Heisenberg Posted 21 November, 2016 Share Posted 21 November, 2016 Will be interesting to see how Liverpool get on. Will be a good indication of how well we could have done if we didn't sell our best player and lose our manager each year. Liverpool are the that ambitious club that we coulda, shoulda been. Thought they'd do well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 21 November, 2016 Share Posted 21 November, 2016 Thought they'd do well Lol every player they have cost like 20 to 30 million pounds...how could we ever have afford to do that whilst keeping our current players on bumper salaries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 Poch looking to go out of the CL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 Poch looking to go out of the CL. .. and straight into the Europa League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 Confirmed. Bloke is a joker. Blew the EL last year and same again in CL. Out of touch with fans. Destined to win nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 .. and straight into the Europa League. They have to avoid losing to CSKA in their last group game to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickierambert Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 Confirmed. Bloke is a joker. Blew the EL last year and same again in CL. Out of touch with fans. Destined to win nothing. Resting a few players as well to concentrate on the league. Sounds familiar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 Confirmed. Bloke is a joker. Blew the EL last year and same again in CL. Out of touch with fans. Destined to win nothing. Might be confirmed in your mind but most, including me, see him as a progressive Manager on an upward career trajectory. Injuries and player fatigue seemed to cost them late last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickierambert Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 Might be confirmed in your mind but most, including me, see him as a progressive Manager on an upward career trajectory. Injuries and player fatigue seemed to cost them late last season. I'd agree but there's some clear managerial trends he's developed over the last 6 or 7 years: -Poor cup performance when it should be a priority -Poor late season form/general exhaustion -Lots of possession but limited penetration -Too many draws Levy can't be happy with their exit in a very manageable group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 Resting a few players as well to concentrate on the league. Sounds familiar I get resting them to begin with. But when you NEED a win to qualify from the group, he should have been going all out for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 I'd agree but there's some clear managerial trends he's developed over the last 6 or 7 years: -Poor cup performance when it should be a priority -Poor late season form/general exhaustion -Lots of possession but limited penetration -Too many draws Levy can't be happy with their exit in a very manageable group Yes, probably right. Poch's high pressing style does seem to catch up with player fitness as the season goes on, and the player rotation/resting issue is highly debatable isn't it; just like with SFC at the moment. The other thing with Spurs seems to be the depth of their squad and maybe an over-reliance on Kane. I'm as glad as the next person that they're out of the CL, but the comment about Pochettino being a dud coach/manager as post 5471 was claiming has to be called out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 I get resting them to begin with. But when you NEED a win to qualify from the group, he should have been going all out for it. They can still qualify. They probably won't but they are not out yet. Playing at Wembley has cost them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 They can still qualify. They probably won't but they are not out yet. Playing at Wembley has cost them. Take it back,they are out on head-to-head rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 (edited) Yes, probably right. Poch's high pressing style does seem to catch up with player fitness as the season goes on, and the player rotation/resting issue is highly debatable isn't it; just like with SFC at the moment. The other thing with Spurs seems to be the depth of their squad and maybe an over-reliance on Kane. I'm as glad as the next person that they're out of the CL, but the comment about Pochettino being a dud coach/manager as post 5471 was claiming has to be called out. He's a very good manager, though I do think he's got a lot more to learn. Managing that late season burn out being the major one. Do the Spuds fans still love him? Edited 23 November, 2016 by Suhari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 23 November, 2016 Share Posted 23 November, 2016 I genuinely don't get working for 38 games to get into a competition you can't then be bothered with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 23 November, 2016 Share Posted 23 November, 2016 Might be confirmed in your mind but most, including me, see him as a progressive Manager on an upward career trajectory. Injuries and player fatigue seemed to cost them late last season. I was taking the pi ss a little bit as clearly done very well. However Spurs fans livid though as were we after the Sunderland FA cup game. Media love in with him though inevitably leads to more overrating him IMO. Came 3rd in a two horse race last year and that takes some doing. And guess what many fans bemoaning no plan B. Play a rested Chelsea at the weekend. