buctootim Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 isgrove was decent? Yeah but its fashionable to slag him off. He was one of the best players on the pitch at Brighton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didcot Saint Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 It would seem we are trying just to sign defenders. I have seen nothing in Pelle to think he can cut it in the PL, we DESPERATELY need at least another if not two strikers as I can't see who is going to score any goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakkoUK Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 It would seem we are trying just to sign defenders. I have seen nothing in Pelle to think he can cut it in the PL, we DESPERATELY need at least another if not two strikers as I can't see who is going to score any goals. Give the boy a chance before writing him off completely. Perhaps we should get behind our players instead of always putting them down, this goes out to all other Saints 'fans'. However, a second option would be a nice addition considering quality depth isn't great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didcot Saint Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Not writing him off at all, I just think we need more options. If he gets injured would you want Sam Gallagher as our only recognised striker?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Give the boy a chance before writing him off completely. Perhaps we should get behind our players instead of always putting them down, this goes out to all other Saints 'fans'. However, a second option would be a nice addition considering quality depth isn't great. If you come on here you might expect 'fans' to express an opinion on a player from time to time amongst the trolling and bickering. I'm with didcot - pelle will struggle this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorne Malvo Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Not writing him off at all, I just think we need more options. If he gets injured would you want Sam Gallagher as our only recognised striker?? Mayuka..Sharp...how many more strikers you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Mayuka..Sharp...how many more strikers you need? Quality not quantity is the missing element à mon avis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Yeah but its fashionable to slag him off. He was one of the best players on the pitch at Brighton. Agreed. He still has a lot to learn but I think there is a basis there for a very good player to emerge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Yeah but its fashionable to slag him off. He was one of the best players on the pitch at Brighton. And one of the worst against Leverkusen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 So, been cutting back my time on here, but what's the latest? From the above I presume our Summer business is over is it? Be frustrating if it is we need another Striker and centre back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 So, been cutting back my time on here, but what's the latest? From the above I presume our Summer business is over is it? Be frustrating if it is we need another Striker and centre back. Not by any of the press reports, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Koeman's just said we'll be bringing in 1 or 2 more. After it being said we'll be reinvesting the 90m, 1-2 more players doesn't sound to me like it's going to be fully reinvested. I don't think they ever said it would all be re-invested this Summer, and we were blatantly looking at spending 15m on Rojo until the goalposts moved again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 So, been cutting back my time on here, but what's the latest? From the above I presume our Summer business is over is it? Be frustrating if it is we need another Striker and centre back. Koeman has talked of 1-2 more but I expect he is playing it down given the number of players he has admitted to being interested in (Rojo, Gardos, Byram, a striker). If Ralph & Co are serious about improving the depth of our 'roster' then I reckon we'll need at least 4 more. Arguably, in terms of squad depth, we are still to replace Lovren, Lambert, Chambers, and Lovren, if you see Pelle and Tadic taking the squad places of Osvaldo and an injured J-Rod. Still a lot to be done then if they want to realise that aim. Hope we'll get at least another 2 in this week or it is going to be a frantic end to the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Not by any of the press reports, no. Oh, so same old then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Koeman has talked of 1-2 more but I expect he is playing it down given the number of players he has admitted to being interested in (Rojo, Gardos, Byram, a striker). If Ralph & Co are serious about improving the depth of our 'roster' then I reckon we'll need at least 4 more. Arguably, in terms of squad depth, we are still to replace Lovren, Lambert, Chambers, and Lovren, if you see Pelle and Tadic taking the squad places of Osvaldo and an injured J-Rod. Still a lot to be done then if they want to realise that aim. Hope we'll get at least another 2 in this week or it is going to be a frantic end to the window. Cool, cheers. Definitely still need a CB and Striker IMHO, and then a back up RB is certainly advisable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Koeman's just said we'll be bringing in 1 or 2 more. After it being said we'll be reinvesting the 90m, 1-2 more players doesn't sound to me like it's going to be fully reinvested. No one from the club, at any point, has said we would spend "the 90m" in this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 If you come on here you might expect 'fans' to express an opinion on a player from time to time amongst the trolling and bickering. I'm with didcot - pelle