JonnyOldBoy Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 I supposed many have noticed this already but all the training-wear t-shirts have been over stretched prior to the badge being applied hence the material has puckered around the badge making the garment look cheap and badly made. Also the team shirts have been made with incredibly poor seam stitching using loose loop rather than tighter double loops. The reason I am stating this ? Simple,,,, those that claimed our stuff was being made in the same factories ( sweat-shops they said ) as branded stuff like Adidas, Puma and Nike are talking nonsense. These have not been made in factories with the same quality control and quality assembly processes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 Meh, it's one year and nobody forces you to buy them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsarum Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 All the sizes are wrong too for all the gear my son and I tried on yesterday, including first team shirts, jackets, tracksuits If you usually have medium you need large, large XL etc. a young adult would probably be a Small Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 At the Brighton game, both Wanyama and Fonte split their shorts down the crotch. Wanyama changed his shorts at half time. Fonte's wardrobe malfunction happened in the 2nd half and he manly played on without a change of kit. Was the thing the two girls I was with were most excited about in the entire math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 At the Brighton game, both Wanyama and Fonte split their shorts down the crotch. Wanyama changed his shorts at half time. Fonte's wardrobe malfunction happened in the 2nd half and he manly played on without a change of kit. Was the thing the two girls I was with were most excited about in the entire math. Can be a boring subject tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 At the Brighton game, both Wanyama and Fonte split their shorts down the crotch. Wanyama changed his shorts at half time. Fonte's wardrobe malfunction happened in the 2nd half and he manly played on without a change of kit. Was the thing the two girls I was with were most excited about in the entire math. Sums it up well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 First the pies, now this. The club is a shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 All the sizes are wrong too for all the gear my son and I tried on yesterday, including first team shirts, jackets, tracksuits If you usually have medium you need large, large XL etc. a young adult would probably be a Small I'm not being funny, but the shirts are made for ultra lean footballers. These players are superb athletes, generally, with a minute amount of body fat. Most football fans are not lean. So do you want to see loads of men and women looking like a fat f*cking mess in their normal size, or do you want them to buy a size (or 3) bigger to hide the rolls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 I'm not being funny, but the shirts are made for ultra lean footballers. These players are superb athletes, generally, with a minute amount of body fat. Most football fans are not lean. So do you want to see loads of men and women looking like a fat f*cking mess in their normal size, or do you want them to buy a size (or 3) bigger to hide the rolls? Quite. The average proffesional sportsman has between 6-10% body fat, the average man 18-24%, I'd guess the Average shirt wearing football fan runs at about 35%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 Meh, it's one year and nobody forces you to buy them. Exactly, the new owner will sort the kit out. Cos this one, cheaper the better all round the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 Quite. The average proffesional sportsman has between 6-10% body fat, the average man 18-24%, I'd guess the Average shirt wearing football fan runs at about 35%. Seeing the actions of Lallana and Lovren and the knee jerk reaction of Morgan, I'd say some footballers have more than 35% Fat .... it's just that they don't test the area betwen the ears for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsarum Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 I'm not being funny, but the shirts are made for ultra lean footballers. These players are superb athletes, generally, with a minute amount of body fat. Most football fans are not lean. So do you want to see loads of men and women looking like a fat f*cking mess in their normal size, or do you want them to buy a size (or 3) bigger to hide the rolls? I'm sorry the kit on sale at the shop is for supporters not players and compared to sizes of past kit and what you'll find in most clothes shops the gear is a least one size out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 (edited) I'm sorry the kit on sale at the shop is for supporters not players and compared to sizes of past kit and what you'll find in most clothes shops the gear is a least one size out people will presumably buy the size that fits them though, why anyone would want to be seen in public in a replica football shirt beats all intelligence known to the human race though. Replica shirts distort football, the more knobs that you have following you on a global basis the more you can spend on salaries and transfer fees. Beckham's transfer