Whitey Grandad Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 Didn't Ralph say the players wanted a quick route to the CL? Did he say with which club that might be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 The club really can't win can they? if they put their foot down they are being unfair to the player. If they let the player go they are incompetent. WTF are they supposed to do? They can't win now because they set the original precedent. They should have been firm from the start IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 "The board know my position" Midfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 We have 2 options don't we. Get some more cash in for him or keep him and watch him drop in value, get demotivated and end up on the bench running down an expensive contract. This Club should stand up to the players rubbish only works before a precident has been set with the rest of the first team stars. We can't expect MS to just hang around on the off chance we replace 5 quality first team players on a like for like basis can we? He's just broken into the France first team setup and is currently at a club with a squad fit for a relegation scrap. So what do we owe Schneiderlin? Do you want us to sell him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 Hardly surprised, Morgan was always going to strain saints resolve to keep him with a public attack, no doubt followed by a transfer request. I have no sympathy for Morgan, acting with zero care for damage to club he's trying to inflict. Saints have been good to him and he doesn't have right to walk away at his choosing. Stay strong saints, as you should have before others such as shaw and chambers forced their way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 No win situation for the club Sell players: get stick from fans and media Dont sell: get stick from players and Batman Stop talking sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 "The board know my position" Doesn't mean they have to accept it. I thought you were one of the people saying the club should put their foot down with want away players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 "The board know my position" So do we, just in front of our back four, whoever the hell they will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 Doesn't mean they have to accept it. I thought you were one of the people saying the club should put their foot down with want away players? No, don't think so... too late for that, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guan 2.0 Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 "Jay Rodriguez and Morgan Schneiderlin will be in our line-up as we move into next season," Krueger told BBC Radio Solent. "They will not be sold." Only part worth anything. Compromise... only worked out in last 24 hours. Probably a good idea to have told Morgan first. Now even that is in doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 Also I'd much prefer an unhappy Morgan than to lose the next set of dominoes(clyne/wanyama etc) by showing utter weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 Sod this I am off to the Winchester and going to wait for this to all blow over ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 "The board know my position" And now he knows the board's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block34 Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 We have 2 options don't we. Get some more cash in for him or keep him and watch him drop in value, get demotivated and end up on the bench running down an expensive contract and? we would pay him anyway. This Club should stand up to the players rubbish only works before a precident has been set with the rest of the first team stars. We can't expect MS to just hang around on the off chance we replace 5 quality first team players on a like for like basis can we? yes, of course we can He's just broken into the France first team setup and is currently at a club with a squad fit for a relegation scrap. Sorry, butthe club comes first not an individual prima donna - he should be very careful over his next move or it could be the end of his international adventures He is under contract to us - it really is as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 The club really can't win can they? if they put their foot down they are being unfair to the player. If they let the player go they are incompetent. WTF are they supposed to do? they started the domino though.... why didn't they bring two in quick and show our intent before alloing the two teenagers to go for 48m which we aren't top 4 and that could massively boost our squad. They've handled it all wrong and are now trying to fire fight a forest fire with a hose pipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 Poor from both the club & the player to be honest Club/Player communication is obviously poor Player Professionalism is Obviously poor A **** situation for the whole of SFC. The bored need to take responsibility for setting a president that they've since gone back on. Fans need to understand, clearly, that the power is with the players. This shows how ****ing **** modern football is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich102 Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 This is where Ralph sinks or swims Ralph is already fish food. Utter insanity to make bull**** promises knowing players weren't on board. There'll be days more crisis PR coming our way. Utter utter amateurs. And to be honest if anyone has earned a move of the 6/7 its Schneiderlin. A ridiculous place to draw a line in the sand. We're fu**ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 They can't win now because they set the original precedent. They should have been firm from the start IMO. So they shouldn't be firm now? You think the damage is done and they should let everyone else leave because they have let others leave? It's weird how the posters who have been most upset about the player sales now seem to think we should let Morgan walk because we already let some other leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 I reckon the club have pulled