will struggle this year Difficult to write him off yet. Iam sceptical but I. Recall all the fans saying RL was not up to it. In fact I will always remember a fan on the Northam screaming at RL what a lazy fat so and so he was (he had scored about 15goals for us that season at that stage) and then scoring the winner. I notice McGoldrick is back after his bad ankle injury, to think the abuse he got when he was just 17or18. I hope he really does well in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 No one from the club, at any point, has said we would spend "the 90m" in this window. that's correct, although at first it seemed we were. We had. The war. Chest that was spoken about before the sales let alone the transfer money. I expect us to get another couple in before the window shuts, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Koeman has talked of 1-2 more but I expect he is playing it down given the number of players he has admitted to being interested in (Rojo, Gardos, Byram, a striker). If Ralph & Co are serious about improving the depth of our 'roster' then I reckon we'll need at least 4 more. Arguably, in terms of squad depth, we are still to replace Lovren, Lambert, Chambers, and Lovren, if you see Pelle and Tadic taking the squad places of Osvaldo and an injured J-Rod. Still a lot to be done then if they want to realise that aim. Hope we'll get at least another 2 in this week or it is going to be a frantic end to the window. Did we have 2 Lovrens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Did we have 2 Lovrens? His head and his body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 His head and his body. We never actually owned his head, it was either stuck up somewhere dark and smelly or up his a r s e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Pelle will be the whipping boy this season can see it happening already before he has even kicked a competitive ball for the club. Why do Saints always do this as a fan base? Some people are saying he is not prem ready, when he hasn't ever played a prem game, what the **** is wrong with your heads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Pelle will be the whipping boy this season can see it happening already before he has even kicked a competitive ball for the club. Why do Saints always do this as a fan base? Some people are saying he is not prem ready, when he hasn't ever played a prem game, what the **** is wrong with your heads? Lambert always struggled in pre-season too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Pelle will be the whipping boy this season can see it happening already before he has even kicked a competitive ball for the club. Why do Saints always do this as a fan base? Some people are saying he is not prem ready, when he hasn't ever played a prem game, what the **** is wrong with your heads? I think much of that stems from his performance against Bayer, when, to be fair, he looked a mile off the pace to me. I'm not going to dismiss him because of that though. Plenty to come from Pelle I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Pelle will be the whipping boy this season can see it happening already before he has even kicked a competitive ball for the club. Why do Saints always do this as a fan base? Some people are saying he is not prem ready, when he hasn't ever played a prem game, what the **** is wrong with your heads? For "Saints fans" read "every single group of football supporters on earth". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 I think much of that stems from his performance against Bayer, when, to be fair, he looked a mile off the pace to me. I'm not going to dismiss him because of that though. Plenty to come from Pelle I reckon. He didn't look particularly effective against Bayer but then not many of our attacking players did, they are a bloody good German team at the top of their game, for some to write Pelle off just like that when the guy scored as many goals as he did in the Eredivisie is madness and arrogant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 He didn't look particularly effective against Bayer but then not many of our attacking players did, they are a bloody good German team at the top of their game, for some to write Pelle off just like that when the guy scored as many goals as he did in the Eredivisie is madness and arrogant. I hope you are right altidore scored 23 goals in 33 in his last season in holland before moving to sunderland surely, he will be better than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 He didn't look particularly effective against Bayer but then not many of our attacking players did, they are a bloody good German team at the top of their game, for some to write Pelle off just like that when the guy scored as many goals as he did in the Eredivisie is madness and arrogant. Indeed, and if he bullies Lovren on Sunday and grabs himself a goal, he'll be the new hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Pelle will be the whipping boy this season can see it happening already before he has even kicked a competitive ball for the club. Why do Saints always do this as a fan base? Some people are saying he is not prem ready, when he hasn't ever played a prem game, what the **** is wrong with your heads? Because football fans in the main are idiots pal. Whinging, moaning, complaining dinlows. From the clown that stands behind you thinking he's funny, like the bloke in the Northam who used to shout "Go on Hoover" in his broadest 'ampshire accent then look round laughing every time Hoolveld got near the ball, to the ones who scream "f*ck off Guly" everytime Guly gets near the pitch. The ones who shout "stop f*cking about with it, get it fooooooorwarrrrrrrd" and then moan that Lambert was a lazy c*nt because he didn't chase a long punt down field while it ran out for a throw in by the corner