to Real was entirely funded by shirt sales. Edited 3 August, 2014 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsarum Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 people will presumably buy the size that fits them though, why anyone would want to be seen in public in a replica football shirt beats all intelligence known to the human race though. Replica shirts distort football, the more knobs that you have following you on a global basis the more you can spend on salaries and transfer fees. Beckham's transfer to Real was entirely funded by shirt sales. My initial post was to warn people about the problems regards sizes many supporters order online and should be made aware of the incorrect sizing, i know of one supporter in London who already needs to change his shirt due to this issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 I'm sorry the kit on sale at the shop is for supporters not players and compared to sizes of past kit and what you'll find in most clothes shops the gear is a least one size out LOL. If you're buying XXL, it's because you're XXL, not because the shop is "one size out". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyOldBoy Posted 3 August, 2014 Author Share Posted 3 August, 2014 and my post was not a dig at the club, they made the best of a situation after Cortese sh@t on them with regards the contract... my point was that those claiming the shirts were as good as branded ones were talking utter bollux... ( is that common on here ? ) ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOWSaintDaz Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 Pretty apt as club us falling apart at the seams too.....just like the kit is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 and my post was not a dig at the club, they made the best of a situation after Cortese sh@t on them with regards the contract... my point was that those claiming the shirts were as good as branded ones were talking utter bollux... ( is that common on here ? ) ;-) Can ou really see Cortese signing off on this kit really. I mean he made a big enough fuss about branded kit, he probably wouldn't have this stuff as cleaning rags tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 and my post was not a dig at the club, they made the best of a situation after Cortese sh@t on them with regards the contract... my point was that those claiming the shirts were as good as branded ones were talking utter bollux... ( is that common on here ? ) ;-) they are all probably like the shirts when you wash them at 32° or so, all rosy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 LOL. If you're buying XXL, it's because you're XXL, not because the shop is "one size out". Really? Well youre wrong. Im a big lad, I need 2xl. This years kit is so poor even the 3xl doesnt fit. So its £45 the club have lost out on from me. Probably a LOL for you but for a business that apparently wants to up its commercial revenue making a mistake that stops your core customers buying from you is pretty ****ing un LOL if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 Really? Well youre wrong. Im a big lad, I need 2xl. This years kit is so poor even the 3xl doesnt fit. So its £45 the club have lost out on from me. Probably a LOL for you but for a business that apparently wants to up its commercial revenue making a mistake that stops your core customers buying from you is pretty ****ing un LOL if you ask me. Just seen a report on the world's most populous football game between Utd and Real yesterday. 103000+ knobbers in Utd,Barcelona and Real shirts and we come out with this monstrosity which even some of our shirt buying fans don't seem to want. An estimate of the production costs EuroSaint ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldskoolsi Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 Meh, it's one year and nobody forces you to buy them. Same could be said about a season ticket. Some people like wearing shirts and this year at least 1 person doesn't think think they're any good. No need to be a wum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 (edited) Really? Well youre wrong. Im a big lad, I need 2xl. This years kit is so poor even the 3xl doesnt fit. So its £45 the club have lost out on from me. Probably a LOL for you but for a business that apparently wants to up its commercial revenue making a mistake that stops your core customers buying from you is pretty ****ing un LOL if you ask me. Read what I wrote earlier and don't take it out of context, spanner. In fact, I'll put it here in case you can't be bothered to scroll up; "I'm not being funny, but the shirts are made for ultra lean footballers. These players are superb athletes, generally, with a minute amount of body fat. Most football fans are not lean. So do you want to see loads of men and women looking like a fat f*cking mess in their normal size, or do you want them to buy a size (or 3) bigger to hide the rolls?" Additionally, the online store tells you the chest size you need to fit the chest. But if you look at the design of the shirt as it is DESIGNED FOR ULTRA LEAN FOOTBALLERS, it is a very slim fit tailoring. Ergo, if you want something to hang lose over your belly, you need to go with a bigger size. It's not rocket science, nor is it a rouse to make more money. FFS! Edited 3 August, 2014 by Patrick