Dalek2003 Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 It almost feels like we are facing relegation and yet we haven't kicked a ball. I feel empty and fearful for a long drawn out and humiliating season. My only hope, if those players that remain can rekindle the dogged spirit of the 90's when we fought against all odds to hold on to our proud record of staying in the top league. Of course we had our talisman, MLT, to inspire us and the Dell was the cauldron of the underdog. So, if he stays can Koeman rally us or will we slink into the shadows like a haunted flea bitten mongrel, licking our wounds ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Imagine we are keen to get rid of Jay Rod as probably owed some of his fee to Burnley as part of the crippling transfer debt that has put the future of the club in doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 We will have to pay £3-5m over the top on every player as the whole footballing world knows we are more than desperate and have a £100m kitty. this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Been speaking with fans of other teams at work today and they can't believe what is happening at Southampton. Unprecedented sale of most of the first team with no-one coming in. If JRod and Schneiderlin go too - I can only assume whomever is in charge of transfers has been told to say yes to every bid, get the most money possible, and move on to the next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Wouldn't blame him, appears he's been stitched up big time. I think we have to prepare ourselves for the probability that Koeman will go too. He surely wouldn't have sanctioned all this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrivers Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Been speaking with fans of other teams at work today and they can't believe what is happening at Southampton. Unprecedented sale of most of the first team with no-one coming in. If JRod and Schneiderlin go too - I can only assume whomever is in charge of transfers has been told to say yes to every bid, get the most money possible, and move on to the next? I'm hoping they reliase they are onto a loosing battle with the current players who were more loyal to the old regime than we may have thought. So getting rid for as much money to rebuild with a group of players who want to play for the current manager. Talking to other fans, they seem genuinly gutted for what's happen to us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Talking to other fans, they seem genuinly gutted for what's happen to us! A lot of this - and unfortunately a lock of mockery too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Could Koeman resign? If he's got any sense YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 If he's got any sense YES Richmond are you going to resign and take your trite posts with you? I do hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Koeman's tweet this morning of an empty training ground says he either has a sense of humour or he is hacked off, let's hope it is the former. Or it says he was ready for training... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Can only imagine that most of the first team as a group said we want out, and RK and the hoard said fine F off then Most managers would be delighted to be given a prem place, £100m and a blank canvas. Can't see (don't want to see) RL leaving Saving grace is why spend £20 on Pella and Tadic. Doesn't fit with a sell everyone and buy cheap plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrivers Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 (edited) Can only imagine that most of the first team as a group said we want out, and RK and the hoard said fine F off then Most managers would be delighted to be given a prem place, £100m and a blank canvas. Can't see (don't want to see) RL leaving Saving grace is why spend £20 on Pella and Tadic. Doesn't fit with a sell everyone and buy cheap plan This is my view at the moment, and I'm hoping it's right! Which would also fit in with the board saying we are selling players we want to get rid of. Having 8 players who don't want to be there could be more damaging long term! Edited 28 July, 2014 by jayrivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 £20m obviously not £20 ...and board not hoard (although latter might be more accurate) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Koeman won't resign. He knew Lambert, Lallana ads Shaw were leaving before he came here. I think he has been pretty instrumental with the others too. He has had a chance to speak to them but he is a strong manager (in the Alex Ferguson mould) who will not have any time for players who are not 100% committed. He has enough knowledge of the game worldwide to construct a new team of quality experienced signings (and youth) for a fraction of the moeny we are pulling in from sales. It will take a little while to gel but I think he is more than capable of keeping the fans and bankers happy. Sadly, players have more loyalty to the coaching team that to the club or fans these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Doubt it. He gets to build his own team with a ton of money. That's what managers like when they come in. Let's just hope it's spent well. Why do we keep assuming the money will be reinvested what else where we told that has actually turned out to be true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 We're not even selling to elite clubs anymore. Won't be long before the likes of Cardiff and Stoke get Cork and Fonte. what can we do when CL clubs come calling oh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancsaint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 I know we've been setting all sorts of precedents this close season but selling a player who's not even returned to full training from an ACL has got to be a first. If JRod has the same loyalty as the others he will stay with us to recover and say his head is already at Spurs when January comes. Mancsaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 I'm actually lost for words. No idea what KL's motivations are but rank incompetency, pathetic public leadership, and communication blackout seem to be the methods. Hey ho, we got our stripes back and we've been promised some smiles. My £700 well invested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 My spurs supporting friend is convinced both deals will happen this week. I dont doubt theyll pay good fees and they haven't done much business yet, but odd to sign an injured player. Will arsenal not pay for Morgan? Surely he wouldn't choose spurs over them? He won't be getting any CL football. Perhaps playing for Poch means something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Koeman won't resign. He knew Lambert, Lallana ads Shaw were leaving before he came here. I think he has been pretty instrumental with the others too. He has had a chance to speak to them but he is a strong manager (in the Alex Ferguson mould) who will not have any time for players who are not 100% committed. He has enough knowledge of the game worldwide to construct a new team of quality experienced signings (and youth) for a fraction of the moeny we are pulling in from sales. It will take a little while to gel but I think he is more than capable of keeping the fans and bankers happy. Sadly, players have more loyalty to the coaching team that to the club or fans these days. Big hope for this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrivers Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 I'm actually lost for words. No idea what KL's motivations are but rank incompetency, pathetic public leadership, and communication blackout seem to be the methods. Hey ho, we got our stripes back and we've been promised some smiles. My £700 well invested. Or as has already been said - players aren't commited Koeman's told them to sod off and get as much money as we can so he can build his team? Maybe it's clutching at straws, but it's still possible! As annoyed as I am I'm going to wait until the start of the season to judge, and how well the team do. He did work miracles at Feyenord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Hardly surprised. The new board's motto seems to be if someone is