Heisenberg Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 My life is ruined. No credibility on an internet forum. Either put up or shut up. All this wink wink nudge nonsense is making you look like a grade A **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didcot Saint Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Think you're being a bit thick here. Didcot is implying that all that money in the bank counts for nothing if it is not used to buy players. Correct. And you cannot pick up points with no players left on the pitch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Either put up or shut up. All this wink wink nudge nonsense is making you look like a grade A **** Lol, coming from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 5 words, anyone could have said that. If you have something to share, share it. But if you don't want to share it, stop filling up threads with one sentence wind ups - as that's all they are, you're becoming a WUM. We can all see what's going on, no one is happy, but the last thing we need is someone poking their head up and shouting ''TOLD YOU SO'' - when you never actually did. Didn't I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Lol, coming from you. Glasgow is dead. Long live Glasgow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Didn't I? Nope, nudge, nudge, wink, wink sentences don't actually say anything. Anyone could have said what you have said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Morgan is back in work tomorrow, right? guess that mean we will start to hear more about him leaving, then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madruss Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Nope, nudge, nudge, wink, wink sentences don't actually say anything. Anyone could have said what you have said. I agree. In reaction to those accounts there were two opposing schools of thought that any reasonable person could discern. 1) We're in the sh*t and will have to sell all our players 2)The club is run really well, and there's no need to worry. Simply stating that you believe 1 is the case, however cryptically, does not automatically mean you were right. I make it 50:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Nope, nudge, nudge, wink, wink sentences don't actually say anything. Anyone could have said what you have said. Exactly - nothing CL has said is any different to the kind of ranting "everything-has-gone-to-sh it" stuff we get from loads of posters on here. Sorry Crabby - you can only have your "I told you so" moment if you'd had the balls to actually tell us so. You didn't have those balls. And as you rightly say, this is a pointless little football web forum: so what stopped you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 It was 300m she wanted and they offered 200 million ......100 million short . This was put on twitter at one point by a journalist and rapidly removed . Maybe the intention is net back the 100 million from sales , convert into an equity withdrawal to a swiss account then sell ?? In which case barring the two purchases made which may have been a RK condition of taking the job we wont be buying anyone else , the next two weeks will be key critical for our future in the premiership IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 It was 300m she wanted and they offered 200 million ......100 million short . This was put on twitter at one point by a journalist and rapidly removed . Maybe the intention is net back the 100 million from sales , convert into an equity withdrawal to a swiss account then sell ?? In which case barring the two purchases made which may have been a RK condition of taking the job we wont be buying anyone else , the next two weeks will be key critical for our future in the premiership IMHO Very important part there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Who offered £200M? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 He left because Kat came in and wanted control, presumably so she can set about the plan you outlined above which I pretty much agree with. She could have got rid of Cortese or looked for more control at any time but didn't until January. Cortese always seemed realistic about Saints stature and spoke about achieving things in different ways. He spent what was required to get us from L1 to the Prem and at no time did I ever think spending was grotesque or obscene. A lot of investment and work also went into infrastructure with an eye on the future as well. My guess is that he wanted to continue doing what was working well for the club but saw the writing on the wall as soon as Kat stepped into the board room. Who would want to stick around and watch years of work unravel around you? I think he left because the owner expected more accountability from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 If you take out £100m in sales, then the £200m offered might be reduced to £100m, or certainly it should be adjusted that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Who offered £200M? no-one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 I think he left because the owner expected more accountability from him. Yes, that must have been awkward for him, suddenly having to justify all his spending and decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Yes, that must have been awkward for him, suddenly having to justify all his spending and decisions. More awkward for Kat letting him know the plans for summer I would imagine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Very important part there Just fukcing tell us what you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 It was 300m she wanted and they offered 200 million ......100 million short . This was put on twitter at one point by a journalist and rapidly removed . Maybe the intention is net back the 100 million from sales , convert into an equity withdrawal to a swiss account then sell ?? In which case barring the two purchases made which may have been a RK condition of taking the job we wont be buying anyone else , the next two weeks will be key critical for our future in the premiership IMHO Most people who have got £200m to spend tend to notice if you remove £100m of value from their intended purchase. They do silly awkward things like lowering their offer accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Just fukcing tell us what you know? He knows nothing, thought that would be pretty obvious by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28497920 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 He knows nothing, thought that would be pretty obvious by now. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 We'll see. We'll see what, exactly? Even if the world does end, you still haven't proven you know anything as you've said nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 More awkward for Kat letting him know the plans for summer I would imagine It could just be that she and her advisors could see that we were heading for big trouble if we carried on doing things his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 It could just be that she and her advisors could see that we were heading for big trouble if we carried on doing things his way. which was what? what way were we heading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 which was what? what way were we heading? Probably continuing to spend her money, without her seeing anything back. She wants a bit of $$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 We'll see. Well why don't you say then, like you said you would, instead of being a snivelling dinlow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 We'll see. We're not going to see anything because you haven't said anything of substance! You've basically said thing are going bad- to be honest anyone could have said that. If you know that something really rotten is happening in the club and what the end game is why not have the decency to tell your fellow supporters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 We'll see. What like this sort of thing? http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?50340-Hysterical-reaction-to-no-news&p=1944452#post1944452 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Probably continuing to spend her money, without her seeing anything back. She wants a bit of $$. The value of the club has increased 10 fold. What was Cortese doing exactly which was sending us into financial ruin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Probably continuing to spend her money, without her seeing anything back. She wants a bit of $$. the club is worth a fortune compared to what she put in...which was precisely nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 What like this sort of thing? http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?50340-Hysterical-reaction-to-no-news&p=1944452#post1944452 Yep, finally, someone who has bothered to look at my posts from the past. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?50084-2013-14-Southampton-Football-Club-Player-Awards&p=1932022#post1932022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 the club is worth a fortune compared to what she put in...which was precisely nothing Except about four times as much as her Dad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 which was what? what way were we heading? Just possible suggestions... No control over expenditure, debts getting out of control... It could explain the current situation. Maybe she/they just want to get the club back on the straight and narrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Just possible suggestions... No control over expenditure, debts getting out of control... It could explain the current situation. Maybe she/they just want to get the club back on the straight and narrow? Must have been a pretty horrendous situation if this is what it takes to remediate it. We all saw the accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Correct. And you cannot pick up points with no players left on the pitch! get real Didcot..." no players left on the pitch ? " We didn't have the last 11 players on the planet. There are a number of good (but different) reasons for selling those who have gone already. There's lots more talent out there to be had, and if Les and Ronald do their stuff, we'll get even better replacements for those players who have already /will leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 we'll get even better replacements for those players who have already /will leave. We really won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 We really won't. I am stunned that people think that we may get 1, 2 at a push that turn out better but not all 5, 6 or 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 We really won't. shall we wait and see?...or, is that your last word on the subject? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 I still remember Crab Lungs updates from the Paul Allen days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Just possible suggestions... No control over expenditure, debts getting out of control... It could explain the current situation. Maybe she/they just want to get the club back on the straight and narrow? Outside experts who looked at our accounts at the time said they were a relative picture of health - much better than other prem sides. Even listening now to the extended interview between Blackmore and Rodgers reinforces this impression, not least the fact that our players wage bill as a % of turnover, the best indicator of whether a side's spending is sustainable or not, is one of the lowest in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFear Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Well why don't you say then, like you said you would, instead of being a snivelling dinlow. why is everyone giving crabs such a hard time?? just because no journalist, player, or anyone close to the club who might conceivably know what katherina's plans are, all say they have no idea what is in her head. why should some random poster on this forum not know?? ok, he has been promising to tell all for the best part of 2 months now, just give him time. he clearly just needs to see how things play out to prove he was correct. and then he will confirm it to us all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 get real Didcot..." no players left on the pitch ? " We didn't have the last 11 players on the planet. There are a number of good (but different) reasons for selling those who have gone already. There's lots more talent out there to be had, and if Les and Ronald do their stuff, we'll get even better replacements for those players who have already /will leave. To busy selling for buy any incoming players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Outside experts who looked at our accounts at the time said they were a relative picture of health - much better than other prem sides. Even listening now to the extended interview between Blackmore and Rodgers reinforces this impression, not least the fact that our players wage bill as a % of turnover, the best indicator of whether a side's spending is sustainable or not, is one of the lowest in the league. Well, maybe thereby hangs the root of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Outside experts who looked at our accounts at the time said they were a relative picture of health - much better than other prem sides. Even listening now to the extended interview between Blackmore and Rodgers reinforces this impression, not least the fact that our players wage bill as a % of turnover, the best indicator of whether a side's spending is sustainable or not, is one of the lowest in the league. Those accounts covered a period between 13 months and 25 months ago. A lot has happened and been spent since then, including £37.5m of transfers in and £30m on Staplewood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Those accounts covered a period between 13 months and 25 months ago. A lot has happened and been spent since then, including £37.5m of transfers in and £30m on Staplewood. how long has staplewood been going on for do builders do all the work for no money what so ever in stages/up front. or is it all paid at the end? what about the huge TV deal in all that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 how long has staplewood been going on for do builders do all the work for no money what so ever in stages/up front. or is it all paid at the end? what about the huge TV deal in all that? The TV deal helps to cover the players' wages. The figures you often see quoted are when you add up several years' payments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Chambers is gone... More or less confirmed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Chambers is gone... More or less confirmed I'm not a bedwetter, a "fan on the board" type or any such crap. But the club needs to give answers now. This is ridiculous. This has NEVER happened before - a team in the top 10 of the top flight selling 6+ first team starters. This is not the actions of a club aiming for Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 I'm not a bedwetter, a "fan on the board" type or any such crap. But the club needs to give answers now. This is ridiculous. This has NEVER happened before - a team in the top 10 of the top flight selling 6+ first team starters. This is not the actions of a club aiming for Europe. Im with you clarky, Ive never known you to be pessimistic about saints, like me you have always seemed to be pretty objective about all things saints Fact is, as a fan, ive never felt so distant from the club I love, a big part of me doesnt care anymore, I do t know whats gone wrong in the back corridoors but its obviously wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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