flag. Fat, dopey, thick, scruffy idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 I hope you are right altidore scored 23 goals in 33 in his last season in holland before moving to sunderland surely, he will be better than that Im not calling his ability either way, I just want people to give all our new players a chance before condemning their ability, and that doesn't just mean one game against Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Because football fans in the main are idiots pal. Whinging, moaning, complaining dinlows. From the clown that stands behind you thinking he's funny, like the bloke in the Northam who used to shout "Go on Hoover" in his broadest 'ampshire accent then look round laughing every time Hoolveld got near the ball, to the ones who scream "f*ck off Guly" everytime Guly gets near the pitch. The ones who shout "stop f*cking about with it, get it fooooooorwarrrrrrrd" and then moan that Lambert was a lazy c*nt because he didn't chase a long punt down field while it ran out for a throw in by the corner flag. Fat, dopey, thick, scruffy idiots. "Fox, your useless mate !, you're useless !, Get your head up" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Im not calling his ability either way, I just want people to give all our new players a chance before condemning their ability, and that doesn't just mean one game against Liverpool. I dont think anyone is not giving him a chance what gets said on here (or in the pub) has no relevance on 'giving him a chance' on matchdays (when it actually matters) right now, our only fit, senior striker has been pretty average in pre season. of course people are going to be worried. hopefully, he will turn it on when it matters and not become another altidore type of donkey. but fans have every right to express their concern on here or in the pub just as people will be too quickly (as you say) to write him off. other (and they have) will very quick to say he is better than lambert or tadic is better than lallana etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happiness stan Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Because football fans in the main are idiots pal. Whinging, moaning, complaining dinlows. From the clown that stands behind you thinking he's funny, like the bloke in the Northam who used to shout "Go on Hoover" in his broadest 'ampshire accent then look round laughing every time Hoolveld got near the ball, to the ones who scream "f*ck off Guly" everytime Guly gets near the pitch. The ones who shout "stop f*cking about with it, get it fooooooorwarrrrrrrd" and then moan that Lambert was a lazy c*nt because he didn't chase a long punt down field while it ran out for a throw in by the corner flag. Fat, dopey, thick, scruffy idiots. are they all fat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Pelle will be the whipping boy this season can see it happening already before he has even kicked a competitive ball for the club. Why do Saints always do this as a fan base? Some people are saying he is not prem ready, when he hasn't ever played a prem game, what the **** is wrong with your heads? For "Saints fans" read "every single group of football supporters on earth". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 are they all fat? Many of them are, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 He just said "one or two" in answer to a question about signings but in a pretty off-hand way, just a throwaway answer really. Not worth getting worked up about. I imagine he is already sick of over promising. Man, it must be boring making all these promises that he's never actually made! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 are they all fat? The **** that was sat behind me last season was colossal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happiness stan Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Many of them are, yes. Fat idiots, thanks for clearing that up. I have to remind myself that the office Liverpool fans are fat, dopey, thick, scruffy idiots too. Must try and be nice on Monday and not call them that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Fat idiots, thanks for clearing that up. I have to remind myself that the office Liverpool fans are fat, dopey, thick, scruffy idiots too. Must try and be nice on Monday and not call them that. A Liverpool fan in the office tried engaging with me about football yesterday, he was swatted away like a fly. Thick tw*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 I dont think anyone is not giving him a chance what gets said on here (or in the pub) has no relevance on 'giving him a chance' on matchdays (when it actually matters) right now, our only fit, senior striker has been pretty average in pre season. of course people are going to be worried. hopefully, he will turn it on when it matters and not become another altidore type of donkey. but fans have every right to express their concern on here or in the pub just as people will be too quickly (as you say) to write him off. other (and they have) will very quick to say he is better than lambert or tadic is better than lallana etc And I think this is what I really don't understand about certain posters on this forum, what is the point in voicing your opinion if you don't really think it? You seem to be someone who does this Batman, just tell me why? Is it an attention thing? Surely that is the definition of a troll, interesting to know you troll people in pubs too though. There have definitely been posters who have stated categorically in their opinion that Pelle aint good enough. Concerns are one thing, I'm concerned. It's sheer arrogance to decide the bloke isn't good enough based on one watched performance or in some cases it seems just a secondhand match report from another fan! Right I'll stop wittering now, it's starting to sound like I'm whining :roll eyes: Just