the plug at the last min on a sale of morgan due to the monumental amount of crap they are getting from all directions and decided to take a stance.........and morgan first heard about it the same time we did Wrong Morgan was at the stadium today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 meanwhile roos barkley turns down man city to sign a new contract at everton how on earth did they ever manage that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 Are you talking about Morgan or Batman? Lol. Or Ralph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 So they shouldn't be firm now? You think the damage is done and they should let everyone else leave because they have let others leave? It's weird how the posters who have been most upset about the player sales now seem to think we should let Morgan walk because we already let some other leave? if anything, you are weird for not seeing that is it an absolute mess, depsite what fans say on here and how they say it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 So what do we owe Schneiderlin? Do you want us to sell him? We owe him the respect he's shown us in 6 years of unwavering service from bottom of League 1 to 8th in the prem. The club can't match his ambition so he leaves. No, I don't want him to leave but we don't always get what we want. Put it this way, if I worked for a company for 6 years helping it to build up from a lowly base then watched poor boardroom management come in and sell a huge amount of talent around me, I'd start taking those calls from recruitment agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 I reckon the club have pulled the plug at the last min on a sale of morgan due to the monumental amount of crap they are getting from all directions and decided to take a stance.........and morgan first heard about it the same time we did Agree. It seems very strange that you get "he can go for £27m", news outlets reporting that he is going, that he and JRod combined are £35m or £50m. Seems all very specific. I suspect that Les Reed has been usurped and the sale that he probably sanctioned has been pulled by those on high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 So they shouldn't be firm now? You think the damage is done and they should let everyone else leave because they have let others leave? It's weird how the posters who have been most upset about the player sales now seem to think we should let Morgan walk because we already let some other leave? It's hard for the club to be firm now when you consider they let Shaw, Lallana, Lovren and Chambers all get their own way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 So they shouldn't be firm now? You think the damage is done and they should let everyone else leave because they have let others leave? It's weird how the posters who have been most upset about the player sales now seem to think we should let Morgan walk because we already let some other leave? I think it is pretty hypocritical of the club to say we don't want players here who don't want to be here and then to refuse to let these two have their move. Especially because my strong suspicion is we were going to let them move until we saw the fallout from the chambers sale. I never said we should let morgan leave. I can just see why he is annoyed about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 Only part worth anything. Compromise... only worked out in last 24 hours. Probably a good idea to have told Morgan first. Now even that is in doubt. All of that is pretty clear from today's events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 theres the get out of jail free card the board waned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 they started the domino though.... why didn't they bring two in quick and show our intent before alloing the two teenagers to go for 48m which we aren't top 4 and that could massively boost our squad. They've handled it all wrong and are now trying to fire fight a forest fire with a hose pipe. So what they should just let the fire burn? The club has to lay down a marker somewhere. I'm sure it sucks for Morgan and his dream move to spurs but just because we've let players go already no reason to just let the rest leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 What a **** situation. But anyone feeling sorry for Morgan not getting his move is a mentalist. You sound like battered wives saying you deserved the last punch. He signed a contract. With his name. The same name on his bank account. I couldn't give a **** that his 'friends' have all left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 RE: Ralph and club statement http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?51167-The-mess-we-re-in&p=2006174#post2006174 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 We owe him the respect he's shown us in 6 years of unwavering service from bottom of League 1 to 8th in the prem. The club can't match his ambition so he leaves. No, I don't want him to leave but we don't always get what we want. Put it this way, if I worked for a company for 6 years helping it to build up from a lowly base then watched poor boardroom management come in and sell a huge amount of talent around me, I'd start taking those calls from recruitment agents. Bôllox. We can and do match his ambition, hence why he was happy enough to sign a 4 year contract. Don't start trying to bring out the ambition shït. It's a very weak argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 theres the get out of jail free card the board waned totally agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich102 Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 An outburst on Twitter from his personal account. Yep but it's clear that he's done everything else behind the scenes and in the right way. We've left him no option. He's been here 6 years ffs, and we're denying him the chance to play at the top level and triple (or more) his wages. No sympathy with Lovren etc, but this is shoddy on our part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 Morgan has just broken into the France squad. The board must do everything they can to keep him there