CB Saint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I'm enjoying Liverpool's struggles as much as anyone else, but Raheem Sterling is a damn good player. And he's only 20 (same age as JWP). Sterling is alright providing you accept that defensively he is going to do nowt. Several times the Basel fullback just ran past him with the ball and he just stood and watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I notice Rodgers is blaming the ref lol. If you see the incident Markovic looked back to see where the player was and then threw his arm in his direction.Definite intent to hurt IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 And that's exactly how the big clubs, UEFA and sky want it. A closed shop with the biggest clubs playing in the champions league which will effectively be the European super league that's been touted about for years. They don't want anyone gate crashing their party. I remember when people on here told us FFP was a good thing for us, when anyone with any sense knew it wasn't. Weren't they know as the G14 or something like ( which doesn't include Chelsea)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I notice Rodgers is blaming the ref lol. If you see the incident Markovic looked back to see where the player was and then threw his arm in his direction.Definite intent to hurt IMO This. Yes minimal contact but that was just lucky, he clearly aimed to catch him for some wild unknown reason. Players get sent off for two footed tackles that the opposition guy manages to jump over, same principle Not a peep about this from Rodgers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 10 December, 2014 Author Share Posted 10 December, 2014 It's just another TV deal. Spurs and Liverpool have shown it is easy to spunk £100m away. City fans don't seem too enamoured and Galatasaray was half empty although to be expected with nothing riding on it. Still a massive draw but national league will always appeal to fans more than European super league. And commonly thought that BT have massively overpaid for CL rights Quite. Shhhhhssshhh! Don't let on that the CL is actually rather dull and and a turn-off for the majority of the competition! And for heaven's sake don't let it get out that it's just not as popular with Joe Public as the TV and vested interests make out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 This. Yes minimal contact but that was just lucky, he clearly aimed to catch him for some wild unknown reason. Players get sent off for two footed tackles that the opposition guy manages to jump over, same principle Not a peep about this from Rodgers Yes, contact is irrelevant. The wording is "strike or attempt to strike" and there was definitely intent in his actions. He might well have caught his opponent in the eye, not very nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I was chatting to a Man City fan who has supported them for over 40 years after our recent effort against them. Apparently they cannot get excited about the CL, and they hate the Champions League anthem when it is played, as it reminds them of years of United on the TV !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 The trouble with the Champions league is the league section is dull and predictable all the big clubs are kept apart meaning they qualify easily after thrashing a couple of minnows the juicy games don't kick off until the knockout phase. So really we should be thanking Liverhampton for providing some entertaining thrills this season by failing to stuff the little boys and going home early well beaten by a much better setup team. Adam would have had a better view of that debacle if he'd stayed at Saints the TV coverage offers a much better viewing experience than the bench. No idea what Rodgers was doing when he took Rickie off, the media should be tearing him apart for such tactical suicide but the Liverpool/Rodgers luv in still seems to have some legs yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 . No idea what Rodgers was doing when he took Rickie off, the media should be tearing him apart for such tactical suicide but the Liverpool/Rodgers luv in still seems to have some legs yet! not happening really is it. had AvB or someone not so fashionable been like this with liverpool, they would have been torn to pieces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 not happening really is it. had AvB or someone not so fashionable been like this with liverpool, they would have been torn to pieces Imagine if Roy Hodgson had made such an odd decision the Liverpool fans would have gone mental and the press then torn him to shreds. It is such a weird double standards thing as Roy Hodgson has actually had some success in his career! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 10 December, 2014 Author Share Posted 10 December, 2014 (edited) I just can't understand how such a div as Brenda doesn't get more grief. As for "fashionable" - thats plain risible. He's achieved nothing, lucked out with Suarez, and looks like a failed washing machine salesman. But, it has started to turn in earnest against him and the club - this are scathing assessments: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/picturegalleries/11284607/Liverpools-woeful-summer-signings-ranked-and-reviewed.