Turkish Posted 20 September, 2014 Posted 20 September, 2014 Are we still in a mess? Any update crabs?
Beckenham Saint Posted 20 September, 2014 Posted 20 September, 2014 Can we have a meltdown every year?
Patrick Bateman Posted 20 September, 2014 Posted 20 September, 2014 Are we still in a mess? Any update crabs? To be fair to our favourite X Factor star, the phrase; "#itshappening butnotaswedexpected" is probably quite true - we didn't expect to have half a new team and new manager and be doing better ... right?
Verbal Kint Posted 20 September, 2014 Posted 20 September, 2014 If only someone had returned Lallana's phone calls
doddisalegend Posted 20 September, 2014 Posted 20 September, 2014 If only someone had returned Lallana's phone calls He'd be warming the bench here, instead of Liverpool, thinking wow that Tadic is a sh it hot player:p
CB Fry Posted 20 September, 2014 Posted 20 September, 2014 One win and a couple of signings and everything's ok is it? Is everything okay for you yet? You were still grizzling on 2nd September, how about now?
Crab Lungs Posted 20 September, 2014 Author Posted 20 September, 2014 Very happy contrary to popular belief.
Turkish Posted 20 September, 2014 Posted 20 September, 2014 Very happy contrary to popular belief. So everything's alright now Is it?
redder freak Posted 20 September, 2014 Posted 20 September, 2014 Which all goes to show that if you don't have faith, you may be wrong.
CWD Posted 20 September, 2014 Posted 20 September, 2014 Very happy contrary to popular belief. I know people are trying to goad you, make out you were lying and generally make you look stupid (as is so often the SWF way), but I would genuinely like to ask what your opinion is now. Do you stand by all that you said on reflection? Is it a case that through a combination of luck and good judgement we got caught up in the mother of all storms and somehow came out healthier on the other side? Or was some of the info you were given a little exaggerated?
Gemmel Posted 20 September, 2014 Posted 20 September, 2014 Lungs is a good lad and a proper Saints fan.... just got sucked in and listened to the wrong people.
OldNick Posted 20 September, 2014 Posted 20 September, 2014 I know people are trying to goad you, make out you were lying and generally make you look stupid (as is so often the SWF way), but I would genuinely like to ask what your opinion is now. Do you stand by all that you said on reflection? Is it a case that through a combination of luck and good judgement we got caught up in the mother of all storms and somehow came out healthier on the other side? Or was some of the info you were given a little exaggerated? The availability of Koeman was a stroke of luck. He seems to be a decent judge of players and has got the team playing. The board pressured by the fans unrest stopped MS and JRod form being sold. We sold 100m worth of players, have had 100m of. Pl riches in and spent 50-60m. I was wrong as I thought that so many new players would not gel, but they seem to have done so. We are 5 games in, let's see after 10
washsaint Posted 20 September, 2014 Posted 20 September, 2014 FFS....what is it with the arrogance of some posters on here? The fans "forced" the Board to stop the sale of Morgan - what a load of b*****s. Re-reading this thread, some posters look like utter p***s!
buctootim Posted 20 September, 2014 Posted 20 September, 2014 The availability of Koeman was a stroke of luck. No it wasn't. Clubs knew he wasn't going to renew his Feyenoord contract and was interested in the PL back in April.
Patrick Bateman Posted 20 September, 2014 Posted 20 September, 2014 No it wasn't. Clubs knew he wasn't going to renew his Feyenoord contract and was interested in the PL back in April. Indeed, he enquired about the Swansea role!
SaintBobby Posted 20 September, 2014 Posted 20 September, 2014 Haha. Always great when these old threads are dug up. They really do make some posters look like utter fools...usually the "bedwetters"
manji Posted 20 September, 2014 Posted 20 September, 2014 Lungs is a good lad and a proper Saints fan.... just got sucked in and listened to the wrong people. That's an understement
CB Fry Posted 20 September, 2014 Posted 20 September, 2014 The availability of Koeman was a stroke of luck. Our appointment of him wasn't luck unless you think Les Reed found him wandering round West Quay and picked up him up like a stray cat.
suewhistle Posted 20 September, 2014 Posted 20 September, 2014 We sold 100m worth of players, have had 100m of. Pl riches in and spent 50-60m. That means we've got enough left over to expand the ground! :-)
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 20 September, 2014 Posted 20 September, 2014 Our appointment of him wasn't luck unless you think Les Reed found him wandering round West Quay and picked up him up like a stray cat. But, but Les Reed is useless. And he can't sell the club to anyone. That's why we're going to get a Hughton-esque manager and no players will join.
