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Liverpool fans want to buy our entire team in January and give us back the players they bought in the summer. Will they ever learn? The draw for the likes of Lallana and Lovren to join them in the summer was the lure of the Champions League. That allure will, quite probably,not exist next season. They really are poor in the transfer market. Suarez and possibly Henderson are their only recent success stories.

 

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=309033.1800

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Liverpool fans want to buy our entire team in January and give us back the players they bought in the summer. Will they ever learn? The draw for the likes of Lallana and Lovren to join them in the summer was the lure of the Champions League. That allure will, quite probably,not exist next season. They really are poor in the transfer market. Suarez and possibly Henderson are their only recent success stories.

 

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=309033.1800

 

It's the team and the internal set-up, not the individual player. They would need to buy the club. £300m should do it.

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http://forums.liverpoolfc.com/threads/364082-Let-s-talk-Lovren/page26

 

well well well. how things have changed lool- from today onwards- they really do want him dropped or even out!

 

At least some on there recognise it's more to do with their ****e midfield that does not provide the protection that VW & MS gave him (similar to this season). It was noticeable at times towards the mid to end of last season that he was left wanting at times - Spurs away springs to mind where they played the ball very wide so in effect by passing VW & MS down the wings and thereby exposing Lovren on more occasions than was the norm against us last season.

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“There is no chance of us bringing in a defensive coach,” Rodgers said. “..I think it is just a lack of coaching time that is hurting us. We need to reinforce

basic principles at defensive set pieces, but we know that already. We have to get better and we will be working on it.

The Guardian - 24/10/14

 

That's going well floor.gif

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Heard an interesting snippet about Shaw the other day. Seems the rumours about his attitude towards his fitness are true, we'd been worried about him for some time and were happy for him to be Man Utd's problem as we were getting tired of trying to keep him in check.

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Looks like Luke is starting to settle in, the United fans are raving about him.

 

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/luke-shaw-2014-2015-performances.393994/page-39

 

They're finally seeing his qualities that we've seen for the last two seasons, especially his defensive ones. A bargain at £30million for 15+ years, assuming no terrible injuries. Might even get a look in ahead of Baines now that he's at Man U!

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Heard an interesting snippet about Shaw the other day. Seems the rumours about his attitude towards his fitness are true, we'd been worried about him for some time and were happy for him to be Man Utd's problem as we were getting tired of trying to keep him in check.

 

Needed a huge kick up the backside, but he is undoubtably quality and will be world class. Perfectly happy with £30m though.

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Is it just me then that thinks Ryan Bertrand, while maybe not having the natural talents of Luke Shaw, seems to be a more effective player for us this season than Shaw was last season. Ryan's attacking play seems far more effective than Shaw's was last season and his defensive qualities don't seem far off Shaw's either.

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Is it just me then that thinks Ryan Bertrand, while maybe not having the natural talents of Luke Shaw, seems to be a more effective player for us this season than Shaw was last season. Ryan's attacking play seems far more effective than Shaw's was last season and his defensive qualities don't seem far off Shaw's either.

No, It's not just you.

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Not hard for a left-back to look incredible against teams that park the bus as hard as Leicester and Palace did. Bertrand and Shaw both had acres of space to go forward. You judge their quality in games where they need to balance attack and defense where their positioning and decisions become crucial.

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Is it just me then that thinks Ryan Bertrand, while maybe not having the natural talents of Luke Shaw, seems to be a more effective player for us this season than Shaw was last season. Ryan's attacking play seems far more effective than Shaw's was last season and his defensive qualities don't seem far off Shaw's either.

 

Not just you.......and I still question Shaw's defensive qualities. (positioning, how to tackle, etc,)

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B17Gw7VIcAE3RJP.png:large

 

“There is no chance of us bringing in a defensive coach,” Rodgers said. “..I think it is just a lack of coaching time that is hurting us. We need to reinforce

basic principles at defensive set pieces, but we know that already. We have to get better and we will be working on it.

The Guardian - 24/10/14

 

That's going well floor.gif

i think there are 4 Chelsea defenders in front of the Liverpool ones lol
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surely he cant be that thick

 

are they everton fans ? or did they just do what most people did who didnt have any assocation with a good team at the time and got on the bandwagon, I dont know background on his dad (he may be an scouser), but to say your an everton fan, then demand to join liverpool, well that says it all and how much of a fan you were

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surely he cant be that thick

 

are they everton fans ? or did they just do what most people did who didnt have any assocation with a good team at the time and got on the bandwagon, I dont know background on his dad (he may be an scouser), but to say your an everton fan, then demand to join liverpool, well that says it all and how much of a fan you were

The father is from Liverpool but told some fans that they were Liverpool fans when AL was looking to join them. To now tell the world that they are Everton fans can't help the cause.

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Saido Berahino prepared to move to a bigger club to fulfill his dreams.

Didn't take so long after his england call-up (were talking days here) to be convinced he MUST be playing for a CL cub asap.

This all sounds familiar to us. But what absolute bu11sh1t !

Maybe he'll demand a move to the second-placed team in the PL. ;)

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There's no doubt about it, he is having a total nightmare. This is right back to his Lyon days, as bad as that.

 

But with us, when he was isolated 1 on 1, he always struggled and was most of the time beaten. (Away at Spurs last season being one example).

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That was the one that sticks with me - He was shocking that game.

 

Thought he was great for us last season, but the way he left us has made me thoroughly enjoy his recent form :)

 

Impossible to forget the impression of two of the best DM's in Europe have though, CB's don't get that protection anywhere else.

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There's no doubt about it, he is having a total nightmare. This is right back to his Lyon days, as bad as that.

 

But with us, when he was isolated 1 on 1, he always struggled and was most of the time beaten. (Away at Spurs last season being one example).

 

You saw much of him in his Lyon days?

 

Seems to be the standard mongboard refrain when nobody actually saw him play, instead going on second-hand truths and half-truths.

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Impossible to forget the impression of two of the best DM's in Europe have though, CB's don't get that protection anywhere else.

 

Some of their fans are waking up to this and finally admitting Gerrard can't provide the defensive midfield cover his postion in the team dictates he should. Ours on the otherhand is stunningly effective.

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Some of their fans are waking up to this and finally admitting Gerrard can't provide the defensive midfield cover his postion in the team dictates he should. Ours on the otherhand is stunningly effective.

 

Thought the midfield three of Lucas, Allen and Can they put out against Real was very stout. Needless to say, Gerrard and for that matter Henderson were nowhere near it.

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I asked my Liverpool supporting mate (from Norfolk I sh*t you not) what he thought of LALAL so far and he called me a smug tuuat and told me to f' off.

 

It's hard to draw conclusions from such a short statement but the general impression I got was that he isn't happy.

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You saw much of him in his Lyon days?

 

Seems to be the standard mongboard refrain when nobody actually saw him play, instead going on second-hand truths and half-truths.

 

Umm, it's not hard to work out is it? I remember watching some of the highlights and he was out of position, caught out, done for pace - there were few on here that were questioning the signing. (not me at the time tbh)

 

Also doesn't take a genius to see the views of the Lyon fans at the time he was sold. They were delighted.

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