Highfield Saint Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 The word at the time was that he was bought (for £1m I believe) to sell quickly for a profit. There was a lot of talk on here about how stupid that would be and indeed, it didnt happen and look what a great buy he turned out to be. Lowe should also take credit for brining in people like Niemi (Strachan wanted another keeper) and Killer previously so for a "hockey guy! he did bring in some quality (okey, I know we got some dross too). It wasnt so much the purchase of Schneiderlin. We were struggling to adjust to being out of the top flight and were not generating enough income. A number of players had been shipped out upon relegation to save wages and Lowe had a relegation clause in the contracts to help reduce the wage bill but the parachute money was not as huge as it is now and we just didnt cope with the drop financially. He didn't though did he hence the sale of players to reduce wages which coupled to the disastrous managerial changes sent us into a downward spiral. Deserves no credit at all as he spun his position and reputation from the assets and goodwill of others. Really have no time for him or his opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 He didn't though did he hence the sale of players to reduce wages which coupled to the disastrous managerial changes sent us into a downward spiral. Deserves no credit at all as he spun his position and reputation from the assets and goodwill of others. Really have no time for him or his opinions. He was the first Chairman at SFC to introduce relegation clauses. It was that drop in salary that influenced players to move on. As Lowe says, if someone wants to leave there is very little you can do to stop them - unless you want to be surrounded by pouting children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 He was the first Chairman at SFC to introduce relegation clauses. It was that drop in salary that influenced players to move on. As Lowe says, if someone wants to leave there is very little you can do to stop them - unless you want to be surrounded by pouting children. Yes, but not for every player, more's the pity. If he had, maybe they'd have tried a bit harder to avoid relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 For those wanting to heard Rupert Lowe, Taklksport have just posted it at the following link http://talksport.com/football/exclusive-southampton-conveyor-belt-will-soon-stop-warns-ex-chairman-lowe-140730104634 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 rupert lowe what a fu**ing knob. No future planning on the academy when we have been spending all that money on Staplewood and are renowned for having one of the best academies in Europe. The guy is a total deluded ***** and thank christ he has nothing to do with Saints anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stthrobber Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 I've just listened to the interview and he does make some good and relevant points. He did say "at the end of the day" more times than anyone I can remember during an interview. I think the key point is that as he says, he's not at the club any more, and most of the people that were there when he was have also gone, so all he can offer is opinion from a distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 He didn't though did he hence the sale of players to reduce wages which coupled to the disastrous managerial changes sent us into a downward spiral. Deserves no credit at all as he spun his position and reputation from the assets and goodwill of others. Really have no time for him or his opinions. I am not saying that mistakes were not made but to just say that he did nothing right is to ignore the facts. Each to his/her own though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 I've just listened to the interview and he does make some good and relevant points. He did say "at the end of the day" more times than anyone I can remember during an interview. I think the key point is that as he says, he's not at the club any more, and most of the people that were there when he was have also gone, so all he can offer is opinion from a distance. Hi Throbber, you will remember the many debates on Lowe on Saints List - nothing changes does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 If Lowe had appointed Hoddle in 2004 instead of Sturrock we may well have continued our unbroken run in the Premier League. The fact that he and the board bowed to pressure from a tiny vocal minority of fans was his downfall and tragic for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 For those wanting to heard Rupert Lowe, Taklksport have just posted it at the following link http://talksport.com/football/exclusive-southampton-conveyor-belt-will-soon-stop-warns-ex-chairman-lowe-140730104634 Jesus, who is heavy breathing on this link! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 If Lowe had appointed Hoddle in 2004 instead of Sturrock we may well have continued our unbroken run in the Premier League. The fact that he and the board bowed to pressure from a tiny vocal minority of fans was his downfall and tragic for the club. I have to agree with this statement. It was hard for many to see Hoddle returning but there wouldn't have been the disasters that folllowed. Firing Sturrock was another mistake and we would have progressed had he remained. Nowadays it is clear to 99% of Sa\ints supporters where the mistakes were made. Whilst taking of Hoddle, I believe investing some of the transfer money and appointing director of the Academy would be a tremendous move. Saw Hoddle's on the point of joining Harry at QPR so he's not above taking a job below his station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 What a ****ing cvnt. How dare that pr1ck say such outrages things....I hate that d1ckhead (Sounds like he had a point with most of it and all seemed quite a reasonable opinion but I do enjoy slagging him off) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 I have to agree with this statement. It was hard for many to see Hoddle returning but there wouldn't have been the disasters that folllowed. Firing Sturrock was another mistake and we would have progressed had he remained. Nowadays it is clear to 99% of Sa\ints supporters where the mistakes were made. Whilst taking of Hoddle, I believe investing some of the transfer money and appointing director of the Academy would be a tremendous move. Saw Hoddle's on the point of joining Harry at QPR so he's not above taking a job below his station. Agreed, I think he could do a great job at Saints and would also add valuable experience to help Koeman with the English set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfield Saint Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 I am not saying that mistakes were not made but to just say that he did nothing right is to ignore the facts. Each to his/her own though. Equally I am not saying that he did nothing right but his opportunistic approach to acquire the football club and in particular the methods employed from a (in this industry) man of straw resulted in the failure of his ambition at all of our expense. He was financially under resourced and under capitalised as well as being an odious and nasty man in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 If Lowe had appointed Hoddle in 2004 instead of Sturrock we may well have continued our unbroken run in the Premier League. The fact that he and the board bowed to pressure