Bateman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northant Saint Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 Meh, it's one year and nobody forces you to buy them. Bizzare comment. Fans pay their hard earned cash for these shirts and expect quality to reflect the price. How long the strip will be 'current' for is largely irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 Quite. The average proffesional sportsman has between 6-10% body fat,. Lol no they're f#cking not, you can't even retain 6% body fat unless you're on clen or something. They'd be in the 10-15% range. It's just fat average joes who're like "herp derp he's got abs he must be 2%bf" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 Lol no they're f#cking not, you can't even retain 6% body fat unless you're on clen or something. They'd be in the 10-15% range. It's just fat average joes who're like "herp derp he's got abs he must be 2%bf" Hmmm ... "Body fat percentage for your top professional soccer player is typically below 10%" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block34 Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 Sorry, but don't you guys go at least 1 if not 2 sizes bigger so you can put the shirt over some warmer clothing in winter? I do for sure but even though I'm now down to a XL from a 2XL, I'll still likely go for a 3XL - after all, it's not a firkin fashion show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 Hmmm ... "Body fat percentage for your top professional soccer player is typically below 10%" I'm with Pat and Turks, 6-10% is what you usually see in footballers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 Like i said before,they are actually made in the same factory that supplies clothing to primark,peacocks,tesco and new look.....says it all really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 LOL. If you're buying XXL, it's because you're XXL, not because the shop is "one size out". No, it's because the sizes are all AT LEAST one size out. I bought last year's home shirt when it went to £15 6 weeks ago, that was a large. I haven't gone up 3 sizes in 6 weeks, the sizes are basically complete b011ocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 No, it's because the sizes are all AT LEAST one size out. I bought last year's home shirt when it went to £15 6 weeks ago, that was a large. I haven't gone up 3 sizes in 6 weeks, the sizes are basically complete b011ocks. FFS, can't you read either? Look at the quote that was applied to ("most clothes shops the gear is a least one size out")and read the other post I made. Jesus f**king christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 I read the quote, it still says exactly what it says. Maybe you should quote the post you're responding to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 FFS, can't you read either? Look at the quote that was applied to ("most clothes shops the gear is a least one size out")and read the other post I made. Jesus f**king christ. Yeah, what you've done there is quoted part of a sentence without the rest of it that gives it the context, and so have changed his meaning. What he wrote was "compared to [...] what you'll find in most clothes shops the gear is a least one size out". He is clearly saying the Saints range is out of line with most other shops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 I have never ever had a 4xl before in my life and the one I got for my Birthday is quite cozy, better steer well clear of the pies for the next 10 months!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 Yeah, what you've done there is quoted part of a sentence without the rest of it that gives it the context, and so have changed his meaning. What he wrote was "compared to [...] what you'll find in most clothes shops the gear is a least one size out". He is clearly saying the Saints range is out of line with most other shops. Thank you for explaining where the confusion arises, now that makes sense. Although I still stand by my other post (that, so what, it's for skinny blokes unlike most of us so you buy bigger - it doesn't matter). But sleep deprivation f**king sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 I have never ever had a 4xl before in my life and the one I got for my Birthday is quite cozy, better steer well clear of the pies for the next 10 months!! All those Spanish tortillas? I share you pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 I have never ever had a 4xl before in my life and the one I got for my Birthday is quite cozy, better steer well clear of the pies for the next 10 months!! Didn't youhave a few issues with pies last season? When will you learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 Didn't youhave a few issues with pies last season? When will you learn. He certainly did! Perhaps explains why he needs a bigger shirt than at any time before?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 The own brand kit was always going to be rubbish and it looks like it is turning out as expected! We had years of this rubbish with the 's' brand and I finally thought we had it sorted only for us to step back into the dark ages! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 3 August, 2014 Share Posted 3 August, 2014 He certainly did! Perhaps explains why he needs a bigger shirt than at any time before?? Cheeky bugger, it was Pasties, and I stopped buying them so it should be the complete opposite!