Heisenberg Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Id prefer money in the bank though..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Busy on the laptop, dads watching the footy in the background. Made me sick to hear that and look up to see him thumping the badge...as well as hearing his and Manes name over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Yet he’s taken them from below us after we gave them a hiding to comfortably above us into the top half... We were 4 points ahead of Everton on 26th Nov after we beat them. They are 7 points ahead now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Why do people spend so much time and effort worrying about players that have left. Couldn’t care less what they do. Concentrate on the players at our club ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Yet he’s taken them from below us after we gave them a hiding to comfortably above us into the top half... I wouldn’t say they’re out of relegation trouble just yet. Unlikely but not out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Maybe we should just shut up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 It is ****ing depressing watching half our old team playing in this knowing we’re probably be in the Championship next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 I wouldn’t say they’re out of relegation trouble just yet. Unlikely but not out of the question. If Everton are in relegation danger this season (in any sense) then we were last year, something which was vehemently denied by all on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 This match is an exceptionally uncomfortable watch thinking where we could have been had Katarina been willing to properly invest for growth of our football club instead of priming it for selling. And don’t say it could not have happened because Man City have made something happen from relatively little because of genuine ambition by rich owners and stretching within (and beyond when it got them further) the rules to work for them. Now we are among the favourites for relegation. Nice one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Oh don't be stupid Daft K. We can never match the likes of Liverpool on wages. And that is all you need to know. So stow the what ifs, it just isn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Oh don't be stupid Daft K. We can never match the likes of Liverpool on wages. And that is all you need to know. So stow the what ifs, it just isn't the case. Its never been about just money. Look at Spurs. And why Lallana, Morgan ect all stayed while Cortese was here. If its easier for you to believe its simply just money then ignore me and pop the head back in the sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 They can offer whatever wages they like, he’ll never win a meaningful trophy there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Oh don't be stupid Daft K. We can never match the likes of Liverpool on wages. And that is all you need to know. So stow the what ifs, it just isn't the case. Read his post though. He’s lamenting the fact that we had an owner more interested in priming us for sale than investing - Man City are a similar size club to us historically and they attracted a benevolent owner whereas we unfortunately didn’t get one with the means or the desire to push us on. Obviously we could never have kept the players under this leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Id prefer money in the bank though..... Well you are a banker aren’t you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint93 Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 He’s breezed through that match and was back to his best, proves he wasn’t bothered about trying for us this season. Painful to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Read his post though. He’s lamenting the fact that we had an owner more interested in priming us for sale than investing - Man City are a similar size club to us historically and they attracted a benevolent owner whereas we unfortunately didn’t get one with the means or the desire to push us on. Obviously we could never have kept the players under this leadership. Location probably played a part in that too- Manchester is bigger than Southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Id prefer money in the bank though..... Unfortunately,that's where most of it will remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Read his post though. He’s lamenting the fact that we had an owner more interested in priming us for sale than investing - Man City are a similar size club to us historically and they attracted a benevolent owner whereas we unfortunately didn’t get one with the means or the desire to push us on. Obviously we could never have kept the players under this leadership. Are you taking the ****? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Unfortunately,that's where most of it will remain. F**k it. Exciting, fast football and wins are overrated. We dont buy success, we breed it. #WeMarchOn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 My missus can't understand why I am in such a foul mood now ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Its never been about just money. Look at Spurs. And why Lallana, Morgan ect all stayed while Cortese was here. If its easier for you to believe its simply just money then ignore me and pop the head back in the sand. Your first point - Spurs are still paying their players up to and just over £100k a week, but aside from that they came close to winning the league twice which is why players have stuck around, plus Champions League football. See how long they stick around if they finish outside the top 4 this season. Second point - Lallana and Morgan stayed around under Cortese for one and a half season in the Prem. It was only after that they had proven themselves as capable that they wanted to leave. If they'd kicked up a fuss after our first season in the Prem, no top club would have come to their rescue. TL;DR - F*ck off you *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 ffs they are all ****ing off now over VVD. so angry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 He’s breezed through that match and was back to his best, proves he wasn’t bothered about trying for us this season. Painful to watch Jamie Carragher had him sussed a couple of weeks ago on Sky when he analysed his performances for us. He never dud anything obvious but there was a distinct lack of effort. ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 F**k it. Exciting, fast football and wins are overrated. We dont buy success, we breed it. #WeMarchOn Look mate, I have a friend who is (was) a huge Montreal Canadiens fan. Their current general manger (same position as Les) is a bumbling fool, he’s ruined a team capable of winning the cup. My friend is boycotting the Canadiens until that chump leaves. Maybe you could try something similar, it’s not a great id a to risk your health over this. My friend is feeling much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Christ it never rains it pours being a saints fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Read his post though. He’s lamenting the fact that we had an owner more interested in priming us for sale than investing - Man City are a similar size club to us historically and they attracted a benevolent owner . ****ing heard it all now. City have always been a bigger club than us, even pre money. How old are you 11? They won a European trophy , 2league titles , 4 Fa cups , 2 league cups before the primer league existed, you plum Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 wonder how he is feeling about Mohamed Salah stealing all his thunder at Liverpool and now being named African player of the year... Quite, Salah is top drawer as well. Mane looks a fairly relaxed bloke to me - probably good competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 I can't stop being sick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Scored the winner in a cup tie against a club I don't particularly like anyway, big whoop. Personally I can't be arsed getting annoyed about a player who couldn't be arsed to play for a team who can't be arsed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 I just want our Manager to become a defector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 ****ing heard it all now. City have always been a bigger club than us, even pre money. How old are you 11? They won a European trophy , 2league titles , 4 Fa cups , 2 league cups before the primer league existed, you plum Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I must have dreamt them being down in the old division two (like we were), coming up through the Championship (like we did) and then finishing mid table in the Prem for years before being jettisoned into the Champions League. There are plenty of clubs that have won more trophies than we have if that’s all you put it down to (Pompey for one, would you be calling someone a plum for saying we were a bigger club than the Skates?) My point was that, before they were bought, City were a club of very similar stature and with very similar recent history. I take the point that Manchester is a more attractive location but do you honestly believe that an Arab sheik bought Manchester City because they won the Cup Winners Cup in 1970? I don’t think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 I wouldn’t say they’re out of relegation trouble just yet. Unlikely but not out of the question. They are miles out of it... There is no way us, West Brom or Swansea will get within 6 points of them by the end of the season let alone get in front of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 wonder how he is feeling about Mohamed Salah stealing all his thunder at Liverpool and now being named African player of the year... I imagine he wishes he was back at St Marys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 Scored the winner in a cup tie against a club I don't particularly like anyway, big whoop. Personally I can't be arsed getting annoyed about a player who couldn't be arsed to play for a team who can't be arsed. There’s too much other irritating stuff going on at Saints right now on to be irritated by this. At some point he’ll pull a Lovren, and if my schadenfreudascope notices it, I will enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 5 January, 2018 Share Posted 5 January, 2018 I must have dreamt them being down in the old division two (like we were), coming up through the Championship (like we did) and then finishing mid table in the Prem for years before being jettisoned into the Champions League. There are plenty of clubs that have won more trophies than we have if that’s all you put it down to (Pompey for one, would you be calling someone a plum for saying we were a bigger club than the Skates?) My point was that, before they were bought, City were a club of very similar stature and with very similar recent history. I take the point that Manchester is a more attractive location but do you honestly believe that an Arab sheik bought Manchester City because they won the Cup Winners Cup in 1970? I don’t think so. Bet you struggle to understand why players leave us for Spurs because we are every bit as big as them right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 6 January, 2018 Share Posted 6 January, 2018 Bet you struggle to understand why players leave us for Spurs because we are every bit as big as them right? Not really relevant to the point that’s being debated is it ? Did you miss the part of my original post where I admitted to it being impossible for us to keep players from other clubs under our current regime? If we had a rich owner like City we’d be able to keep players but we don’t, the point I made was that it could easily have been us taken over by a very rich Arab Sheik given that, at the time they were taken over, both clubs had a very similar recent history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 6 January, 2018 Author Share Posted 6 January, 2018 Let's pray Liverpool win **** all for another few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 6 January, 2018 Share Posted 6 January, 2018 Not really relevant to the point that’s being debated is it ? Did you miss the part of my original post where I admitted to it being impossible for us to keep players from other clubs under our current regime? If we had a rich owner like City we’d be able to keep players but we don’t, the point I made was that it could easily have been us taken over by a very rich Arab Sheik given that, at the time they were taken over, both clubs had a very similar recent history. I wouldn’t want us to spend money like Man City. I loathe them because of it. They’re not smaller than us (lol), but in my lifetime they had been a mid-table team at best who suddenly had cheat mode enabled. Surely when you taste victory you want to feel like you’ve earned it through harder work, or smarter choices than your opponents. It’d be like me getting a 90m head start in the 100m and then showing off I had an Olympic gold medal. I do agree with Daft Kerplunk that having an owner whose first priority wasn’t the success of the team (even if it was linked), with directors who seem hellbent on overseeing team affairs in order to achieve those priorities for them, has been costly. No matter which way you cut it though, we are in a mess because we appointed the wrong manager and haven’t done anything about it. Our transfers haven’t been too bad really. Sure, could have been better, and the GK situation is laughable, but no bad enough to get us relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 6 January, 2018 Share Posted 6 