pangy Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Just spoke to a couple of Villa mates to get there opinion He started off OK then went to complete ****e after few games. Started really well but ended up being utter ****e. Could well just be down to the awful tactics and Championship quality defenders though Will do a job providing he fits in well
ratio_decidendi Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Excellent signing. Should he impress, the club can make a stronger financial commitment next season. If he doesn't, then it leaves room for Targett to develop. There's very little risk yet so much to gain from Ryan Betrand. Very happy with this. Onwards and upwards - time for a CB and GK next!
Joesaint Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Happy with that, loan with option to buy is about a good as it gets, eliminates risk too. Well done Saints Happy saint, now we just need a few other options
K,Billy's supersound Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Im please with this, great player imho Was good whenever he played for Chelsea and won a couple of England caps when he got a run of games. We need players, if a couple of them are loans thats absolutely fine. We have not used the loan system effectively imho. Times have now changed i agree i think its a very good signing, low risk, low cost and proven premiership left wingback.
harvey Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 I haven't been a season ticket holder for the last 3 years, so maybe i have no right to voice an opinion....but considering the amount we've recouped in player sales, i'm not impressed tbh.
saintwbu Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Slightly underwhelmed but I think I just have that feeling with English players nowadays probably because of their overpricing and the national team's constant disappointment. Being on loan makes it less disappointing from the perspective of we won't be paying anything for him, but at the same time I WANT us to spend something! So it's a tough one. I wish him luck, difficult situation to come into but he's shown promise before. I know it's only a loan but is this proof that deals can still go under the radar? I don't recall anything being touted about this one? That could be encouraging that perhaps we could be close to other deals that we just don't know about. Hopefully, anyway.
sfc4prem Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Really erudite signing. Happy to welcome Ryan on board, a good player in my eyes.
Sour Mash Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 i agree i think its a very good signing, low risk, low cost and proven premiership left wingback. Proven in the Premier League?
OttawaSaint Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 This thread really demonstrates who the colossal bellends on here are. Give the guy a chance FFS. Not every big money signing works out as you lot continually remind us (and a bit more) about Gaston and Osvaldo.
Atlanta Saint Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Just spoke to a couple of Villa mates to get there opinion Will do a job providing he fits in well To be fair the Villa defenders were overworked all last season, even Vlaar looked an average player last season for villa.
S-Clarke Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Stick a link up? http://www.villatalk.com/index.php/topic/10677-ryan-bertrand/page-34?hl=bertrand
Lighthouse Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 I haven't been a season ticket holder for the last 3 years, so maybe i have no right to voice an opinion....but considering the amount we've recouped in player sales, i'm not impressed tbh. Again, why the insistence on spending money just because we have it? We spent £15m on Osvaldo and £800k on Steven Davis. It's not about the money, it's about the right deal.
saintnick Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Good signin, end of. If you think otherwise you are a fool. We are not in a position to sign world class players ffs
shurlock Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 http://www.villatalk.com/index.php/topic/10677-ryan-bertrand/page-34?hl=bertrand http://www.astonvilla.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=56637&start=1&highlight=bertrand&highlightmode=1 As well
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 just wonder why it took so long to seal a loan deal in ? How long have we been working on it?
Saint Jude Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 I shouldn't be surprised... but there's a lot of hypocrisy on here... all these players who after one season of success want to turn into prima donnas and buy success at the first sign of trouble.. we slag them off... then all the fans on here act the same way.. planned.. thought through and leaves space for Matt...
Bearsy Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 ive only seen bertrand once in the flesh, when we played at villa park last season & i thought he was pretty good.
Give it to Ron Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 (edited) Good to see the OS not going overboard. Was Rodgers being wheeled out anything to do with the change in board or was Reed at Inter :-) Edited 30 July, 2014 by Give it to Ron
Graffito Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Again, why the insistence on spending money just because we have it? We spent £15m on Osvaldo and £800k on Steven Davis. It's not about the money, it's about the right deal. Agree. It's about quality rather than price.
Graffito Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Good to see the OS not going overboard. Couldn't care less what the OS does. Ours like all the others are propaganda.
angelman Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Mega lols #ourdreamisreal What does that mean? Do people write gobbledegook and think by putting a # it all makes sense?
monosaint Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 His CV looks impressive so has potential but not given the opportunities as most English players at Chelsea. Has played for England at all levels and also CL final. I think it looks a good move. May be saving the money for 2 or 3 big signings. That works for me.
saint1977 Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 http://www.astonvilla.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=56637&start=1&highlight=bertrand&highlightmode=1 As well Neither of the Villa links about Bertrand are particularly critical of him, in fact he began well but are far more critical of the club. It was more his wages on loan when Villa were so skint. Not really a problem as he's probably on about the same or slightly less than Shaw. £10m is quite a big fee if we wanted to keep him and stayed up but then LB is a specialist position. I'm quite happy with the signing anyway and I've been quite critical of the board the last few days. Like I say, good reports from my Villa supporting colleagues and they are generally critical of most things Villa-related at present!