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 On the plus side we should win a fair few penalties this season as the things get ripped to shreds at every corner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 I find that a replica 'bobble hat' and a wooly scarfe is enough to show the away fans who you support. Both can be worn at winter and keep you warm as you pour out oxtail soup from you red and white chequered thermos. For the Cup games it is worth buying a club rosette and a rattle can also increase the enjoyment of the occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Quite. The average professional sportsman has between 6-10% body fat, the average man 18-24%, I'd guess the Average shirt wearing football fan runs at about 35%. Or the same fat % as a pork scratching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 No, it's because the sizes are all AT LEAST one size out. I bought last year's home shirt when it went to £15 6 weeks ago, that was a large. I haven't gone up 3 sizes in 6 weeks, the sizes are basically complete b011ocks. A size can NOT be out as there is NO industry standard for what a size needs to be. A Medium or Large is simply where it lies in that manufacturers range of sizes, and they vary from make to make. The size in inches (which is at least 2" smaller per size than many makes) is clearly stated on the website, far more relevant than M or L. The variations between a slim fit style and a loose baggy fit exaggerates the difference even more. I own a men's clothes shop and know full well that there are certain brands I always need to tell customers to try a size smaller or bigger than they expect. Doesn't mean their sizes are out, it's just how their traditional ranges fit. If you wear a Medium Ben Sherman shirt you'll be wanting a Large, (probably an XL unless you still want it to look a slim fit) to be comfortable in a Lambretta for example. Personally even in the long distant past as a teenager I always had to by a size bigger in Umbro polo shirts than brands to be comfortable aand needed XXL in tha sash shirt when L or XL was my normal size. With trainers I know I always need a half or full size bigger in adidas than other makes. I bet there's very few on here that if you check your wardrobe will find every top that fits you has the same size in the label (unless you are dedicated to one particular brand). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 I own a men's clothes shop Personally, I wouldn’t dream of shopping anywhere else, oooh aaah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 A size can NOT be out as there is NO industry standard for what a size needs to be. A Medium or Large is simply where it lies in that manufacturers range of sizes, and they vary from make to make. The size in inches (which is at least 2" smaller per size than many makes) is clearly stated on the website, far more relevant than M or L. The variations between a slim fit style and a loose baggy fit exaggerates the difference even more. I own a men's clothes shop and know full well that there are certain brands I always need to tell customers to try a size smaller or bigger than they expect. Doesn't mean their sizes are out, it's just how their traditional ranges fit. If you wear a Medium Ben Sherman shirt you'll be wanting a Large, (probably an XL unless you still want it to look a slim fit) to be comfortable in a Lambretta for example. Personally even in the long distant past as a teenager I always had to by a size bigger in Umbro polo shirts than brands to be comfortable aand needed XXL in tha sash shirt when L or XL was my normal size. With trainers I know I always need a half or full size bigger in adidas than other makes. I bet there's very few on here that if you check your wardrobe will find every top that fits you has the same size in the label (unless you are dedicated to one particular brand). Well maybe Saints should have considered this before ordering loads of XLs and not enough XXLs because the size on the garment is 1 or 2 different to what people would expect? FWIW I found the sash shirt size exactly what I'd expect - they were, *ahem* "Tailored By Umbro", after all, and most of Umbro's shirts at that time used chest measurement in inches not S/M/L/XL categories (though not for Saints). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Wurzel, quit with the common sense, it's not welcome here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 I think considering Ralph has never made a kit before and is not trained seamstress, it's a bit unfair to rag on his needlework like this. I'm sure he's doing the best he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
September Saint Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Personally, I wouldn’t dream of shopping anywhere else, oooh aaah Have you noticed that all 4 guys have exactly the same amount of cider in their glass Spooky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Have you noticed that all 4 guys have exactly the same amount of cider in their glass Spooky team zuider drinking innit, roughly the same rules as synchronised swimming no doubt, the aesthetic effect is all that counts,so take that farkin hat off number 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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