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 23 November, 2016 Share Posted 23 November, 2016 I was taking the pi ss a little bit as clearly done very well. However Spurs fans livid though as were we after the Sunderland FA cup game. Media love in with him though inevitably leads to more overrating him IMO. Came 3rd in a two horse race last year and that takes some doing. And guess what many fans bemoaning no plan B. Play a rested Chelsea at the weekend. Good luck. Fair enough Whelk; I missed the pi sstake you intended - no doubt the Pochettino love-in at Spurs is in decline, and as others have noted, his pattern of prioritising the Prem over Cups, Europa and now CL is a risky strategy. There's something about him though that makes me think he will do better than Spurs before his time's up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 23 November, 2016 Share Posted 23 November, 2016 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11675/10668762/tottenham-lack-a-plan-b-and-have-recruited-poorly-says-danny-mills Surely not..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 November, 2016 Share Posted 23 November, 2016 I thought Jansen was an odd striker signing for them, they should have gone for someone small and nippy as an alternative to Kane. They don't have a great record of signing strikers really. They really do miss Toby at the back, i think most teams would to be honest. It seems as if signing Wanyama has totally nullified them in an attacking sense, did they really need him? They played with Dembele as the deepest midfielder last year, but now they're playing Dembele and Wanyama in most games....so they seem to play a lot more cautiously in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 23 November, 2016 Share Posted 23 November, 2016 Lord Sugar (@Lord_Sugar) 23/11/2016, 17:37 BREAKING:Teresa May asks Mauricio Pocchetino to join Government as adviser impressed he managed to get Spurs out of Europe in just 2 months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 23 November, 2016 Share Posted 23 November, 2016 (edited) I thought Jansen was an odd striker signing for them, they should have gone for someone small and nippy as an alternative to Kane. They don't have a great record of signing strikers really. They really do miss Toby at the back, i think most teams would to be honest. It seems as if signing Wanyama has totally nullified them in an attacking sense, did they really need him? They played with Dembele as the deepest midfielder last year, but now they're playing Dembele and Wanyama in most games....so they seem to play a lot more cautiously in the middle. Not sure they particularly miss Toby: clearly it would be better he was fit but their problems are up top and a chronic lack of pace. Janssen and Sissoko have to date been flops. Dembele wasn't their deepest lying midfielder last season: they played Dier, a converted CB, there so Wanyama is basically a replacement/upgrade on him. Dembele was suspended at the start of the season, so they lost some dynamism when Dier and Wanyama played together but that's not been the case for a while. Edited 23 November, 2016 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 24 November, 2016 Share Posted 24 November, 2016 Not sure they particularly miss Toby: clearly it would be better he was fit but their problems are up top and a chronic lack of pace. Janssen and Sissoko have to date been flops. Dembele wasn't their deepest lying midfielder last season: they played Dier, a converted CB, there so Wanyama is basically a replacement/upgrade on him. Dembele was suspended at the start of the season, so they lost some dynamism when Dier and Wanyama played together but that's not been the case for a while. Bloody hell. I didn't know they were in so much trouble. I thought they were in the top 5 and already 10 points ahead of us after the opening 12 games. That lack of pace is clearly killing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 November, 2016 Share Posted 24 November, 2016 Not sure they particularly miss Toby: clearly it would be better he was fit but their problems are up top and a chronic lack of pace. Janssen and Sissoko have to date been flops. Dembele wasn't their deepest lying midfielder last season: they played Dier, a converted CB, there so Wanyama is basically a replacement/upgrade on him. Dembele was suspended at the start of the season, so they lost some dynamism when Dier and Wanyama played together but that's not been the case for a while. Only team not to lose in the league this season aren't they? Defensively they are very solid but take out Kane and they look toothless up front. Surprised they aren't interested in Sturridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 24 November, 2016 Share Posted 24 November, 2016 Only team not to lose in the league this season aren't they? Defensively they are very solid but take out Kane and they look toothless up front. Surprised they aren't interested in Sturridge. It's amazing that Spurs can still compete with us financially. They've got a smaller capacity than us now, their owner is poorer than ours and they're spending at least £750 million on building their new stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 November, 2016 Share Posted 24 November, 2016 It's amazing that Spurs can still compete with us financially. They've got a smaller capacity than us now, their owner is poorer than ours and they're spending at least £750 million on building their new stadium. In fact I'd be amazed if our owner really has more money than Joe Lewis. Lewis actually appears in Forbes list, KL does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 27 November, 2016 Share Posted 27 November, 2016 Psg apparently set to offer 40m and 200k per week for lallana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 27 November, 2016 Share Posted 27 November, 2016 Psg apparently set to offer 40m and 200k per week for lallana Part of me says please let this happen. Another part says who will they raid us for next if it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 27 November, 2016 Share Posted 27 November, 2016 Part of me says please let this happen. Another part says who will they raid us for next if it does. Be ok if it's JWP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 27 November, 2016 Share Posted 27 November, 2016 Psg apparently set to offer 40m and 200k per week for lallana Lets see how the scousers react when he throws a tantrum because Klopp wants to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 27 November, 2016 Share Posted 27 November, 2016 Lets see how the scousers react when he throws a tantrum because Klopp wants to keep him. He won't want to leave Jordan Henderson...