ART Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Rory Smith of the Times is reporting Rory Smith @RorySmithTimes · 43m Bertrand an unspectacular but astute signing for Southampton. They're after Nathan Redmond, too, which would also be very nifty.
Sour Mash Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 http://www.villatalk.com/index.php/topic/10677-ryan-bertrand/page-34?hl=bertrand Cheers. Bit of an indifferent response throughout.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Decent enough signing for me. Liverpool wanted him so good enough for a mid-table side this season. Used to go out with my sisters best mate as well.
supersonic Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 seem to be going for the cheap options....we all know what happened last time we did that...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Guess this means no Rojo, who looked bloody good to me.
davefizzy14 Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Very happy, great competition to have at left back and a champions league winner to boot. Welcome onboard Ryan. Hopefully we can still get Rojo.
TwoPints Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 I think it's a bit of a PR gaffe really. At the moment, it looks like we've brought in £100m or thereabouts and borrowed a player for a year. The assumption being that you only borrow when you can't afford. If Saints had announced their marquee signing(s) before announcing a loan deal then all would have been well. I guess the fear is that there will be no marquee signing, just a couple of loans and the cash disappears from the club coffers.
angelman Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 On the plus side, it might take the heat out of our market and people might not be so quick to slap an extra few £million on.
SaintRobbie Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 seem to be going for the cheap options....we all know what happened last time we did that... We had a number of unsuccessful loanees too.
Lighthouse Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 We had a number of unsuccessful loanees too. We also signed a player who had previously been average at Villa. Ended up in the England squad.
ART Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Ryan played unfamiliar left wing in front of Ashley Cole in Champions League Final http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2147316/Ryan-Bertrand-makes-Champions-League-debut-Chelsea.html
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 seem to be going for the cheap options....we all know what happened last time we did that... We signed Jonno Quick and Antonio...
harvey Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Again, why the insistence on spending money just because we have it? We spent £15m on Osvaldo and £800k on Steven Davis. It's not about the money, it's about the right deal. Because i don't think he's that good, and it's not really about how much money we have to spend...........I don't think the 'bored' have handled things well over the last few months, but I trust them, maybe an unpopular view atm but i do......I just don't rate RB but I'm not a manager of a premier league football team so it doesn't matter.
TwoPints Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Used to go out with my sisters best mate as well. What was his name then?
Pedro Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Probably had to pay Chelski a few bob for him, not a free signing.
Milton Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 What an unsavoury response to what is a solid signing - one good season and you lot start sounding like a bunch of spoilt brats This
Graffito Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 seem to be going for the cheap options....we all know what happened last time we did that... Quality not price. What's your assessment?
Lazlo78 Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Good news - obviously we needed a LB and we have got one. Maybe he won't be the only one, but we're not looking at playing Targett at Anfield i August...
MAY-Z Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Well I'm happy enough with a loan in the left back position - doesn't discourage targett to much and doesn't lock us in to a player who has shown ability but maybe not on as much of a consistent basis as he should Obsoletely mind boggling the response of the majority on here
Jonnyboy Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Will it please the plastics? Not sure that word is politically correct these days old chum.
Baird of the land Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Don't think he's a particularly impressive signing. Guess it's only a loan. Really hoping targett comes through brilliantly this season. We are going to be massively weaker at left back no matter what.
egg Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Good business this. Decent player. Can slot straight until the team whilst Targett develops. If he does well but Targett doesn't meet expectations then we can exercise the option and have the benefit of continuity. All that without blowing millions on an unknown foreign player. I can't believe some of the comments on here criticizing this deal. Anyone can see he's a good player, and anyone should be able to see that this is a shrewd piece of risk free business.
Heisenberg Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Be good if he has a storming season and edges fatty Shaw out of the England squad
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Extremely underwhelmed by this. So what if he played in the champs league final when Chelsea had no other options. Mediocre to poor player. And on loan too. At least we know for sure where the board are aiming us at now. As the saying goes - don't pay attention to what somebody says, pay attention to what they do. So Ralph you can spout your **** but in reality all you have done is sold Shaw and brought in an also ran on loan. If Lowe had done this we would all be up in arms.
teamsaint Posted 30 July, 2014 Posted 30 July, 2014 Not sure that word is politically correct these days old chum. All part of the new "ca plane......."
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