Matthew Le God Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 (edited) I believe Saints are doing things like this throughout the south of England (including in London boroughs) and building up a large network of centres... http://www.northdevonjournal.co.uk/Soccer-School-forges-Premier-League-link/story-21749307-detail/story.html The reputation of our academy, high quality facilities at Staplewood training ground and the pathway into the 1st team gives us a big advantage and a vast catchment area. Edited 24 July, 2014 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 I've always said, that while we missed out on the Bale sell on clause, in the long run the PR from him having been through us will outweigh the £20m that we "lost" out on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 They already have the Bath one down that way - had a couple from Weston Super Mare in the academy recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 Told you this 3 weeks ago and that we signed a young centre half from Plymouth for some serious dosh. You can check my posts because I cant be assed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 Told you this 3 weeks ago and that we signed a young centre half from Plymouth for some serious dosh. You can check my posts because I cant be assed. Neither can I, have a round of applause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 Remember the old days when someone would post a picture of a medal ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneawol Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 [video=youtube_share;8qkSe4YM7EY] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 What do we reckon the cut off point is? I've hit some form recently. Will my 25 years work against me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 I thought we needed special dispensation to open the satellite academy in Bath due to the catchment area restrictions. Do the same issue not apply to the new centre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 This is lovely. It'll all come tumbling down if we're relegated, so let's hope someone in the club is working overtime on the little dilemna called the 1st team/squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Although good for us. Not good for plymouth and Exeter, Torquay. Just imagine when we were in league 1 and say a London prem club did the same in Eastleigh. We would not be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 What, you mean like Chelsea did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Neither can I, have a round of applause. Ooohhh goodee thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 This is lovely. It'll all come tumbling down if we're relegated, so let's hope someone in the club is working overtime on the little dilemna called the 1st team/squad. AGREED we have been here before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Although good for us. Not good for plymouth and Exeter, Torquay. Just imagine when we were in league 1 and say a London prem club did the same in Eastleigh. We would not be happy They already do and have for years. Chelsea run academy close to here and send scouts to Tyro/Testway/CSYL games regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 They already do and have for years. Chelsea run academy close to here and send scouts to Tyro/Testway/CSYL games regularly. And to local 6 a side tournaments for kids,although they are not the only ones Saw Saints, Chelsea, Fulham, Bournemouth, Brighton and Arse Scouts in last 12 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 July, 2014 Author Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Although good for us. Not good for plymouth and Exeter, Torquay. Just imagine when we were in league 1 and say a London prem club did the same in Eastleigh. We would not be happy Chelsea have one in Romsey and Winchester... https://www.chelseasoccerschools.co.uk/soccerschools/booking/venues.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc1976 Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 The top six will be pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Chelsea have one in Romsey and Winchester... https://www.chelseasoccerschools.co.uk/soccerschools/booking/venues.htm I'm not happy about that. Mind you, nothing really to worry about there, as our academy offers much more than Chelski's in terms of potential advancement into the first team and therefore a better career move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 I'm not happy about that. Mind you, nothing really to worry about there, as our academy offers much more than Chelski's in terms of potential advancement into the first team and therefore a better career move. in your eyes, maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 (edited) in your eyes, maybe Nope in most...three of the best in my opinion are West Ham, Fulham and Brentford. Fulham under the leadership of Elias produce some great kids, they play very good football. Brentford are very well run and are lucky as they pick up kids released from Arsenal, Chelsea etc who are good but not quite ready but develop well away from the spotlight of those bigger sides full of foreign youngsters. Edited 25 July, 2014 by Give it to Ron changed number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Told you this 3 weeks ago and that we signed a young centre half from Plymouth for some serious dosh. You can check my posts because I cant be assed. I did check the posts and you posted this 29th June: Maybe the wrong thread but we have just tied up a deal with a kids soccer school to have first refusal on its youngsters. We have paid a serious amount of money for a 14 year old centre half of which the proceeds go to Plymouth I believe as he was on their books. Aston Villa also wanted the deal with the school but we were chosen. Perhaps this 14 year old can be a ready made replacement for Lovren come August. So well done, a few ITK points coming your way no doubt. Do you know the name of the CB centre half here ? Reason I ask is that one of the articles posted yesterday referred to a player who had previously signed for Villa but returned home due to home sickness. Just wondered if we'd stepped in and offered him the chance to stay on the coast with coastal air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 I believe Saints are doing things like this throughout the south of England (including in London boroughs) and building up a large network of centres... The reputation of our academy, high quality facilities at Staplewood training ground and the pathway into the 1st team gives us a big advantage and a vast catchment area. We always used to have one in London, during Lawrie's day it was overseen by Bob Higgins and brought us many players, most notably Steve Williams, and the Wallaces. I wonder if we still have a network or centre in the north east. Anyone know ? I thought we needed special dispensation to open the satellite academy in Bath due to the catchment area restrictions. Do the same issue not apply to the new centre? I wondered about this too. Perhaps Cotterill or his chairman will be on AA routefinder working out the distance from Ashton Gate to tell us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andoru Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Chelsea have one in Romsey and