Batman Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 I know he left (or legged it) but we were supposed to 'get our club back' when he walked now we know why if this is the strategy for the way forward It shows what a brilliant job he did keeping the players not only onside (seeing as they cant wait to leave) but head the club upwards it may have not been his money but what a fecking job he did there is just no way, this utter shambles would be happening had he been here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 I know he left (or legged it) but we were supposed to 'get our club back' when he walked now we know why if this is the strategy for the way forward It shows what a brilliant job he did keeping the players not only onside (seeing as they cant wait to leave) but head the club upwards it may have not been his money but what a fecking job he did Gutted when he left to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 If the only alternative is this then I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 IN AN INSTANT. He'd have Uncle Les, Gareth Who?, Heil Hans and Wreck-It Ralphie out of the door in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Of course. It's a non arguement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Of course we would but he was the first rat to jump ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 At least people can get their books into the Megastore. And we got our stripes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 28 July, 2014 Author Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Of course we would but he was the first rat to jump ship. you can see why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Of course we would but he was the first rat to jump ship. Which goes to show how long this course of action has been planned for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 IN AN INSTANT. He'd have Uncle Les, Gareth Who?, Heil Hans and Wreck-It Ralphie out of the door in no time. Some totting up of salaries there when, other than Reed, NC was covering all those positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Can't someone get him to rescue our club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 you can see why Yes, but if the owner wants to pull 'X' amount of millions out he could have stayed and helped the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Can't someone get him to rescue our club? I'll give him a bell if you've got his number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Yes without a doubt. Love Matty he's my all time hero but as horrid as cortèse is he gets things done. Get right backer in and hope to see the back of katrina who just wants her money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Nope. He didn't have the money or authority to promise the things he did. He needed Liebher money to do what he did. Actually think the rot started when Marcus died & he was left to do what he wanted. That does not make me at all impressed with the current board or what is happening. I'm gutted, but don't think getting him back would change anything. It's time for the board to step up! Don think they will though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 28 July, 2014 Author Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Nope. He didn't have the money or authority to promise the things he did. He needed Liebher money to do what he did. Actually think the rot started when Marcus died & he was left to do what he wanted. That does not make me at all impressed with the current board or what is happening. I'm gutted, but don't think getting him back would change anything. It's time for the board to step up! Don think they will though! what on earth did he promise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 I'd welcome anyone that wasn't Les Reed, Gareth 'work experience boy' Rogers and Ralph 'Freddie's dumb brother' Kreuger. Morons all of them and couldn't run a bath. Hopefully an intimidating atmosphere at the first few home games next season might persaude them it's not wise to stick around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Of course I would. Anyone who says otherwise is either lying or benefitted from him not being there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Of course I would. Anyone who says otherwise is either lying or benefitted from him not being there. FHF ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 I'd welcome anyone that wasn't Les Reed, Gareth 'work experience boy' Rogers and Ralph 'Freddie's dumb brother' Kreuger. Morons all of them and couldn't run a bath. Hopefully an intimidating atmosphere at the first few home games next season might persaude them it's not wise to stick around. Not reed or Gareth's fault it's katrina and hofsetter trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 In a heartbeat. For want of a better description, NC's departure might be considered a constructive dismissal - a fait accompli if you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 IN AN INSTANT. He'd have Uncle Les, Gareth Who?, Heil Hans and Wreck-It Ralphie out of the door in no time. Gawd you are thick. And whose money would he be using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 It's ironic that Ralph K has written a book on motivation and leadership but it was NC that actually did it, where has the motivation and leadership been since he left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 You have to wonder if big fat Kat is doing this to get back at Cortese. They obviously had a falling out, I expect Cortese gave her the big "you can't run this club without me" so she thought, **** you, you dwarf I don't need you or your club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 I said when the Lying Argie left that this was a chain events started by the death of Markus, ergo its Fat Kat's fault, and every day reinforces my belief. Not only did she pull the plug after last summer, she has now swung the engine into full reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 (edited) What NC instead of KL? is NC funding the club out of his own money or does he have a magic pot of gold to use. Would NC and no rich owner be a good thing? My own feelings are if he had stayed we would still be in much the same position even the legend that is NC can't stop players wanting to go to bigger clubs. Edited 28 July, 2014 by doddisalegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 If the only alternative is this then I would. Boom! U Turn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 What NC instead of KL? is NC funding the club out of his own money or does he have a magic pot of gold to use. Would NC an know rich owner be a good thing? My own feelings are if he had stayed we would still be in much the same position even the legend that is NC can't stop players wanting to go to bigger clubs. Maybe he would have found another buyer. He found Markus after all, and he alluded to the notion he could find others. A lot of you didnt like the bloke, but he did his job well, unlike the trained chimps running the show now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 What NC instead of KL? is NC funding