January, 2018 I wouldn’t want us to spend money like Man City. I loathe them because of it. They’re not smaller than us (lol), but in my lifetime they had been a mid-table team at best who suddenly had cheat mode enabled. Surely when you taste victory you want to feel like you’ve earned it through harder work, or smarter choices than your opponents. It’d be like me getting a 90m head start in the 100m and then showing off I had an Olympic gold medal. I do agree with Daft Kerplunk that having an owner whose first priority wasn’t the success of the team (even if it was linked), with directors who seem hellbent on overseeing team affairs in order to achieve those priorities for them, has been costly. No matter which way you cut it though, we are in a mess because we appointed the wrong manager and haven’t done anything about it. Our transfers haven’t been too bad really. Sure, could have been better, and the GK situation is laughable, but no bad enough to get us relegated. Agree with this - don’t think I ever claimed that we were a bigger club than Man City, my point was that, at the time they were taken over, they were part of a cluster of similar sized clubs and that we had been in an around them in the time which led up to their investment. I misspoke when I said they were similar size to us historically, I meant they were similar to us when they secured the Sheik, not that we had done better than them in the past and certainly not that we are bigger than them now. Shock horror that my original post was largely ignored and that the forum police focused on one statement they disagreed with rather than taking it as a whole (not aimed at you to be fair). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 7 January, 2018 Share Posted 7 January, 2018 Reading all the posts on Twitter about Clyde *allegedly* banned for drug taking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 7 January, 2018 Share Posted 7 January, 2018 What’s Bonnie’s take on it? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 7 January, 2018 Share Posted 7 January, 2018 Agree with this - don’t think I ever claimed that we were a bigger club than Man City, my point was that, at the time they were taken over, they were part of a cluster of similar sized clubs and that we had been in an around them in the time which led up to their investment. I misspoke when I said they were similar size to us historically, I meant they were similar to us when they secured the Sheik, not that we had done better than them in the past and certainly not that we are bigger than them now. Shock horror that my original post was largely ignored and that the forum police focused on one statement they disagreed with rather than taking it as a whole (not aimed at you to be fair). Your original point, if I've read the right post, was that he was lamenting the fact that we didn't get a rich owner. He wasn't, what he was said was that Kat chose a different approach to Man City and could have, if she wanted to, invested to improve the the club like Man City did. Which is complete ********, Man City have spent hundreds of millions to get where they are. They are owned by the ruling family of Abu Dhabi, its laughable to even think that a moderate industrialist from Germany could emulate that. It takes more than desire, it takes a wealth of billions. This discontent is just experienced by moron fans that think this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 7 January, 2018 Share Posted 7 January, 2018 Agree with this - don’t think I ever claimed that we were a bigger club than Man City, my point was that, at the time they were taken over, they were part of a cluster of similar sized clubs and that we had been in an around them in the time which led up to their investment. I misspoke when I said they were similar size to us historically, I meant they were similar to us when they secured the Sheik, not that we had done better than them in the past and certainly not that we are bigger than them now. Shock horror that my original post was largely ignored and that the forum police focused on one statement they disagreed with rather than taking it as a whole (not aimed at you to be fair). Yeah sorry I definitely used a smidgen of your post to go off on a bit of a tangent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 8 January, 2018 Share Posted 8 January, 2018 City also sidestepped fair play rules by massive sponsorship deals from the owners own airline . Kat hasn't got access to even a fraction of the wealth of Cities owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 8 January, 2018 Share Posted 8 January, 2018 Your original point, if I've read the right post, was that he was lamenting the fact that we didn't get a rich owner. He wasn't, what he was said was that Kat chose a different approach to Man City and could have, if she wanted to, invested to improve the the club like Man City did. Which is complete ********, Man City have spent hundreds of millions to get where they are. They are owned by the ruling family of Abu Dhabi, its laughable to even think that a moderate industrialist from Germany could emulate that. It takes more than desire, it takes a wealth of billions. This discontent is just experienced by moron fans that think this way. Wish i was a 'Moderate industrialist'- https://www.bloomberg.com/billionaires/profiles/willi-liebherr/ Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 8 January, 2018 Share Posted 8 January, 2018 Wish i was a 'Moderate industrialist'- https://www.bloomberg.com/billionaires/profiles/willi-liebherr/ Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk That's Willi, not Kat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 13 January, 2018 Share Posted 13 January, 2018 Allegations of racism have been made against J-Rod for gestures he made during today’s Brighton game... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5266447/Pardew-expects-FA-investigation-Rodriguez-racism-claim.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 13 January, 2018 Share Posted 13 January, 2018 Allegations of racism have been made against J-Rod for gestures he made during today’s Brighton game... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5266447/Pardew-expects-FA-investigation-Rodriguez-racism-claim.html Really? Jay Rod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 13 January, 2018 Share Posted 13 January, 2018 Allegations of racism have been made against J-Rod for gestures he made during today’s Brighton game... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5266447/Pardew-expects-FA-investigation-Rodriguez-racism-claim.html Maybe matey had Bo or bad breath? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 13 January, 2018 Share Posted 13 January, 2018 I wish MoPe was In this thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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