Financial Fair Play

[Huffton]

Have to admit I don't really know the ins and outs of this. From what I can gather it means we can only pay our players a certain percentage of our total income regarless of how much we have 'in the bank' so to speak?

[Lallana's Left Peg]

With £85m raised from player sales this summer I'd say we're doing just fine on the FFP front.

[farawaysaint]

We are in the premier league, assuming KL does not put equity in we are allowed to make a total maximum loss of 15mill over 3 years. Assuming our wages are at least 52million we can also only increase the wage bill by 4million year on year (77,000 a week), I think that's it anyway.

[Huffton]

We are in the premier league, assuming KL does not put equity in we are allowed to make a total maximum loss of 15mill over 3 years. Assuming our wages are at least 52million we can also only increase the wage bill by 4million year on year (77,000 a week), I think that's it anyway.

 

So basically that means that although we can afford it in theory, we're not allowed to pay the kind of wages the big clubs are coming in and offering our players.

Expect this transfer window to be a regular occurrence then:(

[stevegrant]

The £52m limit and associated restriction on increased wage spending is only applicable if all other club revenues remain the same (i.e. it's only connected with the broadcasting revenue). If the club's commercial revenue increases (which it will do, significantly), all of that can also be put towards the wage bill.

[doddisalegend]

So basically that means that although we can afford it in theory, we're not allowed to pay the kind of wages the big clubs are coming in and offering our players.

Expect this transfer window to be a regular occurrence then:(

 

Yep welcome to the new PL like the old PL yet even less competitive. All the FFP seem to have done as far as I can tell is make sure the big clubs stay big and keep everyone else away from the CL gravy train.

[Toadhall Saint]

Yep welcome to the new PL like the old PL yet even less competitive. All the FFP seem to have done as far as I can tell is make sure the big clubs stay big and keep everyone else away from the CL gravy train.

 

And Hoover up your players should they have the temerity to pose a threat.

[doddisalegend]

Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho claims he pulled out of a bid to sign left-back Luke Shaw this summer because his wage demands would have "killed" the club.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28498546

[Killers Knee]

The £52m limit and associated restriction on increased wage spending is only applicable if all other club revenues remain the same (i.e. it's only connected with the broadcasting revenue). If the club's commercial revenue increases (which it will do, significantly), all of that can also be put towards the wage bill.

Steve, i have never figured out if income from player sales equates to commercial income, can you please set me straight?

[stevegrant]

Steve, i have never figured out if income from player sales equates to commercial income, can you please set me straight?

It doesn't, but it would certainly make sense for transfer revenue to be included when boosting the wage bill above the threshold.

[trousers]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36189779

 

Bournemouth were handed a £7.6m fine for breaching Financial Fair Play rules after accruing huge losses last season en route to Premier League promotion.

[EBS1980]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36189779

 

Still the reward was greater than the fine, so clubs will continue to try and do it

[stevegrant]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36189779

Quite surprised that they appear to have just accepted it and paid up, considering that QPR are still fighting their fine.

[trousers]

Quite surprised that they appear to have just accepted it and paid up

 

Probably because....

 

the reward was greater than the fine

 

?

[Batman]

I think Bournemouth will go down next season.

[SuperSAINT]

I think Bournemouth will go down next season.

 

I expect them to invest heavily and push on.

 

(Assuming Eddie stays)

[Saints foreva]

What a fairytale.

[FloridaMarlin]

Aren't the Football League supposed to soon be issuing a report on their investigations into Leicester wiping off £50m worth of debt in their promotion season?

 

Should make interesting reading, but will be lost in the clamour of the Greatest Football Fairy Tale Ever Told.

 

As somebody above said, the reward is greater than the risk.

[Whitey Grandad]

Aren't the Football League supposed to soon be issuing a report on their investigations into Leicester wiping off £50m worth of debt in their promotion season?

 

Should make interesting reading, but will be lost in the clamour of the Greatest Football Fairy Tale Ever Told.

 

As somebody above said, the reward is greater than the risk.

 

Yes, I believe they are. The owner swapped debt for equity, didn't ours do the same?

[Batman]

Yes, I believe they are. The owner swapped debt for equity, didn't ours do the same?

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/17547804

[ALWAYS_SFC]

I think Bournemouth will go down next season.

 

Who else you predicting to go...Burnley, Brighton or Boro............................................................Saints?

[Whitey Grandad]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/17547804

 

Thanks. That's pretty much the same as Leicester, allowing for inflation.

[Redslo]

Yes, I believe they are. The owner swapped debt for equity, didn't ours do the same?

 

The difference is that our owner did not go over the FFP limits in doing so.

 

If I were Bournemouth I would have continued to fight. QPR violated the rules by a much greater amount and will end up paying only slightly more. If they are not going to enforce the rules why bother having them. Of course, in future seasons the Championship's FFP rules are coordinated with the BPL rules and simple rules evasion will probably not work as well.