Saint IQ Posted 20 September, 2014 Posted 20 September, 2014 But, but Les Reed is useless. And he can't sell the club to anyone. That's why we're going to get a Hughton-esque manager and no players will join. If we better or equal last years league position Les Reed should go on the banner
Sour Mash Posted 20 September, 2014 Posted 20 September, 2014 Very happy contrary to popular belief. Fair enough, but when are you going to update us about what is going on behind the scenes, what is happening at the club, what is KL doing to us?
washsaint Posted 20 September, 2014 Posted 20 September, 2014 yeah come on crab lungs...#itshappeningbutnotasyouthought Is the sky still falling down? Are we still doomed and when will the club be sold? You've been exceptionally quiet lately....wonder why?
OldNick Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 FFS....what is it with the arrogance of some posters on here? The fans "forced" the Board to stop the sale of Morgan - what a load of b*****s. Re-reading this thread, some posters look like utter p***s! If you believe the fans unrest when all were being sold was not a factor then that's up to you. JRod had terms and fee agreed but it was pulled at the last minute when they pulled the drawbridge up. I know this as I know someone who is pretty close to him.
CB Fry Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 If you believe the fans unrest when all were being sold was not a factor then that's up to you. JRod had terms and fee agreed but it was pulled at the last minute when they pulled the drawbridge up. I know this as I know someone who is pretty close to him. What "fans unrest" actually happened then? Hint: a few people grizzling on a web forum is not "fans unrest".
OldNick Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 No it wasn't. Clubs knew he wasn't going to renew his Feyenoord contract and was interested in the PL back in April. Koeman, was the best manager available at the time (although a risk) the list of other candidates made him the best by far. It was a stroke of luck that the timing of him leaving Holland. Do you think that had he not let it be known that he was leaving, that Reed and co would have even had the lightest thought of phoning and asking? If you think that yOu would think that, then why didn't we phone Mourinho .
OldNick Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 What "fans unrest" actually happened then? Hint: a few people grizzling on a web forum is not "fans unrest". So tell us why the club overnight decided not to sell?
red&white56 Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 So tell us why the club overnight decided not to sell? Your question presumes that the club had decided to sell - I don't think we actually know if that is true, or do we?
OldNick Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 Your question presumes that the club had decided to sell - I don't think we actually know if that is true, or do we? Well MS own words/actions gave that answer, even if my own info on JRod is dismissed
CB Fry Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 So tell us why the club overnight decided not to sell? Tell you what. Why not enjoy what has happened and actually is happening rather than getting upset about things that maybe might have happened or didn't happen at all. It's fu cking delicious where I'm sitting. Come and enjoy it.
OldNick Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 Tell you what. Why not enjoy what has happened and actually is happening rather than getting upset about things that maybe might have happened or didn't happen at all. It's fu cking delicious where I'm sitting. Come and enjoy it. I'm enjoying it CB, and being a saints fan this morning is great. Let's hope it carries on,
CB Fry Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 (edited) Koeman, was the best manager available at the time (although a risk) the list of other candidates made him the best by far. It was a stroke of luck that the timing of him leaving Holland. Do you think that had he not let it be known that he was leaving, that Reed and co would have even had the lightest thought of phoning and asking? If you think that yOu would think that, then why didn't we phone Mourinho . Even if his "availability" was luck, in what way was our ability to get him to become SFC manager "luck"? Was the SFC the only job available to him in the whole of world football? And was Koeman the only manager out of work in world football so we couldn't possibly pick anyone else? As before, how about not whining about things that haven't happened and enjoy what has happened. Edited 21 September, 2014 by CB Fry
OldNick Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 Even if his "availability" was luck, in what way was our ability to get him to become SFC manager "luck"? Was the SFC the only job available to him in the whole of world football? As before, how about not whining about things that haven't happened and enjoy what has happened. It was the best in the PL at that time.
CB Fry Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 It was the best in the PL at that time. Was Koeman the only manager available for us to select in the whole of world football? I kinda remember one or two other names.
djharvey Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 So tell us why the club overnight decided not to sell? you really do believe that don't you?