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11284410/Liverpools-problems-Delusions-of-grandeur-transfer-duds-and-failure-to-fix-clear-flaws-in-the-squad.html Edited 10 December, 2014 by adrian lord add link to excoriating critiques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I just can't understand how such a div as Brenda doesn't get more grief. As for "fashionable" - thats plain risible. He's achieved nothing, lucked out with Suarez, and looks like a failed washing machine salesman. But, it has started to turn in earnest against him and the club - this are scathing assessments: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/picturegalleries/11284607/Liverpools-woeful-summer-signings-ranked-and-reviewed.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11284410/Liverpools-problems-Delusions-of-grandeur-transfer-duds-and-failure-to-fix-clear-flaws-in-the-squad.html great article. you have to ask, what was the point in signing markovic AND lallana they came 2nd in the league, they sold suarez, so should have only needed 4 players (maybe 5 including a 3rd choice lambert) instead, they bought 8 or so. what was the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 [/QUOT LOVREN SITTING ON THE CORNER FLAG AFTER THE FINAL WHISTLE SINGING "I CAN"T GET NO SATISFACTION" TO HIMSELF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 This. Yes minimal contact but that was just lucky, he clearly aimed to catch him for some wild unknown reason. Players get sent off for two footed tackles that the opposition guy manages to jump over, same principle Not a peep about this from Rodgers Obviously, it isn't exactly the same but: If Markovic had the guy buy the collar and swung a punch at him, but the other guy ducked out the way. You would still expect a red to be shown. The point being, it is intent that counts. Markovic looked for the man having got clear of him, and then swung a hand (granted limply) toward the other players (I forget his name, sorry) face. Harsh? Possibly, but I can totally understand why he got a red. Besides, Lovren was lucky to stay on the pitch shortly after anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 great article. you have to ask, what was the point in signing markovic AND lallana they came 2nd in the league, they sold suarez, so should have only needed 4 players (maybe 5 including a 3rd choice lambert) instead, they bought 8 or so. what was the point? The plan was to compete for the premier league title and go on an extended CL run for which you need big squads. As it happens they are competing on neither front but will need the big squad for the Europa in a last desperate push for a CL spot. They are already making huge losses, with all these new players on big wages they could be in a spot of bother and have to deal with another period of mid table stagnation as funds become tight. Liverpool fans may very soon have to drastically adjust their expectations and if nothing else it promises to be hilarious to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Graham Poll wrote that it was a red all day long and the ref had a good game. He said amount of contact or even no contact is irrelevant. Swing an arm like that and its red. End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 http://talksport.com/football/liverpool-fans-react-reds-appalling-new-signings-141210128181 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I just can't understand how such a div as Brenda doesn't get more grief. As for "fashionable" - thats plain risible. He's achieved nothing, lucked out with Suarez, and looks like a failed washing machine salesman. But, it has started to turn in earnest against him and the club - this are scathing assessments: /SNIP/ Critical assessments under The Guardian match report too, and admitting that Basle were better.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I was amazed that ITV seemed to think the entire country wanted Liverpool to win. Most people i know cant stand them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 great article. you have to ask, what was the point in signing markovic AND lallana they came 2nd in the league, they sold suarez, so should have only needed 4 players (maybe 5 including a 3rd choice lambert) instead, they bought 8 or so. what was the point? Don't know why they didn't go for Sanchez and/or Fabregas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Don't know why they didn't go for Sanchez and/or Fabregas. They did go for Sanchez, wanted him as part of the Suarez deal, but Sanchez wanted to play for Arsenal. Whether it was Arsenal the team, or London, that drew him, but either way he was not interested in the scousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 They did go for Sanchez, wanted him as part of the Suarez deal, but Sanchez wanted to play for Arsenal. Whether it was Arsenal the team, or London, that drew him, but either way he was not interested in the scousers I am fairly sure that it was reported to be a London thing. People who live in/around Manchester/Liverpool might well think that their cities are lovely, but to a foreign player, London is so much more of a pull, ESPECIALLY when they have wives/girlfriends and family in tow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 LOVREN SITTING ON THE CORNER FLAG AFTER THE FINAL WHISTLE SINGING "I CAN"T GET NO SATISFACTION" TO HIMSELF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 The continuing debacle