 Motel. I know nothing about FFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Thanks for that answer. So a situation in which we spend a chunk of our transfer surplus on salaries rather than transfer fees helps us more than vice versa - for three years, at least? And taking that concept to an extreme, if we overpay on salaries for loan players (no contractual obligation to keep doing so - we'd just decide not to exercise the buy option), we'd enjoy a significant salary cap benefit next year without being unduly constrained on transfer fee spending? If that's the case, there's a lot of potential merit to what some are characterizing as madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 I sort of lose money by doing this stuff rather than working--as I should be doing right now. Be careful, Redslo, this place can be weirdly addictive. It’s like doing drugs – seems fine at first, but within days you’ll be a shambling, raving, incoherent loon just like the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 You'd think more to stop Kat sponsoring our youth team for £50m, tho I've never understood why anyone wants to prevent that sort of thing pervert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Yes, no, and maybe. Yes, if we increase our salary spending this year, that will serve as the base in future years, with the ability to bump it each year by 4 million pounds plus increased commercial income etc. No, it is not enough to have a net positive transfer income. We actually have to spend it on salary to increase the salary cap. Maybe, this is based on rules put out covering the three seasons of the new TV contracts. Rules for 2016-2017 and beyond are not yet in place. Possibly there will be no salary cap then. Or maybe it will be calculated in a different way. How long are we likely to be hamstrung by this situation? Could we be in a position to make the loan signings permanent in a years time (or make other permanent signings)? How on earth did a Californian get interested in SFC? We normally struggle to get interest in our club outside of Hampshire - this close season being an exception for obvious reasons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Washsaint and Buctootim: The downtown area of SLO was what caused me to move here 18 years ago. I was passing through on my way to Santa Barbara and really liked it. I needed to move out of Eureka for business reasons--I am an appellate attorney who gets court appointed cases through the state so I needed to be more centrally located. I picked here because it was nice. CanadaSaint: That is my interpretation of what is going on. But I could be wrong because there could be special rules for loans that I can't find and because I have no way of knowing if it is all a master plan to loot the team and then sell. I don't think it is but I cannot know that. Halo Stickman: I have already achieved those statuses playing various games over the years. This will merely shift the focus of my addiction. Greenbridge: So long as the salary cap continues to work the way it works now, it will always be something of a barrier to progress for us. But if they do what I think they are doing this year, the problem should be lessened. To really lessen it there needs to be more regularly increasing regular income. More and better sponsorships is one way to go. Another way is lucrative foreign tours. Given our good performance last year and all the publicity this summer, we probably could have filled a few stadiums in the US. If we do well again this season, the possibilities will still be there next year. Somewhere on the Echo boards is a post of mine discussing how much more money the big teams make in the summer than we do. Greenbridge: If people keep reading (or at least page hitting) my blog I will eventually discuss how I became a Southampton Fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 I havent read it in detail, but this guy seems to know what hes talking about re FFP http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/financial-fair-play-explained.php If that were the case, why don't the board just come out and say this? I would go from plainly thinking they are inept to run a football club to they are some kind of account geniouses and really have the best long term interest of the club at heart and really understand why they are making all these moves Its possible but i wouldn t say its probable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StDunko Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Redslo, read your blogs, very impressed. I really hope you are right (and that our board is as switched on as you appear to be)! As a big baseball fan (as well as Saints Fan) I have often wondered how much of a "Moneyball" approach could be applied to football. I wouldn't mind us being the Oakland A's of the Prem. Perhaps Ralph should have made that analogy, rather than the GB Packers one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 We've lost our promising manager and best players and kept a number of players that give us a squad as good as Norwich's last season... In other words, not looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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