the club out of his own money or does he have a magic pot of gold to use. Would NC an know rich owner be a good thing? My own feelings are if he had stayed we would still be in much the same position even the legend that is NC can't stop players wanting to go to bigger clubs. Kl won't put a penny more in and told nicola that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Dave Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 I would Get him in ASAP. The this useless bunch of c u n t s running the club can fu ck off and go and ruin something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Nope. He didn't have the money or authority to promise the things he did. He needed Liebher money to do what he did. Actually think the rot started when Marcus died & he was left to do what he wanted. That does not make me at all impressed with the current board or what is happening. I'm gutted, but don't think getting him back would change anything. It's time for the board to step up! Don think they will though! That's true, we've been rubbish these last 3 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Cortese? No brainer. Yes yes yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangely Brown Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Nope. He didn't have the money or authority to promise the things he did. He needed Liebher money to do what he did. Actually think the rot started when Marcus died & he was left to do what he wanted. That does not make me at all impressed with the current board or what is happening. I'm gutted, but don't think getting him back would change anything. It's time for the board to step up! Don think they will though! Totally agree Cortese built a dream on a house of cards however I cannot believe how naive this club has become and the board really needs to take a look at itself. It is going to take some rescuing from here that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Kl won't put a penny more in and told nicola that. Did she tell him she was taking £100 million back out to Switzerland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Kl won't put a penny more in and told nicola that. Wasn't it NC who wanted the club to be self sustainable? at least when he first arrived before he got all excited about the CL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 The anyone-but-Cortese brigade would still prefer to take a blunt razor and cut their noses I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 The anyone-but-Cortese brigade would still prefer to take a blunt razor and cut their noses I guess. Yep, they have books to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Maybe he would have found another buyer. It's not his to sell though, he was an employee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 I know he left (or legged it) but we were supposed to 'get our club back' when he walked now we know why if this is the strategy for the way forward It shows what a brilliant job he did keeping the players not only onside (seeing as they cant wait to leave) but head the club upwards it may have not been his money but what a fecking job he did there is just no way, this utter shambles would be happening had he been here Fat chance. Said he'd never come back in that interview he gave after he left. Besides he'd need another billionaire's money to play with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Of course everyone should welcome him back. That would mean that we had an existing or new owner who shares the ambition cause without it he wouldn´t come. Pretty easy concept to grip I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Cortese would have been nothing without Liebherr cash and that is a FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Rumour going around he was at St Marys today with the sunseeker guy, I think its utter crap but Im trying to find out if there is any truth in the rumour And yes, in a heartbeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Cortese would have been nothing without Liebherr cash and that is a FACT But he did have the cash and did a great job with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Whatever you say, it looks to me as if the club is being stripped of its assets and ready for a quick sale. Could NC be waiting int he wings with a new buyer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Rumour going around he was at St Marys today with the sunseeker guy, I think its utter crap but Im trying to find out if there is any truth in the rumour And yes, in a heartbeat Owned by Dalian Wanda yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 what on earth did he promise? He made promises to the players he didn't have the authority too. And he also promised the head chef a new kitchen that he failed to provide. The chef left. That my friend is a statement of fact & can be easily supported if you do some digging!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Maybe he would have found another buyer. He found Markus after all, and he alluded to the notion he could find others. . So what happened to the big talk of being able to find other buyers, and why has he not come back to the rescue ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Cortese would have been nothing without Liebherr cash and that is a FACT How many chairmans in football does it with their own money at top level? (Honest question) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block34 Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Bring Cortese back without his own money? No chance. Would Cortese come back without his own money - only if he could run it with no proper governance so no chance. Bring in a proper, 'footballing' CEO? Yes please. We need one whose 'core skills' reflect our situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Nope. He didn't have the money or authority to promise the things he did. He needed Liebher money to do what he did. Actually think the rot started when Marcus died & he was left to do what he wanted. That does not make me at all impressed with the current board or what is happening. I'm gutted, but don't think getting him back would change anything. It's time for the board to step up! Don think they will though! He may have spen money whilst an executor but an executors role is to ensure the money is well looked after. The result of spending the money has been to produce a club worth far more than was spent full of expensive assets as we have seen. The difference between him and KL was when to cash in He felt with a bit more spend the value of the club and players would increase more she disagreed the result is history. I personally would have him back any time! He may have had his shortcomings as a person but as a Chief Executive he had few equals getting us up from L1 to 3rd in the premier in just over 4 years. He had a strategy and a plan that worked and the drive, will and commitment to make all the hard decisions to see it through. Compare that to this lot who couldn't convince a 19 year old with only 23 appearances to his name give us another year! No comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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