by buying replacements that are good enough. Nothing else will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 if anything, you are weird for not seeing that is it an absolute mess, depsite what fans say on here and how they say it So you think they should sell Morgan yes or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 "The board know my position" He now knows the board's position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 Bôllox. We can and do match his ambition, hence why he was happy enough to sign a 4 year contract. Don't start trying to bring out the ambition shït. It's a very weak argument. Do you think Morgan would look out of place in the latter stages of the Champions League? If so, we fundamentally disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 So you think they should sell Morgan yes or no? no, I will also add that we should never have been incompetent to a level to make us an absolute mess you are asking these questions in a black or white and with no context of the whole summer, sort of way Why has Ross barkley not on the verge of a strike as he rejects city and signs a new contract at everton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 It's hard for the club to be firm now when you consider they let Shaw, Lallana, Lovren and Chambers all get their own way. Yeah it'll be hard to slam the floodgates shut after leaving them open so long. Better than leaving them open and the good ship saints sinking to the bottom of the ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 I think it is pretty hypocritical of the club to say we don't want players here who don't want to be here and then to refuse to let these two have their move. Especially because my strong suspicion is we were going to let them move until we saw the fallout from the chambers sale. I never said we should let morgan leave. I can just see why he is annoyed about it. Maybe it's just me but I don't care if the club are being c unts to Morgan we've sold enough players time to put the foot down. Do you want Morgan sold yes or No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestrian Saint Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 Wake up. He was gone a long time before RK have that interview today. Ralph is a lying ****. Lied about no bids for Lallana, Shaw etc. when there were offers on the table. Has lied about Morgan and JRod not being sold. They're both going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 (edited) Yep but it's clear that he's done everything else behind the scenes and in the right way. We've left him no option. He's been here 6 years ffs, and we're denying him the chance to play at the top level and triple (or more) his wages. No sympathy with Lovren etc, but this is shoddy on our part. He's denied himself a move (which may still happen anyway) by signing a contract extension last year. And at the top-level? We're talking Tottenham here. Edited 29 July, 2014 by Donatello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 We owe him the respect he's shown us in 6 years of unwavering service from bottom of League 1 to 8th in the prem. The club can't match his ambition so he leaves. No, I don't want him to leave but we don't always get what we want. Put it this way, if I worked for a company for 6 years helping it to build up from a lowly base then watched poor boardroom management come in and sell a huge amount of talent around me, I'd start taking those calls from recruitment agents. So you do think we should sell Schneiderlin, fair enough. Why is he not getting respect? He's got a well paid contract that he was happy to sign and has the opportunity to grow and develop his career with the club - he's done as well out of the club as the club has done out of him. If the club and him reach an agreement for his sale then fine, if they don't he should get on with the job he s contracted to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 So what they should just let the fire burn? The club has to lay down a marker somewhere. I'm sure it sucks for Morgan and his dream move to spurs but just because we've let players go already no reason to just let the rest leave. might aswell now they've acted too late we are in the ****e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 Already posted on Twitter; almost certainly going to be ripped off and reposted by some soft c**t on Twitter/here trying to get social media cred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 Only part worth anything. Compromise... only worked out in last 24 hours. Probably a good idea to have told Morgan first. Now even that is in doubt. That sounds like they'll let him go in the January window but he stays for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 Do you think Morgan would look out of place in the latter stages of the Champions League? If so, we fundamentally disagree. Sorry, but I don't give two hoots about the CL and whether our players think that that is their natural place to be. If he thought that, then he shouldn't have signed that contract. Life's a ***** sometimes, but you have to live by the decisions and actions you make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Abroad Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 Arsenal still interesting in Morgan Morgan feels he has served his time since he has been here for 6 years Talks were held about morgan leaving and the club have since changed their stance Morgans agent believes the club are playing a game in order to get more money. expect more from morgan in the next 48 hours club/fans should be worried as morgan is the last sort that would cause trouble, something is wrong at the club one hell of a mess at the club. these players have had serious interest in them in the last 12-18 months yet none have been so vocal in wanting to leave. Needs to ask why the interest this summer is not new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 Parting gift from Cortese? "Look Im off lads this new lot are putting the brakes on the champions league I'd all do one in summer if I was you" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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