interested there's interest they will roll over & sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Ben Smith @BenSmithBBC 7m My understanding is that Jay Rodriguez has already agreed terms with Spurs after the clubs met in Toronto last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 The BBC chap who confirmed Chambers was going (David Ornstein) has now confirmed that JRod and Morgan are on the verge of joining Spurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Ben Smith @BenSmithBBC 7m My understanding is that Jay Rodriguez has already agreed terms with Spurs after the clubs met in Toronto last week When the clubs met? Wonder whether Krueger has been 'handling' things in Canada? Bit embarrassing if we are sending staff all the way around the world just to sell Spurs players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Ben Smith @BenSmithBBC 7m My understanding is that Jay Rodriguez has already agreed terms with Spurs after the clubs met in Toronto last week Why would Spurs want to pay what we assume is stupid money for a player that has an injury that may mean he could be 75% of the player he was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambol2K9 Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Don't really want to believe what I was told the other day, but I was told that he is seriously considering his position. Make of that what you will. Wouldn't you though? If he's got nothing to work with then he can only harm his reputation by being here. If I was him I'd be having serious doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Or as has already been said - players aren't commited Koeman's told them to sod off and get as much money as we can so he can build his team? Maybe it's clutching at straws, but it's still possible! As annoyed as I am I'm going to wait until the start of the season to judge, and how well the team do. He did work miracles at Feyenord. If true (best case scenario), it wouldn't be unfair to accuse him/the transfer committee of being laborious in their business (in terms of incoming). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Yeah **** this board. Amateurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 When the clubs met? Wonder whether Krueger has been 'handling' things in Canada? Bit embarrassing if we are sending staff all the way around the world just to sell Spurs players. I mentioned elsewhere, a little tongue in cheek, that it's a possibility that we are actually touting our players to other clubs. Incredible as it seems, when you look at what's happening it's not beyond the realms of possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Ben Smith @BenSmithBBC 7m My understanding is that Jay Rodriguez has already agreed terms with Spurs after the clubs met in Toronto last week Last week? Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Why would Spurs want to pay what we assume is stupid money for a player that has an injury that may mean he could be 75% of the player he was? And only has 2/3rds of a good season in the Premiership to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Maybe we need to sell both of them in-order to raise our offer for Forster to £4m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsbignose Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 http://www.itv.com/sport/football/article/2014-07-28/spurs-close-on-southampton-duo-rodriguez-schneiderlin/ Picked up by ITV Sport. I think that even the most positive of fans can be allowed at least a little dribble of anxiety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 What about wanyama. Surely he ain't going to be happy arriving back from international duty for pre-season to find a gutted first xi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Abroad Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 What about wanyama. Surely he ain't going to be happy arriving back from international duty for pre-season to find a gutted first xi. Shut up! Don't jinx it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 I don't really know what to say. I'm just very sad about what's happening. We deserve some honesty now, otherwise things may well be very nasty when the season starts. The Leverkusen friendly is going to be a very strange atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 The Leverkusen friendly is going to be a very strange atmosphere. Maybe quite nasty unless we have made a truck load of signings by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 I mentioned elsewhere, a little tongue in cheek, that it's a possibility that we are actually touting our players to other clubs. Incredible as it seems, when you look at what's happening it's not beyond the realms of possibility. Amazing that we are dedicating resources overseas to sell players, but haven't managed to bring in a player that wasn't personally recommended by Koeman yet. If Spurs want a player let them come to us. Where are the priorities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Maybe quite nasty unless we have made a truck load of signings by then. And not just some random loans and risky South Americans either. We need signings at the level of Classie, Rojo, Forster to even start to redeem some of the fans support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Ben Smith @BenSmithBBC · 2m Southampton and Ronald Koeman are of the belief that players who want to leave, should go. An admirable policy, but a risky one Sounds stupid more than admirable to me, but I'm sure the massive Saints squad can cope with losing all the good players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Les Reed has some serious questions to answer. There seems to be no let up, how on earth you can let 7 first team players leave and still pretend to be ambitious is crazy. I won't begin to panic until the end of the transfer window but things aren't looking good. Reed has shown he has no backbone and should have got rid of MoPo in February when he told the club he wanted to leave. If this were Newcastle all the fans would be stood outside the club, some form of protest needs to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 The thing is, if we cannot convince 7 first team players that their future is here, how the bloody hell are we going to get any decent signings over the line? Near on impossible, so expect loans and random south americans for knock down fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Les Reed has some serious questions to answer. There seems to be no let up, how on earth you can let 7 first team players leave and still pretend to be ambitious is crazy. I won't begin to panic until the end of the transfer window but things aren't looking good. Reed has shown he has no backbone and should have got rid of MoPo in February when he told the club he wanted to leave. If this were Newcastle all the fans would be stood outside the club, some form of protest needs to happen that is true we will sign a couple of players by the end of the week. One might be fairly exciting and so many fans will have their tummys tickled. Jeff, wes and NickG will be on here telling us how brilliant this all is etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Do the shirt/number printers at the megastore do question marks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 So what do we think the combined fee will be for Jay & Morgan? I'm going £35m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 So what do we think the combined fee will be for Jay & Morgan? I'm going £35m. 30m plus some tat from their reserves like Harry Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 So what do we think the combined fee will be for Jay & Morgan? I'm going £35m. £20m with a couple of players thrown in, but neither player will be of a level that should interest us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 30m plus some tat from their reserves like Harry Kane. Im going for £30m, kyle naughton and Michael dawson (mp apparently does not rate him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Im going for £30m, kyle naughton and Michael dawson (mp apparently does not rate him) I'd be surprised if he rated either of those, not many people do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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