from a tiny vocal minority of fans was his downfall and tragic for the club. tiny vocal minority? I know this is your `specialist subject', but I distinctly recall that much of the ground expressed their lack of desire for a Hoddle return. Lowe certainly bowed to fan pressure, but there seemed plenty of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 tiny vocal minority? I know this is your `specialist subject', but I distinctly recall that much of the ground expressed their lack of desire for a Hoddle return. Lowe certainly bowed to fan pressure, but there seemed plenty of it. Don't encourage him. He's just churning out his "Stairway to Heaven", his smash hit hilarious trolling routine. We can all sing along. You've got to admit it's solid gold chuckles all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 tiny vocal minority? I know this is your `specialist subject', but I distinctly recall that much of the ground expressed their lack of desire for a Hoddle return. Lowe certainly bowed to fan pressure, but there seemed plenty of it. The majority of fans were much more pragmatic and put the good of the club before points scoring. The minority made a lot of noise, disproportionate to their numbers. At least you have admitted the part of the fans in blocking the appointment of Hoddle. Many of the 'few', are too lilly livered to admit their part in the debacle and indeed they would rather airbrush the incident from history. That is why they have ridiculed me and attempted to shut me up over the last decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 Don't encourage him. He's just churning out his "Stairway to Heaven", his smash hit hilarious trolling routine. We can all sing along. You've got to admit it's solid gold chuckles all the way. Hello, its the 'Telly Tubby' poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 rupert lowe what a fu**ing knob. No future planning on the academy when we have been spending all that money on Staplewood and are renowned for having one of the best academies in Europe. The guy is a total deluded ***** and thank christ he has nothing to do with Saints anymore Aye. Reading the likes of SOGgy still defending himand hankering after him and the "good old times" he created is pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 For those wanting to heard Rupert Lowe, Taklksport have just posted it at the following link http://talksport.com/football/exclusive-southampton-conveyor-belt-will-soon-stop-warns-ex-chairman-lowe-140730104634 Just listened to it for the first time. Whether you agree or disagree with Lowe, there's no debating that he is very good at articulating his point of view. If we could merge Krueger's positivity and enthusiasm with Lowe's powers of articulation we'd have a cracking chairman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 Aye. Reading the likes of SOGgy still defending himand hankering after him and the "good old times" he created is pathetic Someone has to balance the one way traffic Alpine. We did get to a Cup Final (something that Cortese seemed to have a problem with) European football and we did have some decent years. It wasnt all bad. Yes it went pea shaped at the end but many people had a hand in the downfall (Wilde, Crouch et al) not just Lowe. Lowe and his colleagues should take credit for what they did with the acadamy because they did a very good job. I am no lover of Cortese but am prepared to accept that he delivered. There is very little black and white in life. And Alps, I am not hankering after him ok? By the way, I left you a present on the 80s/90s Totty thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 Just listened to it for the first time. Whether you agree or disagree with Lowe, there's no debating that he is very good at articulating his point of view. If we could merge Krueger's positivity and enthusiasm with Lowe's powers of articulation we'd have a cracking chairman Did he mention Klingons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 Someone has to balance the one way traffic Alpine. We did get to a Cup Final (something that Cortese seemed to have a problem with) European football and we did have some decent years. It wasnt all bad. Yes it went pea shaped at the end but many people had a hand in the downfall (Wilde, Crouch et al) not just Lowe. Lowe and his colleagues should take credit for what they did with the acadamy because they did a very good job. I am no lover of Cortese but am prepared to accept that he delivered. There is very little black and white in life. And Alps, I am not hankering after him ok? By the way, I left you a present on the 80s/90s Totty thread Wilde, Crouch et al had no part in our relegation from the Premier League. Subsequent eff-ups had many and other fathers, but Lowe almost entirely to blame for the first drop, with the players and the assorted managers taking the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 Wilde, Crouch et al had no part in our relegation from the Premier League. Subsequent eff-ups had many and other fathers, but Lowe almost entirely to blame for the first drop, with the players and the assorted managers taking the rest. I think that Harry Redknapp needs to take some of that blame doesnt he CB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 I think that Harry Redknapp needs to take some of that blame doesnt he CB? Yes, I did say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 If Lowe had appointed Hoddle in 2004 instead of Sturrock we may well have continued our unbroken run in the Premier League. The fact that he and the board bowed to pressure from a tiny vocal minority of fans was his downfall and tragic for the club. Are you really in charge of kids? So we wouldn't have had the Liebherr years you ungrateful bastard how dare you diss the great man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 Only thing I can think of is The Lodge, which has indeed been sold since Rupes time, but not sure if/why this would have a big effect on talent development. It was certainly the lodge he mentioned. Have the club replaced that in any way? He obviously feels that having the youth players living there was instrumental in their youth development plan. Maybe due to the camaraderie or the supervision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 10 years on an the next season will be a repeat on 2004/05. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 30 July, 2014 Share Posted 30 July, 2014 10 years on an the next season will be a repeat on 2004/05. The situation is very different now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 The majority of fans were much more pragmatic and put the good of the club before points scoring. The minority made a lot of noise, disproportionate to their numbers. At least you have admitted the part of the fans in blocking the appointment of Hoddle. Many of the 'few', are too lilly livered to admit their part in the debacle and indeed they would rather airbrush the incident from history. That is why they have ridiculed me and attempted to shut me up over the last decade. As I said, IMO it wasn't a vocal minority, it was the majority of fans in the stadium that day that expressed their unhappiness at Hoddle coming back. You can airbrush the incident all you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 10 years on an the next season will be a repeat on 2004/05. Does Koeman like a fried egg sandwich I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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