woke up, read a few 'opinions' and wanted to rant about it and this is the wrong thread. Turks pretty much nailed the reality of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 And I think this is what I really don't understand about certain posters on this forum, what is the point in voicing your opinion if you don't really think it? You seem to be someone who does this Batman, just tell me why? Is it an attention thing? Surely that is the definition of a troll, interesting to know you troll people in pubs too though. There have definitely been posters who have stated categorically in their opinion that Pelle aint good enough. Concerns are one thing, I'm concerned. It's sheer arrogance to decide the bloke isn't good enough based on one watched performance or in some cases it seems just a secondhand match report from another fan! Right I'll stop wittering now, it's starting to sound like I'm whining :roll eyes: Just woke up, read a few 'opinions' and wanted to rant about it and this is the wrong thread. Turks pretty much nailed the reality of it. who and how many? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 no transfer rumours then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Did we have 2 Lovrens? Haha, Lallana I meant. Too early when I wrote that. His head and his body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Sky Sports News HQ @SkySportsNewsHQ 6m Celtic sign defender Jason Denayer from MAN City on season-long loan - more details on #SSN Preparing for the departure of VV-D?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 It would seem we are trying just to sign defenders. I have seen nothing in Pelle to think he can cut it in the PL, we DESPERATELY need at least another if not two strikers as I can't see who is going to score any goals. This really is one of the most premature conclusions about a player's ability (or lack of it, apparently) that I can ever remember. Well done for forming your opinion before he has even kicked a ball in a PL match yet. The team isn't even complete yet either, so factors like the potential arrival of a player who will put through balls or knock-downs on a plate for him are ignored completely, as well as the consideration that there are several new players in the team, including him, who will need some time to understand how their team mates play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Sky Sports News HQ @SkySportsNewsHQ 6m Celtic sign defender Jason Denayer from MAN City on season-long loan - more details on #SSN Preparing for the departure of VV-D?? Pretty sure Koeman doesn't rate him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berudenot2 Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 And I think this is what I really don't understand about certain posters on this forum, what is the point in voicing your opinion if you don't really think it? You seem to be someone who does this Batman, just tell me why? Is it an attention thing? Surely that is the definition of a troll, interesting to know you troll people in pubs too though. There have definitely been posters who have stated categorically in their opinion that Pelle aint good enough. Concerns are one thing, I'm concerned. It's sheer arrogance to decide the bloke isn't good enough based on one watched performance or in some cases it seems just a secondhand match report from another fan! Right I'll stop wittering now, it's starting to sound like I'm whining :roll eyes: Just woke up, read a few 'opinions' and wanted to rant about it and this is the wrong thread. Turks pretty much nailed the reality of it. It's taken me some considerable time to realise that I know jack sh1t about players potential and I've been watching the game for over 40 years. It hasn't stopped me being an opiniated ***t who suffers from football tourettes on match day though. PS I'm also 28 on the BMI scale so properly qualified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 It would seem we are trying just to sign defenders. I have seen nothing in Pelle to think he can cut it in the PL, we DESPERATELY need at least another if not two strikers as I can't see who is going to score any goals. If you come on here you might expect 'fans' to express an opinion on a player from time to time amongst the trolling and bickering. I'm with didcot - pelle will struggle this year who and how many? There's a couple for you over the last page or so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Im not calling his ability either way, I just want people to give all our new players a chance before condemning their ability, and that doesn't just mean one game against Liverpool. Not just the new players but the management team as well. As they say, Rome wasnt bulit in a day and Koeman has a massive task in rebuilding the club. Never agreed with the stupid transfer window system but we are stuck with it and it will take a few before he gets things as he wants I would imagine. You just know that if Tottenham get off to a flying start and we splutter the Board will get all kinds of flak for employing Ron. He, and the team, need time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Not just the new players but the management team as well. As they say, Rome wasnt bulit in a day and Koeman has a massive task in rebuilding the club. Never agreed with the stupid transfer window system but we are stuck with it and it will take a few before he gets things as he wants I would imagine. You just know that if Tottenham get off to a flying start and we splutter the Board will get all kinds of flak for employing Ron. He, and the team, need time. Just imagine how awful it would be if transfers went on all season, no one would ever settle and rumours would upset everyone all the time. At least we have an end to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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