at Anfield is one of the highlights of the season for me. How badly does Brenda now rate AL if he can't even get a minute of game time in a MUST WIN situation and everybody playing like total knobs? Probably the last CL (non) appearance for AL ... do you get excited watching the mighty Liverpool team from the bench, the stuff dreams are made of, was it really worth it? I guess your bank manager will say Yes, so that is all that matters then. Despite all of Lovren's @YNWA hashtags he has become one of the most disliked players at Anfield on message boards. OK not the best barometer to use (if anything like here!!) but you'll not get an ounce of sympathy from any Saints fans, and the pair of them will have to hope that Brenda doesn't pick them at St Mary's, although an early Sun KO may result in a less vitriolic homecoming. Still feel sorry for SRL at the way he has been treated by Brenda. Not picked for ages and then not enough game time to get up to speed and playing in a team devoid of anybody to link up with or playing tactics to suit his strengths. Spiritual home coming, sadly more like elephants graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 great article. you have to ask, what was the point in signing markovic AND lallana they came 2nd in the league, they sold suarez, so should have only needed 4 players (maybe 5 including a 3rd choice lambert) instead, they bought 8 or so. what was the point? How times and opinions change!! According to you and that great strawman warrior CB Fry anyone who back in the summer questioned why Lallana was going to Liverpool needed their head examining. Lallana was a great player and anybody who questioned him making an impact at Liverpool was showing him great disrespect. I think that CB Fry even reckoned that questioning Lallana at Liverpool was showing great disrespect to our academy !! According to you 2 Brains of Britains there was no way that Lallana would be sitting on Liverpool's bench this season. Don't you know that "Lallana was in the PL team of the season" - well I think you know that as you reminded us of this constantly in the summer. How opinions change!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 This Christmas I'm asking Santa for Lallana and Lovren to be shipped out on loan to some Championship club. Failing that for the Skates to put in a measily offer for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 How times and opinions change!! According to you and that great strawman warrior CB Fry anyone who back in the summer questioned why Lallana was going to Liverpool needed their head examining. Lallana was a great player and anybody who questioned him making an impact at Liverpool was showing him great disrespect. I think that CB Fry even reckoned that questioning Lallana at Liverpool was showing great disrespect to our academy !! According to you 2 Brains of Britains there was no way that Lallana would be sitting on Liverpool's bench this season. Don't you know that "Lallana was in the PL team of the season" - well I think you know that as you reminded us of this constantly in the summer. How opinions change!!! at what point have I said lallana was a poor signing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I was amazed that ITV seemed to think the entire country wanted Liverpool to win. Most people i know cant stand them. Adrian Chiles at full time 'that was painful viewing even for the neutral'. It was anything but, it was hilariously entertaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Adrian Chiles at full time 'that was painful viewing even for the neutral'. It was anything but, it was hilariously entertaining Agreed. How can we let them know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Agreed. How can we let them know? Absolutely anyone that posts on this particular thread is not neutral by a long stretch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 at what point have I said lallana was a poor signing? So you think that Lallana was a good signing for Liverpool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 In the aftermath of their exit, I'm sure I saw somewhere that Rodgers is asking for funds and that the squad needs strengthening. It does beg the question as to what the hell he was doing this summer. I think things are going to get nice and nasty. Gerrard owns a big sharp knife, and will start sizing up the space between Rodgers' shoulder blades pretty soon. He's already fired a couple of nice opening salvos and it's clear that Stevie G reckons the best man to replace Rodgers is none other than Stevie G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 I'm enjoying Liverpool's struggles as much as anyone else, but Raheem Sterling is a damn good player. And he's only 20 (same age as JWP). I agree he's a good player ( for a 20 y.o.) and his attacking runs are very good, but he doesn't seem to be a "team player " yet and too often his short passing goes astray. L'pool will end up giving him £100K /week contract, (they can't afford to lose him after Svarez departure) but I ask myself what sort of player will he become in 2 years?..and that's more uncertain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Raheem Sterling = Aaron Lennon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 So you think that Lallana was a good signing for Liverpool? of course he is as for liverpool. So many