Winchester... https://www.chelseasoccerschools.co.uk/soccerschools/booking/venues.htm Don't seem like much to worry about. They're just soccer schools that anyone can join. Not a lot different to the summer training schemes I did when I was a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 I thought we needed special dispensation to open the satellite academy in Bath due to the catchment area restrictions. Do the same issue not apply to the new centre? I would expect that, with the new EPPP stuff, as a Category 1 Academy we can more or less do what we want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 I would expect that, with the new EPPP stuff, as a Category 1 Academy we can more or less do what we want. This really. A bit naive to think but perhaps it could work in partnership with some of the smaller devon sides? We work with a group, the best of the bunch come to us, we send those that have not made it their way. Who knows we may have missed a real late bloomer or simply a few who may make it at a decent level but not quite in the premiership .... Echo the sentiments about the first team squad needing attention but, it's that word of the moment, 'holistic' approach to a club. Whether or not you trust our first team will be in good shape come the end of the window (I do, others don't, opinions ...) I see no reason we should not also be seeking to develop other areas of the club - especially considering it is our academy,and the respective satellites, that have produced some of the best players we have seen in saints shirts (and, arguably, one of the world's best!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Remember the old days when someone would post a picture of a medal ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 This really. A bit naive to think but perhaps it could work in partnership with some of the smaller devon sides? We work with a group, the best of the bunch come to us, we send those that have not made it their way. Who knows we may have missed a real late bloomer or simply a few who may make it at a decent level but not quite in the premiership .... Echo the sentiments about the first team squad needing attention but, it's that word of the moment, 'holistic' approach to a club. Whether or not you trust our first team will be in good shape come the end of the window (I do, others don't, opinions ...) I see no reason we should not also be seeking to develop other areas of the club - especially considering it is our academy,and the respective satellites, that have produced some of the best players we have seen in saints shirts (and, arguably, one of the world's best!). Agreed, just because the focus of the media and fans is (rightly) on the first team squad, that doesn't mean that the rest of the club stops what it's doing. It's often said that if you stand still in football you'll actually be going backwards because other clubs will overtake you rings true at all levels of the game - if we don't make sure we're doing everything we can to recruit the best talent, you can bet your house that another club will get in there ahead of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 in your eyes, maybe So we've recently produced Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Ward-Prowse, Chambers, Gallagher, Reed, etc, and had them introduced into our first team quite early on in their careers. There is the next wave just beginning to make their presence felt at the moment. I await with eager anticipation your comparable list of youngsters who have made their way into the Chelski team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 So we've recently produced Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Ward-Prowse, Chambers, Gallagher, Reed, etc, and had them introduced into our first team quite early on in their careers. There is the next wave just beginning to make their presence felt at the moment. I await with eager anticipation your comparable list of youngsters who have made their way into the Chelski team. part of the development of bale, walcott etc can be put down to spurs and arsenal we never sold a marauding forward player to spurs. we sold a good young attacking left back. some chelsea youth team players are on more than our first team. I wonder if they would rather be at saints right now..? some of their young players may never play for chelsea but secure massive moves to top clubs in europe im not saying chelsea are better but to dismiss them out of hand is daft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Although good for us. Not good for plymouth and Exeter, Torquay. Just imagine when we were in league 1 and say a London prem club did the same in Eastleigh. We would not be happy Hang on, the Devon sides have had years to get their act together and provide a decent outlet for local lads. I can not name many boys who have come out of their academies who have gone on to great things. There is a big slice of England served by under achieving clubs that probably needs a good provider to go in a help nurture the local talent. Leaving the Devon clubs to their own devices hasn't worked so maybe a bit of competition may make them up their game. They will also benefit from the lads that just fall short. I say this as a son of an Argyle fan who had a soft spot for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Hang on, the Devon sides have had years to get their act together and provide a decent outlet for local lads. I can not name many boys who have come out of their academies who have gone on to great things. . I've made this point when talking to A Bristol City supporter after Cotterill/Chairman Lansdowns comments re us in Bath. When did either Bristol club nurture local talent that went on to make a name for themselves in the top flight ? By my recollection it was the Mabbutt brothers, late 70's/early 80's. And as another twist of the knife for Clotterill etc, the more sucessful of the two was Gary Mabbutt who came from Rovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Hang on, the Devon sides have had years to get their act together and provide a decent outlet for local lads. I can not name many boys who have come out of their academies who have gone on to great things. There is a big slice of England served by under achieving clubs that probably needs a good provider to go in a help nurture the local talent. Leaving the Devon clubs to their own devices hasn't worked so maybe a bit of competition may make them up their game. They will also benefit from the lads that just fall short. I say this as a son of an Argyle fan who had a soft spot for the club. I would suggest that the Devon teams are doing something right Gallagher, Stephens, the other defender, this keeper from torquay were all from their academies for us to take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 I would suggest that the Devon teams are doing something right Gallagher, Stephens, the other defender, this keeper from torquay were all from their academies for us to take i think you proved my point. I can think of Paul Wotton, Mickey Evans and Nicky Marker; good players but not a great return from a large part of England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 So Liverpool are opening a new development facility in North Devon!!!! Let's hope it works out for them!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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