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 November, 2016 Share Posted 27 November, 2016 Psg apparently set to offer £40m and 200k per week for lallana Part of me says please let this happen. If it does happen Saints will get a decent % of the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 27 November, 2016 Share Posted 27 November, 2016 If it does happen Saints will get a decent % of the money. Are you certain of that? I don't remember hearing anything about sell on clauses........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 November, 2016 Share Posted 27 November, 2016 Are you certain of that? I don't remember hearing anything about sell on clauses........ They are pretty much standard is most transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 27 November, 2016 Share Posted 27 November, 2016 I think it would be a good thing for Lallana to move to PSG. From a viewpoint of being a supporter of the national team, we need more players to move to Europe's top clubs. PSG can achieve bigger things in the Champions League than Liverpool could ever hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 27 November, 2016 Author Share Posted 27 November, 2016 If it does happen Saints will get a decent % of the money. What's the sell-on %? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 27 November, 2016 Share Posted 27 November, 2016 Poor Spiderman not even on the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 November, 2016 Share Posted 27 November, 2016 Poor Spiderman not even on the bench Morgan has replaced Schweinstiger in Jose purgatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 30 November, 2016 Share Posted 30 November, 2016 Korean on midweek match of the day or whatever it's called tonight ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 30 November, 2016 Share Posted 30 November, 2016 Korean on midweek match of the day or whatever it's called tonight ! Greatest typo ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Koeman's getting a bit of heat for his social media skills. https://twitter.com/RonaldKoeman/with_replies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/12/01/everton-west-brom-launch-battle-sign-man-utd-outcast-morgan/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 WBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 2 December, 2016 Share Posted 2 December, 2016 WBA Instant karma... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 2 December, 2016 Share Posted 2 December, 2016 WBA He'd do well there. But still...not exactly what he left us for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 2 December, 2016 Share Posted 2 December, 2016 He'd do well there. But still...not exactly what he left us for! We would almost certainly return to the 'neutral' Twitter profile and the big lip. What a waste it would be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai27 Posted 2 December, 2016 Share Posted 2 December, 2016 I'd have him back in a heartbeat. Would hate to see him playing for Everton and no disrespect to WBA, but he's better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 December, 2016 Share Posted 2 December, 2016 I'd have him back in a heartbeat. Would hate to see him playing for Everton and no disrespect to WBA, but he's better than that. We'll see. Think he wants to go to Spurs...same as always but Mourinho doesn't want him to go there and will block any new move, as he did in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Force Posted 2 December, 2016 Share Posted 2 December, 2016 Earlier in this thread I asked the question who will be the first defector to leave the club after their big money signing.* I didn't expect it to be Schniederlin as I always saw him as a model professional. *I specifically ruled out Ricky Lambert at that time, due to his age he was never going to stay at Liverpool a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 2 December, 2016 Share Posted 2 December, 2016 I'd have him back in a heartbeat. Would hate to see him playing for Everton and no disrespect to WBA, but he's better than that. Apart from some Saints fans, nobody else seems to think he's better than West Brom level. He's been found wanting by several top managers at France and Man United and none of them thought he was good enough. West Brom is exactly his level and even there he won't be a star player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 2 December, 2016 Share Posted 2 December, 2016 Apart from some Saints fans, nobody else seems to think he's better than West Brom level. He's been found wanting by several top managers at France and Man United and none of them thought he was good enough. West Brom is exactly his level and even there he won't be a star player. So you are saying West Brom are better than Southampton are you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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