people in the media will refuse to blame rogers in any real way. No real criticism of him. Had this been Roy, AvB or someone the media do not like too much (at club level)...they would be getting hell in the press right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 of course he is as for liverpool. So many people in the media will refuse to blame rogers in any real way. No real criticism of him. Had this been Roy, AvB or someone the media do not like too much (at club level)...they would be getting hell in the press right now Such a good signing that he is sitting on the bench all through the match when they need a win. What a waste of £25 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Such a good signing that he is sitting on the bench all through the match when they need a win. What a waste of £25 million that is a failing of brentan rogers rather than his ability the same reason coutinho get regularly dropped and he had henderson playing left hand side the other night. or rogers plays lambert as an isolated, lone striker with lallana and coutinho on the bench....etc lallana was rightly so, in the team of the season last year and at times was completely unplayable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 that is a failing of brentan rogers rather than his ability the same reason coutinho get regularly dropped and he had henderson playing left hand side the other night. or rogers plays lambert as an isolated, lone striker with lallana and coutinho on the bench....etc lallana was rightly so, in the team of the season last year and at times was completely unplayable He is completely unplayable where he is currently sat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 If Liverpool went with something like Lucas - Can Coutinho/Sterling - Henderson - Lallana Lambert/Sturridge They would probably do all right IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 that is a failing of brentan rogers rather than his ability the same reason coutinho get regularly dropped and he had henderson playing left hand side the other night. or rogers plays lambert as an isolated, lone striker with lallana and coutinho on the bench....etc lallana was rightly so, in the team of the season last year and at times was completely unplayable I don't disagree with your assessment of Lallana last season .... but I never thought he would fit into the Liverpool team and so far I think I am being proved right. He was a big fish in a small pool when he was here. The team was built around him. He was never going to get the same treatment at Liverpool and his career is suffering because of it. I think that he is more likely to find himself at another "smallish" club and within a couple of years can see him somewhere like Norwich, Sunderland or Stoke. We will just have to agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 I don't disagree with your assessment of Lallana last season .... but I never thought he would fit into the Liverpool team and so far I think I am being proved right. He was a big fish in a small pool when he was here. The team was built around him. He was never going to get the same treatment at Liverpool and his career is suffering because of it. I think that he is more likely to find himself at another "smallish" club and within a couple of years can see him somewhere like Norwich, Sunderland or Stoke. We will just have to agree to disagree. He will be at Boscombe next season when they are promoted to PL, returning to his spiritual home (on loan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 He will be at Boscombe next season when they are promoted to PL, returning to his spiritual home (on loan) Good call - especially if they get promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Such a good signing that he is sitting on the bench all through the match when they need a win. What a waste of £25 million Rodgers may have bought him, but he hasn't sold himself .....on the idea of Adam's skill. He still prefers Joe Allan and Coutinho. The success of Adam and Rickie was that they were a partnership, but they've scarcely played half a dozen games together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Spurs and Pochettino's match in Turkey suffering a power cut. Beautiful scene, very Christmasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Speaking to a Scouse work colleague today and he felt that BR was on his way out pretty soon given the return he has got for the money he has spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 a sunderland fan after their game v Liverpool https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1017592724934480 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 a sunderland fan after their game v Liverpool https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1017592724934480 Absolutely brilliant, love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 90 minutes, Spurs losing 1- 0 and 3 minutes extra time. Guess what? The lights go out once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 What are the odds Liverpool will sign Fernando Torres on a FREE to replace Rickie and Bartolli. That would be the LOL to end all LOLS http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/fernando-torres-set-offered-up-4793025 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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