OldNick Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 Was Koeman the only manager available for us to select in the whole of world football? I kinda remember one or two other names. There were names but whether we made any contact who knows. I do remember Malky Mackay.
OldNick Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 you really do believe that don't you? Crickey, you're on the ball.Are you a detective?
CB Fry Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 There were names but whether we made any contact who knows. I do remember Malky Mackay. "Who knows" you say but you also say the entire process of appointing our manager was luck, right? Did we pick Koeman's name out of a bran tub? Or some kind of Dart board system?
View From The Top Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 Well MS own words/actions gave that answer, even if my own info on JRod is dismissed MS said he had a verbal agreement with NC. Nothing to do with the current board. The board said he wasn't going, nor was JR as RK wanted him. That's all there was to it. If you want to believe that a few folk mithering on a messageboard had any impact then fill your boots. St George and the Professor have already laid claim to single handedly saving the club.
red&white56 Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 Well MS own words/actions gave that answer, even if my own info on JRod is dismissed No, MS own words told us what he wanted. I don't remember seeing anything from the club that they had decided to sell. I may have missed something (there's been so much going on over the summer).
OldNick Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 "Who knows" you say but you also say the entire process of appointing our manager was luck, right? Did we pick Koeman's name out of a bran tub? Or some kind of Dart board system?a availibiliy was luck, not like you to twist wording
Goatboy Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 MS said he had a verbal agreement with NC. Nothing to do with the current board. The board said he wasn't going, nor was JR as RK wanted him. That's all there was to it. If you want to believe that a few folk mithering on a messageboard had any impact then fill your boots. St George and the Professor have already laid claim to single handedly saving the club. I think Richmond helped too. Thank the Lord for the three amigos. Saints' saviours one and all.
VectisSaint Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 No it wasn't. Clubs knew he wasn't going to renew his Feyenoord contract and was interested in the PL back in April. Koeman resigned at Feyenoord in February, he was looking for a PL job after that, certainly sounded out Swansea, suspect Les had also sounded him out either then or previously as an option of things went tits up with Poch as was very likely when Nasty Nic left. The appointment of Koeman was nothing to do with luck, or for that matter much to do with the new Board, but due to the continuity from the old board.
Turkish Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 I think Richmond helped too. Thank the Lord for the three amigos. Saints' saviours one and all. Don't forget Franks Cousin kept on telling us he wouldn't accept mediocrity. So he deserves some credit too.
sadoldgit Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 So tell us why the club overnight decided not to sell? From what I remember of the summer RK said he wanted to keep MS and JR and to build his new team around them. He also said he was kept informed about those likely to go before he sat at his desk so it sounds very much to me that it was all planned rather than just happened haphazardly.
Goatboy Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 Don't forget Franks Cousin kept on telling us he wouldn't accept mediocrity. So he deserves some credit too. Good job the board have all this help eh?
CB Fry Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 a availibiliy was luck, not like you to twist wording But what does that even mean? All players/managers "availability" could be linked to luck, so why single out Koeman? I think you are "twisting" an excellent managerial appointment by making it seem like a fluke. Which is "just like you" to do that.
hypochondriac Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 From what I remember of the summer RK said he wanted to keep MS and JR and to build his new team around them. He also said he was kept informed about those likely to go before he sat at his desk so it sounds very much to me that it was all planned rather than just happened haphazardly. No it doesn't that's a load of rubbish. Morgan was clearly earmarked to go but we did a u-turn and had a meeting with Morgan to tell him do which led to the angry tweet.
Redslo Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 Isn't it possible that MS and JR believed that they would be allowed to leave and negotiated deals (in violation of the rules) but were never told by the current board that they would be allowed to leave. Given JR's injury and MS's late return from the world cup, they would not have expected their transfers to happen until August any way.
Turkish Posted 21 September, 2014 Posted 21 September, 2014 Good job the board have all this help eh? I've long held the view that what with the financial, tactical, recruitment, motivational and business geniuses on here this place is a huge pool of untapped potential for any soccerball club looking to recruit staff. We could be playing champions league in a 50,000 seater stadium, paying £15 a ticket with a front 4 of Sam Vokes, wade Elliott, Lukas jutkiewicz and Danny Ings if only they listened to this place more.
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